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Where were the Ryan twins, Podge McGowan, Iarla Hughes, Caolach Hallligan, Thomas McGuinness, Jordan Browne, Daire Rowe, Ethan Devine, Kevin Traynor (not sure if he's still underage) Eanna O Kelly lynch Eamon O'Donnchadha Charlie Bird, Kyle Dixon, Brian Harnan Shane Cumiskey ? Kepak10 (Meath) - Posts: 162 - 23/02/2017 13:27:40 1959871 Link 0 |
Do you know roughly how many of the players from last nights starting 15 are eligible for the 21s next year? I was thinking it was a young enough team.
Barney123 (Meath) - Posts: 676 - 23/02/2017 14:07:41 1959883 Link 9 |
No u 21 next year. U 20 from here on in
Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1467 - 23/02/2017 14:29:38 1959890 Link 9 |
rubbish talk about management.they were missing a lot of the older u21's,probably 9 starters ffs. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 23/02/2017 14:35:27 1959892 Link 3 |
Exactly... I seen the U-21 team play in the Hastings Cup this year and they looked much better than previous years so I don't think its fair to judge 4/5 months of hard work on a bad display in horrendous conditions. Barry Callaghan, Paddy Reynolds, Brian Farrell etc. put in a lot of hard and I seen them at numerous matches last autumn scouting for players but sometimes luck goes against you and while I did expect Meath to win last night; I wouldn't have given them much of a chance of overturning Dublin in the next round considering the players who were injured and unavailable. If you consider the absentees or players who were unable to start the match it is clear to see why we end up with only 4 or 5; 21 year old's on the team; I would have expected a serious tilt at a leinster title if all the players below were fully fit and available: Daire Rowe Ronan Jones Gavin Mc Gowan Caolach O' Hallagain Brian Harnan Sean Meade Dan O' Neill James Conlon Jordan Brown A lot of these lads started on the team last year. Hopefully the co. board will give Callaghan and Co. full backing and they will have another crack at it with the U-20's next year; or maybe they should be even given the job of looking after the county junior team and a lot of the U-21 players can be kept in a top training environment so they will be in a better position to make the step up if they get called into the senior squad over the next couple of years. On a different note...it seems as if Meath get an awful lot of away fixtures at U-21 level; we rarely ever seem to play a championship match on home soil, is it just the luck of the draw regarding who gets home venue? Would have been a massive advantage to have that match some where in around Navan or Ashbourne last night. Thunderstruck (Meath) - Posts: 467 - 23/02/2017 16:56:46 1959958 Link 2 |
Didn't we have a home game against Dublin last year but it had to be moved to Parnell Park because we have no floodlights in Navan. I heard Ashbourne and Simonstown are deemed not suitable for these games despite one of the O'Byrne cup games being played in Ashbourne so I'm not sure whether that's true or not. Barney123 (Meath) - Posts: 676 - 23/02/2017 17:22:43 1959967 Link 9 |
Be doing well to play it in Navan with no lights. Meath conceded home advantage to Dublin last year because of the same thing begining (UK) - Posts: 300 - 23/02/2017 17:23:18 1959968 Link 1 |
thats another problem...
ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 23/02/2017 18:10:04 1959979 Link 0 |
Having been at the game yesterday, there are many positives. We should have won it even tho we were missing some many quality players, not just numbers but players who will play for Snrs. There is a 'however', so here it is...However what worried me was our collapse when Conlon was carded. We retreated into a shell and made fundamental errors. These players looked physically in good shape but are they mentally prepared, are they mentally tough enough and if not why not. It's seems like a problem that Micko had, Andy has (i.e. Kildare match) & now u21s have it. Why is it not being addressed? Who's responsibility is it? What needs to be done? kellsman (Meath) - Posts: 4 - 23/02/2017 20:44:20 1960042 Link 0 |
Kellsman i think you hit the nail on the head with your" however" Indeed there can be no doubt that our football teams lack mental toughness for several years now. Teams prepared by Boylan had it in abundance,almost without exception. So that suggests the deficiency lies in coaching in my view. Will reserve judgement on Andy for now,as it is too early to judge. In political language the exit polls don;t look great,,however lets wait. The county board would of course have ultimate responsibility for addressing any ongoing shortcomings. That would not mean changing the coach as being the only solution. Rather the coach is given the required assistance to meet a need ,just like in any other walk of life. I would think the end of this season would be the optimum time to take stock of this long standing vitally critical shortcoming. nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1211 - 23/02/2017 22:10:02 1960070 Link 0 |
Is seems to me that the management can't do right with some people, no matter what they do. anfearbeag (Meath) - Posts: 1134 - 23/02/2017 22:47:07 1960079 Link 11 |
Not Surprised at all with the result, the team reflects what kind of outcome we were likely to receive. I honestly believe that come championship any manager should be starting his best team regardless of age, if they have the ability they should be on the pitch. But the problem here is that Two age groups ( current under21s and under 20s) were clearly put to one side to make way for guys who were part of last years minor team. Barry and his management have been streets ahead of recent 21s managers with there preparations which started 5 months ago meticulous but honestly there selection process, was nothing short of insanity! MEATHTECH1243 (Meath) - Posts: 5 - 24/02/2017 08:12:36 1960118 Link 1 |
AthboyCelt, if you were at the game you would have seen Banty in with the team but on crutches due to an injury sustained in Croke Park on Sunday.
jackhackett (Meath) - Posts: 773 - 24/02/2017 08:36:57 1960125 Link 0 |
Well said an fear beag... A lot of people on here react way over the top to these things. We were missing some of our top players and lost to Westmeath away on a very wet night due to an unfortunate goal and people straight away blame management and player mentality and other things... on another night we would have won and all would be rosey..but now we are in crisis again from the top to bottom....very fickle on here sam1996 (Meath) - Posts: 436 - 24/02/2017 08:37:37 1960126 Link 0 |
Although this result is disappointing I wouldn't be too downbeat or jumping to conclusions about this bunch of players and management team. The U21s has always been a fairly Mickey Mouse grade anyway and the GAA were right to scrap it and make it U20s. The idea of all this training being a grand waste of time is also nonsense. These guys are going back to their clubs in the shape of their lives and are now ready to hit the ground running. Also is good experience for the guys who had never played minor before who in fairness played their part in the Hastings and also against Westmeath. Having watched the games it's clear to see what Barry and the lads are trying to do, high pressing starting high up the pitch and trying to turnover the play. Can really see a few players making the step up in a few years, some sticky backs and dangerous forwards is what we need and I think this team possesses a few. Vladputin (Meath) - Posts: 6 - 24/02/2017 09:35:11 1960142 Link 0 |
You sound just like me, have stated exactly what you have said many times. Agree 100 %
Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1467 - 24/02/2017 11:22:25 1960179 Link 10 |
100% agree, time will tell, but I believe that it is a good group of players who have been very well coached and even the most critical analysis would agree that the manager was exceptionally unlucky with injuries to key players. I was at the game and in fairness everyone agreed, meath were the better team and unfortunately a moment of madness from one player was the turning point. the likes of Clarke, O'Neill, both Conlons , Rowe, Halligan, Jones, Moriarity, o'reilly and a couple more will hopefully have many good days in green in the future
Footnote (Meath) - Posts: 66 - 24/02/2017 12:29:17 1960200 Link 0 |
good post
ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 24/02/2017 13:00:29 1960206 Link 0 |
agreed,look they were seriously dealt huge blows injury wise.Players would have still learned alot from the hastings win and despite all that,if they had 15 men on the field they would be playing next week too.
ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 24/02/2017 13:04:47 1960207 Link 2 |
Would agree with that.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 24/02/2017 17:19:38 1960289 Link 0 |