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Replying To Ratoath Royal:  "So current form won't win a championship but past Keegan cup wins are somehow a better indicator?????
ratlag gave his opinion on who he thought would win the Keegan Cup. That seems to have upset you for some reason."
Upset about a comment on a forum-get real! Current form will not win a championship as I have already stated, but it will keep you in championship. Last years winners had not won any of their first two matches- current form!, but they got out of their group relying on another team to be beaten and won the Keeghan cup. Their form was good in knockout stages (although a bit lucky against Kells near end of match) and they were probably at their best in the final winning well. Senior championships are difficult to win but their are 'experts' who think otherwise and two in a row is even more difficult. Of course all teams who compete have a chance, but some have little to no chance of winning just as all teams have a chance of winning AI.

Sunzero: I agree that Don/Ash could have won by 5 or 6, however Tones were missing possibly their two best forwards as the second Ward only came on with a 10minutes to go and made a difference with his goal.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 27/07/2017 12:15:35    2024397

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Replying To 6Laps:  "Yes Dunshaughlins shooting and free taking was bad against Na Fianna. If they sort the frees out and start scoring more from play they might see the quarter finals this year."
Yes I agree they will definitely see the quarter finals
From the stands!!!!

head4dblackspot (Meath) - Posts: 513 - 27/07/2017 14:33:06    2024487

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Replying To browncows:  "Upset about a comment on a forum-get real! Current form will not win a championship as I have already stated, but it will keep you in championship. Last years winners had not won any of their first two matches- current form!, but they got out of their group relying on another team to be beaten and won the Keeghan cup. Their form was good in knockout stages (although a bit lucky against Kells near end of match) and they were probably at their best in the final winning well. Senior championships are difficult to win but their are 'experts' who think otherwise and two in a row is even more difficult. Of course all teams who compete have a chance, but some have little to no chance of winning just as all teams have a chance of winning AI.

Sunzero: I agree that Don/Ash could have won by 5 or 6, however Tones were missing possibly their two best forwards as the second Ward only came on with a 10minutes to go and made a difference with his goal."
think ash lack that killer instinct to win it. tormey and deegan big losses.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 27/07/2017 14:55:05    2024492

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Replying To head4dblackspot:  "Yes I agree they will definitely see the quarter finals
From the stands!!!!"
Only time will tell.

6Laps (Meath) - Posts: 27 - 27/07/2017 14:55:25    2024494

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "think ash lack that killer instinct to win it. tormey and deegan big losses."
Think Colgan is a bigger lose than Deegan. He was hardy and could fit in anywhere. Former inter county player Vs former inter county players son, I know I rather have a former inter county player.

Deegan was flattered to decieve in my own opinion.

juicy (Meath) - Posts: 399 - 27/07/2017 15:23:40    2024513

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Replying To juicy:  "Think Colgan is a bigger lose than Deegan. He was hardy and could fit in anywhere. Former inter county player Vs former inter county players son, I know I rather have a former inter county player.

Deegan was flattered to decieve in my own opinion."
I'd agree to a point, Colgan is the bigger loss definitely, as you said he could slot in anywhere. While Deegan wasn't a prolific and some make him out to be he was always good for about 3-4 points a game in general, him combined with Tormey injuring himself means that Deegans loss is even more noticeable.

ratlag (Meath) - Posts: 557 - 27/07/2017 15:58:16    2024533

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Replying To juicy:  "Think Colgan is a bigger lose than Deegan. He was hardy and could fit in anywhere. Former inter county player Vs former inter county players son, I know I rather have a former inter county player.

Deegan was flattered to decieve in my own opinion."
yeah him too! no club team can lose 3 players like that in one season.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 27/07/2017 18:02:06    2024597

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Replying To ratlag:  "I'd agree to a point, Colgan is the bigger loss definitely, as you said he could slot in anywhere. While Deegan wasn't a prolific and some make him out to be he was always good for about 3-4 points a game in general, him combined with Tormey injuring himself means that Deegans loss is even more noticeable."
yeah spot on really.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 27/07/2017 18:02:51    2024598

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Don/Ash have been a bit unlucky over the last few years as the have been very consistent, at or near the top, and probably could /should have won a title -experience beat them. Now they have lost quite a few players (not thru injury) which will make winning a title more difficult. They are still a very formidable outfit and are difficult to beat.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 27/07/2017 18:21:34    2024604

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Replying To head4dblackspot:  "Yes I agree they will definitely see the quarter finals
From the stands!!!!"
Did you see Dunshaughlin in either championship game against Dunboyne or Na Fianna?

VernonSmith (Meath) - Posts: 112 - 28/07/2017 09:46:26    2024772

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Replying To VernonSmith:  "Did you see Dunshaughlin in either championship game against Dunboyne or Na Fianna?"
I see both games and Dunshaughlin hit the cross bar in both games, goals in either games would have won them the game for them. so they won't be far away.

6Laps (Meath) - Posts: 27 - 28/07/2017 10:07:06    2024784

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Replying To VernonSmith:  "Did you see Dunshaughlin in either championship game against Dunboyne or Na Fianna?"
Yes I seen both games and a lot of league games
Dunboyne won game in first round in second gear and Dunshaughlin as I have said were steeped in luck to get a draw against Na Fianna with a Hail Mary effort with last kick of game
Skyrne will have too much up front for dunshaughlin and Pats will over power a small dunshaughlin team and as for ratoath well we all know what will happen there.
That's why I think dunshaughlin will struggle to get any mor points, at best maybe another draw somewhere

head4dblackspot (Meath) - Posts: 513 - 28/07/2017 14:20:25    2024894

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Replying To head4dblackspot:  "Yes I seen both games and a lot of league games
Dunboyne won game in first round in second gear and Dunshaughlin as I have said were steeped in luck to get a draw against Na Fianna with a Hail Mary effort with last kick of game
Skyrne will have too much up front for dunshaughlin and Pats will over power a small dunshaughlin team and as for ratoath well we all know what will happen there.
That's why I think dunshaughlin will struggle to get any mor points, at best maybe another draw somewhere"
Small Dunshaughlin? What opticians do you go to? King, Crimmins, Maloney, Murphy, Ahern, Toolan, young Kealy, are they small. Dunshauglin led from the 5th minute to the 58th against Na Fianna. I think it was Na Fianna who were lucky to get a draw. In round one against Dunboyne, Dunboyne scored their goal in injury time to make it a 5 point game. 5 minutes from the end, Dunshaughlin hit the bar. As most posters will know, league form goes out the window in championship. But you're right. Ratoath will walk all over Dunshaughlin due to their sheer size and 14 county men they can call on

VernonSmith (Meath) - Posts: 112 - 28/07/2017 15:52:59    2024972

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Replying To VernonSmith:  "Small Dunshaughlin? What opticians do you go to? King, Crimmins, Maloney, Murphy, Ahern, Toolan, young Kealy, are they small. Dunshauglin led from the 5th minute to the 58th against Na Fianna. I think it was Na Fianna who were lucky to get a draw. In round one against Dunboyne, Dunboyne scored their goal in injury time to make it a 5 point game. 5 minutes from the end, Dunshaughlin hit the bar. As most posters will know, league form goes out the window in championship. But you're right. Ratoath will walk all over Dunshaughlin due to their sheer size and 14 county men they can call on"
Jees Vernon abit touchy there
The BIG men you are talking about were good footballers in there day (albeit they didn't win anything) but definitely in their twilight year in football terms and if you are are hanging your hat on a young lad to win games that just backs up my opinion, young Kealy was your best forward against Na Fianna as Toolin and Dwyer Hardly got a kick.
Ratoath will beat Dunshaughlin not because they have 14 county players but because they are better and Skyrne have a very solid team with dangerous forwards who in MY opinion will pick up points against Dunshaughlin also Pats game will be a dog fight that pats are better equipped to win, all of this time not my thoughts, but the overriding thing here is that Dunshaughlin are a team in decline and that is evident over the past few years where they barely stay up in league and have struggled in championship

head4dblackspot (Meath) - Posts: 513 - 28/07/2017 18:22:44    2025068

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MeThinks it be hard to look past Simonstown

noelpconnon (Cavan) - Posts: 209 - 29/07/2017 10:33:09    2025259

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Replying To head4dblackspot:  "Jees Vernon abit touchy there
The BIG men you are talking about were good footballers in there day (albeit they didn't win anything) but definitely in their twilight year in football terms and if you are are hanging your hat on a young lad to win games that just backs up my opinion, young Kealy was your best forward against Na Fianna as Toolin and Dwyer Hardly got a kick.
Ratoath will beat Dunshaughlin not because they have 14 county players but because they are better and Skyrne have a very solid team with dangerous forwards who in MY opinion will pick up points against Dunshaughlin also Pats game will be a dog fight that pats are better equipped to win, all of this time not my thoughts, but the overriding thing here is that Dunshaughlin are a team in decline and that is evident over the past few years where they barely stay up in league and have struggled in championship"
Barely stay up in the league in recent years? They won it two years ago. I believe Maloney won a Leinster Club Championship and a couple of Keegan Cups, plus a couple of leagues and a couple of Feis Cups? Murphy and Toolan are mid 20's. Ahern isn't 30 yet. They only ones you could say are near the end of the footballing career are Maloney, King, Crimmins and Dwyer as they are plus 30. There are a lot worse Senior teams out there and Skryne and Pats are certainly two

VernonSmith (Meath) - Posts: 112 - 31/07/2017 08:40:17    2026382

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Replying To VernonSmith:  "Barely stay up in the league in recent years? They won it two years ago. I believe Maloney won a Leinster Club Championship and a couple of Keegan Cups, plus a couple of leagues and a couple of Feis Cups? Murphy and Toolan are mid 20's. Ahern isn't 30 yet. They only ones you could say are near the end of the footballing career are Maloney, King, Crimmins and Dwyer as they are plus 30. There are a lot worse Senior teams out there and Skryne and Pats are certainly two"
We'll see
Time will tell

head4dblackspot (Meath) - Posts: 513 - 31/07/2017 10:24:23    2026480

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I would hate to see Dunshaughlin in trouble, but they won't be they'll be fine. Think half the championship has been tipped up for relegation on here at some point. Wouldn't like to see Skryne struggle either but again I don't think they will. If its on the basis of the Dunboyne game, we beat Ratoath by more at the same stage last year for some perspective.

On the Ashbourne points with losing Colgan and Deegan, people thought we would go away after losing Geaney, as good an import I can remember in the county, but our senior team are arguably stronger since, a mixture of more players coming through and other lads standing up to shine. Ashbourne have bucket loads there, they'll be far less effected than others may have been.

On a side note, it would be so much handier if everyone had their own club and allegiances visible when posting in threads like this, would make it much easier to distinguish between genuine views and agenda rubbish.

Also has the team of the week/round gone from the site? Pity if so, used to look forward to that.

dunboynelad (Meath) - Posts: 227 - 31/07/2017 20:38:26    2026919

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Replying To dunboynelad:  "I would hate to see Dunshaughlin in trouble, but they won't be they'll be fine. Think half the championship has been tipped up for relegation on here at some point. Wouldn't like to see Skryne struggle either but again I don't think they will. If its on the basis of the Dunboyne game, we beat Ratoath by more at the same stage last year for some perspective.

On the Ashbourne points with losing Colgan and Deegan, people thought we would go away after losing Geaney, as good an import I can remember in the county, but our senior team are arguably stronger since, a mixture of more players coming through and other lads standing up to shine. Ashbourne have bucket loads there, they'll be far less effected than others may have been.

On a side note, it would be so much handier if everyone had their own club and allegiances visible when posting in threads like this, would make it much easier to distinguish between genuine views and agenda rubbish.

Also has the team of the week/round gone from the site? Pity if so, used to look forward to that."
Dunboyne lad you forget that you imported 3 other lads from across the border so that would lead to you being one of the top teams so dont be saying that you have all homegrown players.

on a separate note i wouldnt look beyond dunboyne , simonstown ratoath or summerhill

dnewlad (Meath) - Posts: 137 - 31/07/2017 21:47:17    2026985

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What has happened the mighty O'Mahonys?

Barney123 (Meath) - Posts: 676 - 07/08/2017 20:54:24    2030601

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