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Replying To ziggy32001: "would anyone bring in james conlon/daire rowe in 2018?" on the panel for sure but be dunno how close they'll get to starting.
We really lacked an elite forward on Saturday night that we could kick it into and he'd win it and turn and score. Thought Newman and Lenihan might've been left inside and work together but wasn't tried.
Think there'll be a separating of the chaff from the wheat over the club championship as there's spots available within the squad and the starting team.
I'd say right now the only guaranteed starters next year (barring injury or dramatic drop in form) are Keoghan, McGill, Menton and Reilly. For me every other spot is wide open. I think there's another core of Burke, Harnan, Conlon, Newman and Lenihan that'll likely start but could be out of the team depending on performances of themselves and others. Cillian O'Sullivan needs a serious off season and working on playing for the team more. He isn't an no 11 as he doesn't work hard enough. On his day he can light it up but in the last two games i didn't see it from him, and he's as likely to get you a goal (as happened on Saturday) as turn the ball over and cost ye a goal (happened v Sligo). I've been critical of BIggy but he was decent on saturday night
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Replying To ziggy32001: "would anyone bring in james conlon/daire rowe in 2018?" Don't know enough about them TBH. Paddy Kennelly ?
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Replying To ziggy32001: "by the way mcgill was outstanding the last day and had a consistent year imo. also the other ratoath lad brian power is underrated as a 6. he may not be flashy,but he understands the role." Do you think he would get on any of the teams we met this year ( Kildare Sligo or Donegal ) at no 6 ?
While I think of it do you think any Meath player will be nominated for an all star this year ( nominated even ). ?
noluso (Meath) - Posts: 164 - 10/07/2017 18:08:36
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I think we have a list of certain players.
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2. Burke
3. McGill
4. Keoghan
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7. Forde
8. Menton
9. Jones
10. Biggie (capt)
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12 Conlon
13. McMahon
14 lenihane (even just for frees)
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The rest are up for grabs in my opinion. Not sure about Rooney straight back i n, Newman had zero impact on sat and I'm afraid he may have his best days behind him, power could be a 6 yet. ROC could slot into maybe 11, looks like the type of player to do so. If I'm honest O'Sullivan has been the disappointment for me this year, now maybe too much was expected of him by me, but I think he is better than he has shown, Harman is a worker no doubt but made errors too often, but still deserves a chance, if as said Jones is gone then maybe Rooney could come in , we need a new gk, I'm sorry paddy but for me you drop to number 16,
All spots up for grabs, I would use obc to experiment
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 10/07/2017 18:56:25
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Replying To noluso: "Do you think he would get on any of the teams we met this year ( Kildare Sligo or Donegal ) at no 6 ?
While I think of it do you think any Meath player will be nominated for an all star this year ( nominated even ). ?" It's irrelevant whether he would get on the Kildare, Sligo or donegal teams at no. 6. He's not trying to get into the Kildare, Sligo or donegal teams, at 6 or anywhere else.
A more relevant question is whether he is good enough to be on the Meath team at no. 6. We are not well stocked with potential centre half backs. The other alternatives (keoghan, menton, Conlan) are needed elsewhere, because we are not well stocked at corner back or midfield either.
Your other question about the all-stars is both silly and irrelevant, but sadly pretty typical of most of what you post.
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Replying To anfearbeag: "It's irrelevant whether he would get on the Kildare, Sligo or donegal teams at no. 6. He's not trying to get into the Kildare, Sligo or donegal teams, at 6 or anywhere else.
A more relevant question is whether he is good enough to be on the Meath team at no. 6. We are not well stocked with potential centre half backs. The other alternatives (keoghan, menton, Conlan) are needed elsewhere, because we are not well stocked at corner back or midfield either.
Your other question about the all-stars is both silly and irrelevant, but sadly pretty typical of most of what you post." well said and saved me a post..
ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 10/07/2017 20:21:26
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Replying To anfearbeag: "It's irrelevant whether he would get on the Kildare, Sligo or donegal teams at no. 6. He's not trying to get into the Kildare, Sligo or donegal teams, at 6 or anywhere else.
A more relevant question is whether he is good enough to be on the Meath team at no. 6. We are not well stocked with potential centre half backs. The other alternatives (keoghan, menton, Conlan) are needed elsewhere, because we are not well stocked at corner back or midfield either.
Your other question about the all-stars is both silly and irrelevant, but sadly pretty typical of most of what you post." Well put anfearbeag.
I can put up with pessimistic posters, they are entitled to a view and to air it. But some of the stiff here lately seems to be almost trolling players and management.
This poster also seems to have an unhealthy affection towards kildare. The type of poster who was very prominent during kildares last golden era of 09-11 where they landed huge amounts of silverware and even pioneered the teem, "top 8" team as though it was a mark of achievement to be considered such a thing.
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Brian power is a nailed in no6 next year
With another year under Andy his fitness will be much better and he will improve as a player
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Best way to discuss this is to break it down by position and suggest new players:
Goalkeepers- time to get rid of POR. He's had his chances and is just far too inconsistent and immature. 2 points up against Donegal and he should be experienced enough to do the right things. He didn't and his errors directly led to 2 points. This on top of a lot of other nonsense.
Best kick out on meath in my opinion is T Dalton of Blackhall and he's a brilliant shot stopper.
Defence:
Full back line: Daragh Smyth of O Mahoneys is an excellent defender, tough, fast and sticky and is have him tried out at full back. S Carty of Dunderry is a similar player and I'd like to see him given a go. D Dalton is still a class act and was superb until his injuries. He's back in action now. C Lenehan of Skyrne is a class act and should be welcomed back also, anyone who sees Skryne play regularly will agree.
I think that Biggy should be triedas a wing back now in way that Lee Keegan does. He gets lost in the forwards and is not a good footballer with his back to goal. I think that Cillian O Sullivan could also do it a move to wing back.
Midfield
Time to get Adam Flanagan more involved, a magnificent fielder and would be great at winning marks.
D Tobin should be tried here also as an option as it's his best position.
Forwards:
Need to do everything to get McKeever of Simonstown involved. He's a class act. We potentially could have an excellent ff line with likes of him, Lenehan, Newman, Mattimoe, T O Reilly, McMahon, Rowe, Conlon, Shane Walsh. I like the look of Robbie McCarthy as a big man option up front. V effective for Dunboyne and I'm sure would play for Meath.
In half forwards I'd like to see David Larkin brought back in. Mickey Newman might be better at center forward also but he needs to get his ankle sorted first.
The main thing I wanna see though is that we have a system that is exciting and thrilling and involves kick passing and a well trained defense. This season was very messy with chopping and changing systems between extreme defense and extreme attacking.
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Replying To noluso: "Do you think he would get on any of the teams we met this year ( Kildare Sligo or Donegal ) at no 6 ?
While I think of it do you think any Meath player will be nominated for an all star this year ( nominated even ). ?" He's a Meath man and plays for Meath whether or not he would get on any other team is irrelevant and somewhat insulting to his performance Saturday night
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Replying To anfearbeag: "It's irrelevant whether he would get on the Kildare, Sligo or donegal teams at no. 6. He's not trying to get into the Kildare, Sligo or donegal teams, at 6 or anywhere else.
A more relevant question is whether he is good enough to be on the Meath team at no. 6. We are not well stocked with potential centre half backs. The other alternatives (keoghan, menton, Conlan) are needed elsewhere, because we are not well stocked at corner back or midfield either.
Your other question about the all-stars is both silly and irrelevant, but sadly pretty typical of most of what you post." Well said sir. We may differ on a few things but this guy and a couple of others seem to be more concerned with Kildare and anti Meath management or players .
Like I said we may at times differ on opinions but we want what's best for Meath always
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Replying To Jinxie: "Well put anfearbeag.
I can put up with pessimistic posters, they are entitled to a view and to air it. But some of the stiff here lately seems to be almost trolling players and management.
This poster also seems to have an unhealthy affection towards kildare. The type of poster who was very prominent during kildares last golden era of 09-11 where they landed huge amounts of silverware and even pioneered the teem, "top 8" team as though it was a mark of achievement to be considered such a thing." Absolutely agree.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 10/07/2017 23:02:43
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Replying To head4dblackspot: "Brian power is a nailed in no6 next year
With another year under Andy his fitness will be much better and he will improve as a player" You could be right, and I so hope you are, as 6 is position we have had problems with in the past. Actually thinking about it I think he could be very much a excellent 6.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 10/07/2017 23:06:09
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Replying To royaldunne: "I think we have a list of certain players.
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2. Burke
3. McGill
4. Keoghan
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8. Menton
9. Jones
10. Biggie (capt)
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13. McMahon
14 lenihane (even just for frees)
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The rest are up for grabs in my opinion. Not sure about Rooney straight back i n, Newman had zero impact on sat and I'm afraid he may have his best days behind him, power could be a 6 yet. ROC could slot into maybe 11, looks like the type of player to do so. If I'm honest O'Sullivan has been the disappointment for me this year, now maybe too much was expected of him by me, but I think he is better than he has shown, Harman is a worker no doubt but made errors too often, but still deserves a chance, if as said Jones is gone then maybe Rooney could come in , we need a new gk, I'm sorry paddy but for me you drop to number 16,
All spots up for grabs, I would use obc to experiment" Dont think Graham should be captain next year ! Personally think it puts shackle's on him !! Let him do what he does best without the pressure of captaincy..its not easy captaining your county a lot of pressure
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A lot of interesting suggestions on this! Not sure if many of them are up to it at this level though. Don't think anyone has mentioned Robin Clarke who was full back for the u21s this year. Looks to have something about him
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Replying To grahamc9897: "I'm not biggys biggest fan but wouldn't drop him ??" I all ready explained above
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A team I wouldn't mind seeing for the opening round of the league next year if they're all
available.
1. Robbie Burlingham
2. Donal Keogan
3. Conor McGill
4. Mickey Burke
5. Pauric Harnan
6. Brian Power
7. Bryan Menton
8. Brían Conlon
9. Ronan Jones (if he's about)
10. James McEntee
11. Ruairí Ó Coileain
12. Paddy Kennelly
13. Cillian O'Sullivan
14. Graham Reilly
15. Donal Lenihan
Others who I think will be in the mix are Shane's McEntee, Alan Forde (should he be back by then), Harry Rooney (if he's home and available), Daire Rowe, Sean Reilly (Moylagh), Dan O'Neill (Wolfe Tones), Thomas O'Reilly (Wolfe Tones), Caolach Halligan (Rathkenny).
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Replying To bobkarlgees: "I all ready explained above" I know.. But I dont agree with you !! He's inconsistent but on form can be great
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Replying To jackhackett: "A team I wouldn't mind seeing for the opening round of the league next year if they're all
available.
1. Robbie Burlingham
2. Donal Keogan
3. Conor McGill
4. Mickey Burke
5. Pauric Harnan
6. Brian Power
7. Bryan Menton
8. Brían Conlon
9. Ronan Jones (if he's about)
10. James McEntee
11. Ruairí Ó Coileain
12. Paddy Kennelly
13. Cillian O'Sullivan
14. Graham Reilly
15. Donal Lenihan
Others who I think will be in the mix are Shane's McEntee, Alan Forde (should he be back by then), Harry Rooney (if he's home and available), Daire Rowe, Sean Reilly (Moylagh), Dan O'Neill (Wolfe Tones), Thomas O'Reilly (Wolfe Tones), Caolach Halligan (Rathkenny)." With the exception of Shane mc entee i would agree with you. Robin Clarke is worth a look also. Very consistent with 21's this year
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I really think they need to look at players from North Meath as at the moment it's all the usual clubs that players are been chosen from which is no way right, as there is plenty of players from the smaller clubs well up to the standard of county material.
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