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Replying To ziggy32001:  "lads on their feet? we lost by a point. we didn't falter in the last 15mins at all.."
Yes clearly lads were out on their feet in the closing stages as can be easily identified from watching the game back on TV Sunday night. If you look closely at ROC's attempted 'tackle' on McHugh before hd offloaded the ball to McBearty then you would be of the same opinion. To not fully utilise our bench in the last few miutes was bizarre especially in that heat.

RoylerKing (Meath) - Posts: 809 - 11/07/2017 10:20:33    2014764

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Replying To RoylerKing:  "This year in the SFC we defeated a very poor Louth team, were hammered by Kildare twice, struggled past an average Sligo and while we did improve considerably against Donegal we still lost. Also, we failed to gain promotion from Division 2 so therefore I feel we made little or no progress this year.
A big failing which has been highlighted by both Bernard Flynn and Graham Geraghty amongst numerous others was Andy's failure to use his full quota of subs last Saturday when lads were clearly out on their feet. If our previous manager did this he would have been slaughtered."
I disagree with the notion that no progress was made this year. The problem with a lot of posters on here is that they still do not realise how little talent Andy has at his disposal. At least Andy has the team fit this year. There were no second half fade outs like the last few years. I heard that Andy's fitness trainer John Coughlan was shocked at the poor fitness levels of most of the players when they were tested at the start of the year.
The positives were a few good young players coming into the team like Ruairi O Cuileann, who will improve as he gets stronger, Brian Conlon and Ronan Jones (pity he will be gone for 2 years). Also T O Reilly could be a good addition next year. Unfortunately for Andy there seems to be very little talent coming through (not Andy's fault).
You can see from Roscommon at the weekend the importance of having talent coming through from good underage structures. They lost 10 players and had the talent to replace them and win a provincial title.
Finally, the one criticism I would have of Andy this year is the fiasco with Joe Sheridan at 16. How can we expect to blood a replacement for POR if he has to be number 3 keeper behind an outfield player who never played in goal.

subzero (Meath) - Posts: 69 - 11/07/2017 10:28:10    2014769

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Replying To subzero:  "I disagree with the notion that no progress was made this year. The problem with a lot of posters on here is that they still do not realise how little talent Andy has at his disposal. At least Andy has the team fit this year. There were no second half fade outs like the last few years. I heard that Andy's fitness trainer John Coughlan was shocked at the poor fitness levels of most of the players when they were tested at the start of the year.
The positives were a few good young players coming into the team like Ruairi O Cuileann, who will improve as he gets stronger, Brian Conlon and Ronan Jones (pity he will be gone for 2 years). Also T O Reilly could be a good addition next year. Unfortunately for Andy there seems to be very little talent coming through (not Andy's fault).
You can see from Roscommon at the weekend the importance of having talent coming through from good underage structures. They lost 10 players and had the talent to replace them and win a provincial title.
Finally, the one criticism I would have of Andy this year is the fiasco with Joe Sheridan at 16. How can we expect to blood a replacement for POR if he has to be number 3 keeper behind an outfield player who never played in goal."
Subzero.........Agree 100%

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1211 - 11/07/2017 11:40:48    2014810

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2016
Meath 1-10 - 0-8 Armagh cant really remember this one.
Fermanagh 0-10 - 0-6 Meath Poor result even tough we got a harsh red
Meath 1-13 - 1-20 Cavan Meath where 8 points up and then came the complete
Galway 0-15 - 1-12 Meath meath where 9 points up another collapse manged to scrape a draw
Meath 1-11 - 1-17 Tyrone Never looking like troubling Tyrone
Derry 2-12 - 2-12 Meath a descent result away to Derry but in reelection Derry are a poor side
Laois 1-9 - 0-18 Meath best result of the year relegation battle came back well after been 7 points down

Beat Louth
Complete intation against Dublin.
Played Derry 7 points up another complete collapse Meath now at lowest for years.

2017
Meath 0-16 - 3-17 Kildare Beaten well bad start to leauge Meath under pressure
Meath 3-15 - 0-09 Derry Good win Meath back on track
Derry 1-07 - 1-15 Down surprise loss to a poor side Meath now under more pressure
Cork 0-18 - 1-15 Meath good come back in second half but should have one this one
Meath 3-15 - 0-6 Fermanagh did well aginast a poor enough side
Clare 1-13 - 3-19 Cork great win against a up and coming side.

Just missed out on promotion. So no collapsing in the second half.actually its now turned around and we are finishing stronger in the second half. And giving its a first year in charge with a for a new manager its not bad. Also we where missing Harry Rooney arguable our best player for 2016. And even more importantly we had go scrambling for midfielders and train Menton and tryed togher Jones too. So it was a problem area for us but one we are starting to come to grips with.

Good win against Louth even though they where poor we again finished strong in second half.
Complete disaster against Kildare worst loss in awhile but we need wait and see how good kildare are or not
Scraped a win of Sligo first win in qualifiers since 2011 after a heavy defeat we reorganized our defense and showed we can adapt to play differently.
Donegal poor enough game but show sings steel again finished strong second half.
Playing a regular div 1 side was always going to be a challenge but we could have sneaked that one.

So over all small signs we are heading the right direction for me.

bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 11/07/2017 11:44:05    2014819

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Replying To Reco:  "We have 40 lads at training the manager picks his sub's uses 2 on hot evening in fairness after putting in a major shift.I would question that too.trust is major thing in sports especially Gaelic games honesty integrity. The other sub's have to b thinking what going on here.reilly in the last day tother etc.6 months training then that b hard sell next year."
who would you bring on?

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 11/07/2017 12:02:05    2014835

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Replying To bobkarlgees:  "2016
Meath 1-10 - 0-8 Armagh cant really remember this one.
Fermanagh 0-10 - 0-6 Meath Poor result even tough we got a harsh red
Meath 1-13 - 1-20 Cavan Meath where 8 points up and then came the complete
Galway 0-15 - 1-12 Meath meath where 9 points up another collapse manged to scrape a draw
Meath 1-11 - 1-17 Tyrone Never looking like troubling Tyrone
Derry 2-12 - 2-12 Meath a descent result away to Derry but in reelection Derry are a poor side
Laois 1-9 - 0-18 Meath best result of the year relegation battle came back well after been 7 points down

Beat Louth
Complete intation against Dublin.
Played Derry 7 points up another complete collapse Meath now at lowest for years.

2017
Meath 0-16 - 3-17 Kildare Beaten well bad start to leauge Meath under pressure
Meath 3-15 - 0-09 Derry Good win Meath back on track
Derry 1-07 - 1-15 Down surprise loss to a poor side Meath now under more pressure
Cork 0-18 - 1-15 Meath good come back in second half but should have one this one
Meath 3-15 - 0-6 Fermanagh did well aginast a poor enough side
Clare 1-13 - 3-19 Cork great win against a up and coming side.

Just missed out on promotion. So no collapsing in the second half.actually its now turned around and we are finishing stronger in the second half. And giving its a first year in charge with a for a new manager its not bad. Also we where missing Harry Rooney arguable our best player for 2016. And even more importantly we had go scrambling for midfielders and train Menton and tryed togher Jones too. So it was a problem area for us but one we are starting to come to grips with.

Good win against Louth even though they where poor we again finished strong in second half.
Complete disaster against Kildare worst loss in awhile but we need wait and see how good kildare are or not
Scraped a win of Sligo first win in qualifiers since 2011 after a heavy defeat we reorganized our defense and showed we can adapt to play differently.
Donegal poor enough game but show sings steel again finished strong second half.
Playing a regular div 1 side was always going to be a challenge but we could have sneaked that one.

So over all small signs we are heading the right direction for me."
Rooney is not coming back next year and where are the signs we are going no where ontill we have some good players as it stands not one meath player wouldmake the dublin team or bench thats nobodys fault its just a fact when we have top class players at least 5 we wont be winning anything look at cavan and roscomonn division 1 does not work miricials we would be hammered by dublin monaghan kerry .cavan went up last year snd wer beaten by tipp went we get players like giles fay murphy big mac and gg then we will compete the standard in meath is just not there we will just have to keep plugging away and show up for matches ontill good players are available

matthematx (Meath) - Posts: 177 - 11/07/2017 12:23:51    2014853

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Replying To matthematx:  "Rooney is not coming back next year and where are the signs we are going no where ontill we have some good players as it stands not one meath player wouldmake the dublin team or bench thats nobodys fault its just a fact when we have top class players at least 5 we wont be winning anything look at cavan and roscomonn division 1 does not work miricials we would be hammered by dublin monaghan kerry .cavan went up last year snd wer beaten by tipp went we get players like giles fay murphy big mac and gg then we will compete the standard in meath is just not there we will just have to keep plugging away and show up for matches ontill good players are available"
Jesus here we go again making stupid statements about our players not being good enough for other teams, lads will ye give up on that load of b*****ks, we are trying to develop players for a Meath team not any other county. And we need promotion, we need to play teams like Donegal, Mayo, Dublin etc on a more regular basis or we will never we fully develop our players to their full potential, sure why don't we all sit at home and twiddle or thumbs for god knows how long until we discover these special players, I might remind you that players of the calibre of Lyons, O'Rourke, Cassels, McEntee etc suffered the indignity of defeats to the likes of Longford and Wexford before success came their way, they were lambasted in the same way some of the current players were and in 1985 when Laois cut them to pieces in Tullamore anyone who said we would win Leinster a year later would have been locked up, those players were thought to be not good enough just as many think today's players aren't good enough. Well I am not part of that school of thought and whilst I am not a blind optimist either I believe these players and management can have success, and I won't be sitting at home waiting for it to happen either.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 11/07/2017 13:15:32    2014899

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Replying To Richieq:  "Jesus here we go again making stupid statements about our players not being good enough for other teams, lads will ye give up on that load of b*****ks, we are trying to develop players for a Meath team not any other county. And we need promotion, we need to play teams like Donegal, Mayo, Dublin etc on a more regular basis or we will never we fully develop our players to their full potential, sure why don't we all sit at home and twiddle or thumbs for god knows how long until we discover these special players, I might remind you that players of the calibre of Lyons, O'Rourke, Cassels, McEntee etc suffered the indignity of defeats to the likes of Longford and Wexford before success came their way, they were lambasted in the same way some of the current players were and in 1985 when Laois cut them to pieces in Tullamore anyone who said we would win Leinster a year later would have been locked up, those players were thought to be not good enough just as many think today's players aren't good enough. Well I am not part of that school of thought and whilst I am not a blind optimist either I believe these players and management can have success, and I won't be sitting at home waiting for it to happen either."
Sorry Richieq, matthematix is dead right. We don't have the players at the moment.
Look at all of the top counties that are consistently challenging for provincial and AI honors. They have all had strong minor and U21 teams recently. In the last few years we haven't. We haven't won an U21 Leinster since 2001.
Players just don't develop as adults playing other D1 teams. They develop by playing in big games when they are 18, 19 and 20.
The issue is that Meath football is uncompetitive on the national (and increasingly regional) stage. The structures are beginning to be put into place but we are way behind the likes of Kildare never mind Dublin. A new manager or trainer doesn't change that, in fact it may set the project back.

Could we be doing better than we can with the players we have, maybe. I think Andy and his team will learn a lot from the mistakes they've made this year. With a bit more cuteness on the line we'd have beaten Donegal but that shouldn't be the size of our ambition.

pauk123 (USA) - Posts: 189 - 11/07/2017 15:04:58    2014997

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "who would you bring on?"
From wot was there brought on Flanagan to mark and harrass Murphy Douglas prob to pick up McHugh might have starved those two of ball.conlan had great game but was visibly tired.o cealliin was the same showed when McHugh took ball from him for goal.put biggy closer to goal cause was getting hard to get rid of his man who scored a point.reilly for bit more strength winning a ball took off s mcentee for him fresh legs were needed my view entitled to it.

Reco (Meath) - Posts: 419 - 11/07/2017 15:06:51    2015000

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Replying To subzero:  "I disagree with the notion that no progress was made this year. The problem with a lot of posters on here is that they still do not realise how little talent Andy has at his disposal. At least Andy has the team fit this year. There were no second half fade outs like the last few years. I heard that Andy's fitness trainer John Coughlan was shocked at the poor fitness levels of most of the players when they were tested at the start of the year.
The positives were a few good young players coming into the team like Ruairi O Cuileann, who will improve as he gets stronger, Brian Conlon and Ronan Jones (pity he will be gone for 2 years). Also T O Reilly could be a good addition next year. Unfortunately for Andy there seems to be very little talent coming through (not Andy's fault).
You can see from Roscommon at the weekend the importance of having talent coming through from good underage structures. They lost 10 players and had the talent to replace them and win a provincial title.
Finally, the one criticism I would have of Andy this year is the fiasco with Joe Sheridan at 16. How can we expect to blood a replacement for POR if he has to be number 3 keeper behind an outfield player who never played in goal."
It seems in all counties that new management come in the first thing you hear from the trainer is shocked at fitness levels.is this team defined by fitness or how good and organized we are of course fitness is part of this.but that's like the old clubman with no real clue ahh share they weren't fit.b...l.ox to that.who are these boys trying to cod the same old same old,its unreal set up is all you hear GPS body MAS running technique.?
hunger, passion, ball winners, pride, skill set, game plan that suits our players.that b my definition of Meath football let's hope for better years ahead.

Reco (Meath) - Posts: 419 - 11/07/2017 15:19:13    2015009

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Replying To pauk123:  "Sorry Richieq, matthematix is dead right. We don't have the players at the moment.
Look at all of the top counties that are consistently challenging for provincial and AI honors. They have all had strong minor and U21 teams recently. In the last few years we haven't. We haven't won an U21 Leinster since 2001.
Players just don't develop as adults playing other D1 teams. They develop by playing in big games when they are 18, 19 and 20.
The issue is that Meath football is uncompetitive on the national (and increasingly regional) stage. The structures are beginning to be put into place but we are way behind the likes of Kildare never mind Dublin. A new manager or trainer doesn't change that, in fact it may set the project back.

Could we be doing better than we can with the players we have, maybe. I think Andy and his team will learn a lot from the mistakes they've made this year. With a bit more cuteness on the line we'd have beaten Donegal but that shouldn't be the size of our ambition."
How is matthematix dead right ? Did you read his post ?

matthematix argument was about Division 1 football not the place to be ..and now you are backing him up with only underage successful teams succeed in Division 1...lets take a look at Cavan Ulster Under-21 Football Champions 2011, 2012,2013, 2014, Have Cavan develop by playing in big games when they are 18, 19 and 20 ?

Roscommon Connacht Under-21 Football Champions 2010, 2012, 2014, 2015 , Have Roscommon develop by playing in big games when they are 18, 19 and 20 ?

What Richieq was saying Meath need to get playing Division 1 football (Richieq dead right)

matthematix then said look at Cavan and Roscommon (2017 Connacht Football Champions ) they got to division 1 and got relegated because there are no good and will win nothing !

Then you backed him up on the lack of underage success reason why teams don't succeed at the highest level !

Is anybody else confused ?

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 875 - 11/07/2017 18:25:48    2015140

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Replying To Richieq:  "Jesus here we go again making stupid statements about our players not being good enough for other teams, lads will ye give up on that load of b*****ks, we are trying to develop players for a Meath team not any other county. And we need promotion, we need to play teams like Donegal, Mayo, Dublin etc on a more regular basis or we will never we fully develop our players to their full potential, sure why don't we all sit at home and twiddle or thumbs for god knows how long until we discover these special players, I might remind you that players of the calibre of Lyons, O'Rourke, Cassels, McEntee etc suffered the indignity of defeats to the likes of Longford and Wexford before success came their way, they were lambasted in the same way some of the current players were and in 1985 when Laois cut them to pieces in Tullamore anyone who said we would win Leinster a year later would have been locked up, those players were thought to be not good enough just as many think today's players aren't good enough. Well I am not part of that school of thought and whilst I am not a blind optimist either I believe these players and management can have success, and I won't be sitting at home waiting for it to happen either."
Excellent post. And I think it says it all. Well done

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 11/07/2017 20:37:11    2015230

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Replying To pauk123:  "Sorry Richieq, matthematix is dead right. We don't have the players at the moment.
Look at all of the top counties that are consistently challenging for provincial and AI honors. They have all had strong minor and U21 teams recently. In the last few years we haven't. We haven't won an U21 Leinster since 2001.
Players just don't develop as adults playing other D1 teams. They develop by playing in big games when they are 18, 19 and 20.
The issue is that Meath football is uncompetitive on the national (and increasingly regional) stage. The structures are beginning to be put into place but we are way behind the likes of Kildare never mind Dublin. A new manager or trainer doesn't change that, in fact it may set the project back.

Could we be doing better than we can with the players we have, maybe. I think Andy and his team will learn a lot from the mistakes they've made this year. With a bit more cuteness on the line we'd have beaten Donegal but that shouldn't be the size of our ambition."
You cant be honest on here these players are around a few years now i know we have some new faces but when we are winning minor and under 21 we will get back to the top most clubs have dads coaching teams woth there sons on them at club level i know its a thankless job but on till we start at club level using the coaching courses at are run by the gaa we wont get any where and you have to compare our players to the best around ie the dubs and kerry the rubbish that division 1 football will solve everthing is pie in the sky when we have good players we will be in division 1 and competing not getting hammered i dont know how lads have forgotten the kildare game and donegal have murphy and mc b who wer head and shoulders better than anything we had not looking for an argument just have to face facts and when you admitt whats wrong you can then start to change it like why a county pur size with the love of the game like there is in meath why have we fallen so far off the top and again the dubs are top of the tree with kerry when we have good club players we will have good county players division 1 or 4 you are in the division you have the players for we could go up next year but this group will not beat the top 5 or 6 team and that sadly is a fact no rose tinted glasses will change

matthematx (Meath) - Posts: 177 - 11/07/2017 22:05:10    2015281

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Replying To Jinxie:  "I actually used to think royaldunne was a bit paranoid. Had a chip on his shoulder. Was imagining that people were only waiting to see us beaten to have a go at management.
However, to my utter disappointed it appears he is perfectly sane and we capable of judging the motives of a few.

And before anyone has a go at me for standing up for Andy mc, I was one of the very few to support mod, and still firmly believe his intentions were good and there was actually a method to his play.

But Andy is the manager now and he has a big job on his hands. But to be knocking him and slating him after less than a year in the job is ridiculous."
Plenty on this forum willing to make comments on every player so some negative comments about the manager come with the territory. Truth is it wasnt a good year for the manager but hopefully he will have learned from the experience.

Poormouth (Meath) - Posts: 204 - 11/07/2017 23:22:36    2015324

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bobkarlgees (Meath) - not sure about what you term success. Most folk judge success on what is won. Last year the O'Byrne cup was won (it may not have been much but it was 10 years since it was last won) and this year we won nothing. Last year we had 4 away league games and this year we had 3 away games and we were not promoted either year. In the championship we got lucky draws, all home fixtures and we beat Sligo and could have beat Donegal. Now next year we have to contend with Cork, Down, Roscommon, Cavan and a few more which will make getting out of Div 2 difficult but not impossible. Now there are guys posting here who think that a glass have full is better than a glass half empty - the are the same. One can produce stats to try to validate ones own opinion but that does not change the facts. Guys are now saying that we are a lot fitter and we play well in second half - against Kildare we did not play in either half. Other guys posting that we have the best players available because most of the team is from their own clubs-so what are we to believe? Are we to believe that all the good players are from clubs who haver won nothing within the county at the highest level. I do not have the answers but pose some questions.

In conclusion I would say that everyone involved at county level has put in tremendous effort and it is only the first year for management. Some posters are now complaining about negative posters but these same posters were very negative last year. For 2018 I say, support your team irrespective of the result as everyone involved give there best and give up their considerable precious time for the good of their county.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 12/07/2017 00:44:55    2015345

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Replying To Poormouth:  "Plenty on this forum willing to make comments on every player so some negative comments about the manager come with the territory. Truth is it wasnt a good year for the manager but hopefully he will have learned from the experience."
wouldn't say it was a bad year judging by were we are coming from in recent years.

baby steps..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 12/07/2017 08:27:55    2015370

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "wouldn't say it was a bad year judging by were we are coming from in recent years.

baby steps.."
I forgot to add that there are number of players on the team/panel who are equally as good as some of the players who won AI's but it takes time to build team success. The great teams who won AI's got well beaten on tours in the league to Roscommon, Armagh, etc. and well beaten by Galway in the championship so I would be very slow to throw negative comments at anyone past or present involved in county team or management . We all want success but would any one of us be prepared to put the time and effort that management puts in to gain success. Finally, the last two home championship generated a great atmosphere and a lot about what is good about our championship was on display.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 12/07/2017 09:38:39    2015401

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Well the bell has been rung for 2017 , the die has been cast , and we are out of the 2017 Championship .
It's year 1 of a longer plan , so lets move on and hope for better days . judging success is relative to the level you are coming from , unfortunately peoples expectations can be slightly higher and exaggerated than reality , and in truth I am very guilty of that myself ....
The forth coming weeks should be one of analysis , review and consolidation within the team . The Club championships should progress at pace and the club scene should be systematically scoured for some rough diamonds that can be added to the panel. To get an improvement. I expect to be seeing the management team and selectors at loads of Club matches , trawling all levels for those rough diamonds that may improve our lot .
there a core of players that can be worked with , there are areas of concern ( defence / M/F ) where we were not able to compete for a number of games . These should all be looked at and addressed during the forthcoming months .
Hopefully 2018 will have a better shine .

Meath_True (Meath) - Posts: 285 - 12/07/2017 10:16:42    2015418

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Replying To browncows:  "bobkarlgees (Meath) - not sure about what you term success. Most folk judge success on what is won. Last year the O'Byrne cup was won (it may not have been much but it was 10 years since it was last won) and this year we won nothing. Last year we had 4 away league games and this year we had 3 away games and we were not promoted either year. In the championship we got lucky draws, all home fixtures and we beat Sligo and could have beat Donegal. Now next year we have to contend with Cork, Down, Roscommon, Cavan and a few more which will make getting out of Div 2 difficult but not impossible. Now there are guys posting here who think that a glass have full is better than a glass half empty - the are the same. One can produce stats to try to validate ones own opinion but that does not change the facts. Guys are now saying that we are a lot fitter and we play well in second half - against Kildare we did not play in either half. Other guys posting that we have the best players available because most of the team is from their own clubs-so what are we to believe? Are we to believe that all the good players are from clubs who haver won nothing within the county at the highest level. I do not have the answers but pose some questions.

In conclusion I would say that everyone involved at county level has put in tremendous effort and it is only the first year for management. Some posters are now complaining about negative posters but these same posters were very negative last year. For 2018 I say, support your team irrespective of the result as everyone involved give there best and give up their considerable precious time for the good of their county."
I never suggested there was any success , I was merely replying to an opinion that we are in the exact same place as last year. Which I disagreed. And if your asking, I don't regard the OBC as success. As I never heard a manger so happy, that they where knocked out in all my life as Jim Gavin last year, and they never even bothered this year as they where all in Jamaica.

Mentally we are in slightly better shape and we are finishing better in second half's. Bear in mind Andy gave a lot of lads a chance in the league ie Brian Sherdian, Wille Carry togher, David Mc Quillian etc. so the management are on a learning cure. So hopefully lessons have been learned.

My private hope for this year was a outside shot at promotion, and possibly reach the quarter finals.
We actually just missed out on promotion, after coming from a low nearly been relegated last year.
championship is a strange one we got destroyed against kildare,
But after that we recovered to beat Sligo and register our first win in qualifiers since 2011.
And a hearting fighting display Donegal but ultimately we just came up short, it was a much improved form the display against Derry 12 months previous.

bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 12/07/2017 14:42:31    2015623

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Replying To bobkarlgees:  "I never suggested there was any success , I was merely replying to an opinion that we are in the exact same place as last year. Which I disagreed. And if your asking, I don't regard the OBC as success. As I never heard a manger so happy, that they where knocked out in all my life as Jim Gavin last year, and they never even bothered this year as they where all in Jamaica.

Mentally we are in slightly better shape and we are finishing better in second half's. Bear in mind Andy gave a lot of lads a chance in the league ie Brian Sherdian, Wille Carry togher, David Mc Quillian etc. so the management are on a learning cure. So hopefully lessons have been learned.

My private hope for this year was a outside shot at promotion, and possibly reach the quarter finals.
We actually just missed out on promotion, after coming from a low nearly been relegated last year.
championship is a strange one we got destroyed against kildare,
But after that we recovered to beat Sligo and register our first win in qualifiers since 2011.
And a hearting fighting display Donegal but ultimately we just came up short, it was a much improved form the display against Derry 12 months previous."
good summary of the season to be fair.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 12/07/2017 16:10:56    2015680

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