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Replying To MeathNo3: "Its the players who seem to be in prams and playing with toys. Not One Meath player stood up to his opposite man. Even when one of them stuck a knee into a back noone jumped in to show the team wouldnt take that." We know all that but thanks again for stating the obvious. Seriously, can we not move on from this now?? Loyalroyal17 (Meath) - Posts: 627 - 19/06/2017 11:50:51 2001710 Link
Hard to know where this Meath team really are, since the Down game we seemed to make significant progress and went into saturday expecting a good tight game. What we got a hammering, and comprehensively beaten all over the park, it was a huge dent to the confidence I don't know how this team will cope with it. Still I have to say, I honestly don't think we're finished yet (I know we have a game left anyway but you know what I mean), we're no Dublin or Kerry, or Kildare for that matter but we certainly didn't do ourselves justice on saturday, not by a long shot. If we play to our best then we can beat Sligo and hopefully get a bit of momentum going, if we don't perform then it's going to be a short summer but I have a feeling we could sting left in us yet. Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 19/06/2017 11:52:48 2001712 Link
It may not be Sligo, possibility of game been awarded to Antrim or more likely a replay. ( too many subs used) Not sure how that would affect draw seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2135 - 19/06/2017 11:58:58 2001722 Link
Replying To seadog54: "Is Newman still on the panel?" Looked grand in the warm ups on Saturday, was annoyed he didn't get to come on redser123 (Meath) - Posts: 402 - 19/06/2017 12:01:11 2001724 Link
Wouldn't be worrying just yet about Sligo. They might have to replay their game with Antrim after a possible seventh sub was used... brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 19/06/2017 12:02:52 2001727 Link
Replying To ziggy32001: "sligo will play with 14 men behind the ball,so we will have to be way calmer. we should win this.." Going on latest report they may have 16 behind ball seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2135 - 19/06/2017 12:09:10 2001729 Link
Thoughts on having lenihnan move out to 40? bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1790 - 19/06/2017 12:18:19 2001744 Link
Replying To bert09: "Thoughts on having lenihnan move out to 40?" What would be your 6 forwards if you named him at 11? My opinion is it could work but would be slightly worried about him being further away from goal ? grahamc9897 (Meath) - Posts: 1174 - 19/06/2017 12:42:42 2001768 Link
Replying To grahamc9897: "What would be your 6 forwards if you named him at 11? My opinion is it could work but would be slightly worried about him being further away from goal ?" Yeah i agree don't think we can afford to have too far from goal! Loyalroyal17 (Meath) - Posts: 627 - 19/06/2017 12:55:27 2001778 Link
KILDARE: Mark Donnellan; Mick O'Grady, Ollie Lyons, David Hyland; Keith Cribbin, Eoin Doyle, Johnny Byrne; Kevin Feely, Tommy Moolick; Fergal Conway, Niall Kelly, David Slattery; Cathal McNally, Daniel Flynn, Paddy Brophy. Subs: Eamonn Callaghan for Brophy (49), Fionn Dowling for Moolick (59), Chris Healy for McNally (61), Peter Kelly for Hyland (65), Neil Flynn for Byrne (69), Emmet Bolton for Doyle (69). MEATH: Paddy O'Rourke; Conor McGill, Donal Keogan, Donnacha Tobin; Pauric Harnan, Mickey Burke, Shane McEntee; Bryan Menton, Ronan Jones; James Toher, Cillian O'Sullivan, Eamon Wallace; Graham Reilly Bryan McMahon, Donal Lenihan. Subs: James McEntee for Toher (28), Ruairi O Coileain for Wallace (h/t), Brian Conlon for Jones (47), Tomas O'Reilly for McMahon (51), Sean Tobin for Reilly (56), Alan Douglas for O'Sullivan (69) Kildare 1. Mark Donnellan - Maynooth 2. Hugh McGrillen - Celbridge 3. Michael Foley - Athy 4. Emmet Bolton - Eadestown 5. Ollie Lyons - Celbridge 6. Fergal Conway - Celbridge 7. Keith Cribbin - Johnstownbridge 8. Tommy Moolick - Leixlip 9. Padraig O'Neill - St Laurences 10. Cathal McNally - Johnstownbridge 11. Eamonn Callaghan - Naas 12. Sean Hurley - Johnstownbridge 13. Niall Kelly - Athy 14. Padraig Fogarty - St Laurence's 15. Paddy Brophy - Celbridge Meath 1. Patrick O'Rourke - Skryne 2. Caolan Young - Summerhill 3. Kevin Reilly - Navan O'Mahony's 4. Michael Burke - Longwood 5. Padraic Harnan - Moynalvey 6. Donal Keogan - Rathkenny 7. Damien Carroll - Ballinabrackey 8. Brian Meade - Rathkenny 9. Bryan Menton - Donaghmore/Ashbourne 10. Donncha Tobin - Blackhall Gaels 11. Shane O'Rourke - Simonstown Gaels 12. Andrew Tormey - Donaghmore/Ashbourne 13. Graham Reilly - St Colmcille's 14. Stephen Bray - Navan O'Mahony's 15. Bryan McMahon - Ratoath Here are both teams from the weekend and the semi final from three years ago,we won by 7 points in 2014 and it could have been more in fairness.On saturday were battered by 9 and could have been more.However the most interesting statistic is that both teams had 8 of the same personal playing in 2014 and saturday(all starting).The worrying thing in my opinion is how far kildare have come ahead of us in that 3 years.I do agree it's impossible to replace the likes of kevin o reilly and stephen bray over night but it just shows us we are simply not producing the players to compete at this level. thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 1047 - 19/06/2017 13:00:08 2001783 Link
Replying To thekillercrow: "Not looking forward to this. Sligo are dangerous and can if Louth can score 3 goals past us anyone can." look we will win next game handy it's about trying to put things right but the test won't come till game after next meath1977 (Meath) - Posts: 534 - 19/06/2017 13:00:16 2001784 Link
According to Paddy Power Meath win is 1/4 Sligo 7/2.... Loyalroyal17 (Meath) - Posts: 627 - 19/06/2017 13:17:25 2001796 Link
Replying To redser123: "Looked grand in the warm ups on Saturday, was annoyed he didn't get to come on" not a bad idea, seen him play center forward for dunboyne a few times where he played great, o'sullivan and biggy could be the wing forwards, the problem would be who are the the corner forwards if you move lenihan to 11, Newman and McMahon probably. Funny I remember when Cian ward was playing well a few years ago at corner forward the same discussion was had, could move him out to the 40 to get him more involved. redser123 (Meath) - Posts: 402 - 19/06/2017 13:19:42 2001799 Link
According to Paddy Power Meath win is 1/4 Sligo 7/2.... Loyalroyal17 (Meath) - Posts: 627 - 19/06/2017 13:20:20 2001801 Link
Replying To seadog54: "Going on latest report they may have 16 behind ball" haha :) ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 19/06/2017 13:21:46 2001802 Link
Replying To grahamc9897: "What would be your 6 forwards if you named him at 11? My opinion is it could work but would be slightly worried about him being further away from goal ?" I would put biggie as target man inside. Move lenihan out. I'd also consider putting Harnan half forward if lenihan stays where he is. Have Lenny and biggie as two man inside targets potentially. bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1790 - 19/06/2017 13:23:01 2001805 Link
The striking thing for me comparing that 2014 team to the 2017 team is the loss of O'Rourke, Reilly, Meade and Tormey - 4 big, strong men who's physicality hasn't been replaced. Belt (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 19/06/2017 13:37:43 2001820 Link
Replying To thelutch: "KILDARE: Mark Donnellan; Mick O'Grady, Ollie Lyons, David Hyland; Keith Cribbin, Eoin Doyle, Johnny Byrne; Kevin Feely, Tommy Moolick; Fergal Conway, Niall Kelly, David Slattery; Cathal McNally, Daniel Flynn, Paddy Brophy. Subs: Eamonn Callaghan for Brophy (49), Fionn Dowling for Moolick (59), Chris Healy for McNally (61), Peter Kelly for Hyland (65), Neil Flynn for Byrne (69), Emmet Bolton for Doyle (69). MEATH: Paddy O'Rourke; Conor McGill, Donal Keogan, Donnacha Tobin; Pauric Harnan, Mickey Burke, Shane McEntee; Bryan Menton, Ronan Jones; James Toher, Cillian O'Sullivan, Eamon Wallace; Graham Reilly Bryan McMahon, Donal Lenihan. Subs: James McEntee for Toher (28), Ruairi O Coileain for Wallace (h/t), Brian Conlon for Jones (47), Tomas O'Reilly for McMahon (51), Sean Tobin for Reilly (56), Alan Douglas for O'Sullivan (69) Kildare 1. Mark Donnellan - Maynooth 2. Hugh McGrillen - Celbridge 3. Michael Foley - Athy 4. Emmet Bolton - Eadestown 5. Ollie Lyons - Celbridge 6. Fergal Conway - Celbridge 7. Keith Cribbin - Johnstownbridge 8. Tommy Moolick - Leixlip 9. Padraig O'Neill - St Laurences 10. Cathal McNally - Johnstownbridge 11. Eamonn Callaghan - Naas 12. Sean Hurley - Johnstownbridge 13. Niall Kelly - Athy 14. Padraig Fogarty - St Laurence's 15. Paddy Brophy - Celbridge Meath 1. Patrick O'Rourke - Skryne 2. Caolan Young - Summerhill 3. Kevin Reilly - Navan O'Mahony's 4. Michael Burke - Longwood 5. Padraic Harnan - Moynalvey 6. Donal Keogan - Rathkenny 7. Damien Carroll - Ballinabrackey 8. Brian Meade - Rathkenny 9. Bryan Menton - Donaghmore/Ashbourne 10. Donncha Tobin - Blackhall Gaels 11. Shane O'Rourke - Simonstown Gaels 12. Andrew Tormey - Donaghmore/Ashbourne 13. Graham Reilly - St Colmcille's 14. Stephen Bray - Navan O'Mahony's 15. Bryan McMahon - Ratoath Here are both teams from the weekend and the semi final from three years ago,we won by 7 points in 2014 and it could have been more in fairness.On saturday were battered by 9 and could have been more.However the most interesting statistic is that both teams had 8 of the same personal playing in 2014 and saturday(all starting).The worrying thing in my opinion is how far kildare have come ahead of us in that 3 years.I do agree it's impossible to replace the likes of kevin o reilly and stephen bray over night but it just shows us we are simply not producing the players to compete at this level." I'd didn't even take 3 years, Kildare were muck in 2015 and 2016 in particular but their transformation in less than 12 months has been remarkable, now what that is exactly down too I don't know but I haven't seen such a transformation in a team so quickly since Donegal in 2010-2011 and I am more than interested to see how they perform against the Dubs, presuming they don't fall at the feet of Westmeath. This Kildare turnaround is quite amazing if you compare performances to last year. Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 19/06/2017 14:30:43 2001865 Link
Replying To grahamc9897: "Easy win I'd say... We need Newman back big time..Bit of a target man plan if not Sean Tobin.Inside forwards too small.. I know I named a few diffrent teams but still guessing... 1.O'Rourke 2.Keoghan 3.McGill 4.Tobin 5.James Mcentee 6.Power 7.Shane McEntee 8.Menton 9.Graham Reilly 10.ROC 11.O'Sullivan 12.Cian O'Brien 13.McMahon 14.Newman /Tobin 15.Lenihan" I think that you are being a bit too loyal to some players there. Andy Mac himself was quite critical of the players and I think it's time to make changes (within reason and within the current panel of course). Here is what I would go for and I would like to see if the hunger is there from some players that have got very little opportunity so far. Paddy O'Rourke Keoghan McGill J. McEntee Conlon Power Harnan Menton C. O'Brien A. Douglas M. Newman R. O.Coileann Lenihan G. Reilly COSullivan oldsam_newsam (Meath) - Posts: 638 - 19/06/2017 14:35:39 2001870 Link
Replying To oldsam_newsam: "I think that you are being a bit too loyal to some players there. Andy Mac himself was quite critical of the players and I think it's time to make changes (within reason and within the current panel of course). Here is what I would go for and I would like to see if the hunger is there from some players that have got very little opportunity so far. Paddy O'Rourke Keoghan McGill J. McEntee Conlon Power Harnan Menton C. O'Brien A. Douglas M. Newman R. O.Coileann Lenihan G. Reilly COSullivan" I updated my team to include Harnon instead of Shane McEntee. Only Difference in out 15 is Douglas for McMahon.. grahamc9897 (Meath) - Posts: 1174 - 19/06/2017 14:59:00 2001892 Link