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Post last nights Re-Org, Groups A&B have the same six teams and Group C now has eight team with Simonstown and O'Mahonys back in (all 2nd teams). Three teams to qualify from each group with one pre-lim quarter final to reduce to eight teams. Previously the three teams from Group A got thru and the third placed teams in B&C played in the pre-lim quarter final. With eight team now in Group C, does that mean after playing seven games, the 3rd placed team in Group C plays a pre-lim quarter final? I would have thought the way to do it was Group C should now have the three teams that qualify into quarter finals and the pre-lim is between A&B.....

Can anyone clarify?

Count (Meath) - Posts: 93 - 09/05/2017 11:46:33    1985428

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Replying To Count:  "Post last nights Re-Org, Groups A&B have the same six teams and Group C now has eight team with Simonstown and O'Mahonys back in (all 2nd teams). Three teams to qualify from each group with one pre-lim quarter final to reduce to eight teams. Previously the three teams from Group A got thru and the third placed teams in B&C played in the pre-lim quarter final. With eight team now in Group C, does that mean after playing seven games, the 3rd placed team in Group C plays a pre-lim quarter final? I would have thought the way to do it was Group C should now have the three teams that qualify into quarter finals and the pre-lim is between A&B.....

Can anyone clarify?"
3rd Place team in groups B & C still play in Prelim QF
Only change was the addition of NOM and Simonstown to Group C.
The proposal was that they would play each other in R1 and leave everything as it was but one of them complained and there was a redrawing of the pairings for group C.
Pointless really as they both have to face each other at some stage but Group C was redrawn anyway.

Royal_Gunner (Meath) - Posts: 534 - 09/05/2017 12:19:10    1985442

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Thanks for clarifying, this means that if the 3rd placed team from Group C go on to win the Junior A championship, they will have played 11 matches (excl. any replays)

Count (Meath) - Posts: 93 - 09/05/2017 14:08:14    1985474

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Does anybody know how many teams come through from the B team section ?

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1454 - 29/06/2017 00:07:45    2007203

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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99:  "Does anybody know how many teams come through from the B team section ?"
Top 3 teams in Group A into QF.
Top 2 teams in Group B & C into QF.
3rd place team in B & C play off for QF spot.

Royal_Gunner (Meath) - Posts: 534 - 29/06/2017 08:47:00    2007252

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I know this is junior A but does anyone know how many comes out of Junior D, there is only 2 Groups, Guessing only two and straight to a semi final ?

rightthere (Meath) - Posts: 128 - 29/06/2017 09:58:13    2007289

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Replying To rightthere:  "I know this is junior A but does anyone know how many comes out of Junior D, there is only 2 Groups, Guessing only two and straight to a semi final ?"
I say it depends on how many left after 5 rounds played

numberedjerseys (USA) - Posts: 348 - 29/06/2017 16:38:38    2007558

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Dark day for Navan o Mahoneys yesterday. Something seriously wrong if that is genuinely their next best after players who played first round of senior. Again a disgrace to be charging €10 to see 2 second strings play

Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1467 - 22/07/2017 13:22:28    2020881

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Group B sorted moylagh seem to be new kids on the block. Meath hill flying in group A. Some of the so called favourites in that gruop struggling.
Group C going along predicable lines dunboyne tones seneschalstown looking best

Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 26/07/2017 11:45:04    2023765

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any predictions for Junior A group winners and such?

Meath Hill flying indeed in Group A, hammering Clonard. Drumconrath got their 2nd dominating win in a row over 2 "favourites" in Clann na nGael and Cortown (they never were favourites to me personally). Meath Hill to top with Drumconrath 2nd. 3rd is there for the taking between Clonard, Cortown and Clann na nGael. I'll pick Clonard but it really could be any of them who get it.

Group B is looking very different to what I expected. Moylagh surprise group leaders but deservedly so after some great performances. Carnaross close behind on score difference, then Dunsany back in 3rd which is very surprising. I'd say Moylagh will maintain 1st in the group with Carnaross in 2nd. Dunsany will finish 3rd and settle for a preliminary Q/F.

Group C looks as expected. Dunboyne top the group, Tones 2nd and Seneschalstown 3rd. Dunboyne and Tones very even teams. they will finish as the top 2, but I expect a late surge from Summerhill to beat Seneschalstown to 3rd with Seneschalstown having to play Dunboyne and Tones in their last 2 games.

Relegation? Moynalty struggling in Junior A, they'll be very lucky to stay up. However, Simonstown are also looking poor. Brigids got a win at last but still seem out of sorts.

Thoughts?

trueblue1995 (Meath) - Posts: 36 - 26/07/2017 15:32:55    2023955

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While Meath Hill have only won one game in the league, I think the experience of being the only junior team regularly playing against intermediate and senior teams will stand to them.

Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1362 - 26/07/2017 16:11:11    2023985

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All shadow boxing at this stage. The only aim is to get to the quarter finals, and then anything can happen.

In group A, Meath Hill look good at this stage and will probably be joined by Drumconrath. The last spot will be between Clonard and Cortowm with Clonard favourites to take it, which would be a great turnaround after last year. Moynalty are in trouble, which is no surprise as they weren't good enough to win junior B.

In group B, the top 3 of moylagh, carnaross and dunsany will probably progress, and all 3 will fancy their chances at the business end. Kilmainhwood and st Brigids will likely fight it out for the bottom spot, and will have to find someone else to blame for their woes, now that the big bad clubs from south Meath are all in group 3.

Assuming that 2 teams automatically go down from group 3, then Simonstown and dunshaughlin are probably doomed. Dunboyne and Wolfe tones will probably take the two top spots, with skryne summer hill and seneschalstown fighting it out for the last spot. Summerhill seem to have the easier finish. It's all probably irrelevant though, as history suggests that the winner won't be coming from this group.

I fancy either dunsany or carnaross to win it, but both Meath hill and moylagh would disagree. It's wide open.
Pointless speculating about relegation, as it depends on who wins junior b.

anfearbeag (Meath) - Posts: 1134 - 26/07/2017 19:58:04    2024104

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Reckon dunboyne will cause problems but meath hill and moylagh look good

Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 28/07/2017 16:53:52    2025015

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I see simonstown played 7 lost 7 score difference -89
It is rumoured they have a new plan to stay junior A this year.
plan is to pack junior C team and win it get promoted to junior B and then demand 2nd team stays junior A
Seriously though they kicked up such a row to stay junior A you would think they would have made an effort to win even 1 game.

numberedjerseys (USA) - Posts: 348 - 12/08/2017 09:17:19    2032531

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Replying To numberedjerseys:  "I see simonstown played 7 lost 7 score difference -89
It is rumoured they have a new plan to stay junior A this year.
plan is to pack junior C team and win it get promoted to junior B and then demand 2nd team stays junior A
Seriously though they kicked up such a row to stay junior A you would think they would have made an effort to win even 1 game."
I think Simonstown are only worried about winning the Keegan cup.
I dont think they will mind playing Junior B next year after getting relegated fairly.

Maestro (Meath) - Posts: 569 - 12/08/2017 21:20:44    2032646

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After games this weekend 8 of the 9 spots sorted with Cortown Clonard and clan Na Gael fighting for last one.

numberedjerseys (USA) - Posts: 348 - 14/08/2017 00:01:52    2033019

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Replying To numberedjerseys:  "After games this weekend 8 of the 9 spots sorted with Cortown Clonard and clan Na Gael fighting for last one."
Maybe this has been talked about earlier in the thread, but looking at the document on the county board website (here) only 2 teams come out of Group C. So there are no preliminaries this year in the Junior A.

"Quarter Final draw. A1 v C2, B1 v A3, C1 v B2, A2 v B3 Semi Final 1 v 4 and 2 v 3 "

I wonder is this definitely the case?

hurlingroyals (Meath) - Posts: 45 - 14/08/2017 09:58:51    2033079

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How does the Junior B knockout stages work? Same as Junior A?

Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1362 - 14/08/2017 10:48:12    2033117

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Replying To Ratoath Royal:  "How does the Junior B knockout stages work? Same as Junior A?"
Preliminary quarter final B3 v C3. (D)
Quarter Finals A1 v D, B1 v A3, C1 v A2, B2 v C2.
Semi Finals 1 v 4 and 2 v 3.

hurlingroyals (Meath) - Posts: 45 - 14/08/2017 11:09:17    2033130

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Replying To hurlingroyals:  "Maybe this has been talked about earlier in the thread, but looking at the document on the county board website (here) only 2 teams come out of Group C. So there are no preliminaries this year in the Junior A.

"Quarter Final draw. A1 v C2, B1 v A3, C1 v B2, A2 v B3 Semi Final 1 v 4 and 2 v 3 "

I wonder is this definitely the case?"
I'd imagine that's been scrapped and the document just wasn't updated. It still refers to the Junior championship having 18 teams, despite the fact it now has 20. Plus the fixture planner produced a month ago still has a preliminary round for the JFC.

Is it not a bit unfair that they intend on giving fewer QF spots to the group with 2nd teams? What's the basis for that?

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1643 - 14/08/2017 18:42:36    2033402

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