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How can Meath beat Dublin in Leinster?

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Replying To Frederick:  "Very easy answer
How do Meath with their current squad of players beat Dublin.
I will post an opinion but that was a lazy answer applicable to any team playing Dublin"
it wasn't really a lazy answer to me...i know what he is saying because he has touch on the subject in the past many times before.But do give your opinion on how to stop the Dubs?

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 875 - 08/06/2016 19:48:21    1863836

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Why are people still discussing this...we aren't playing Carlow Sunday.... Its a confident Louth team were playing in a neutral venue.....very very premature discussion............anyway the answer is we can't beat them

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 885 - 08/06/2016 20:35:20    1863866

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Replying To WhyTheLongFace:  "it wasn't really a lazy answer to me...i know what he is saying because he has touch on the subject in the past many times before.But do give your opinion on how to stop the Dubs?"
I taut it was
Most of what he said was fairly obvious like taking your scores, fast players. This is wedged to win any game.

First thing is win the throw in and drive straight at them, the throw is in when most teams are most vulnerable these days. If you w.in the throw in and beat your man, you've theoretically 7v 6 which means at this level you need to score. Watch Dublin next throw up, and watch how quickly Paul Flynn gets goal side as to ensure this doesn't happen against them. Make it happen sow the doubt seeds early.

Everyone goes on about their kick outs. Dublin take their starting position on kick outs and make the pitch as spacious as possible thus one player makes a run and cluxton picks him, quarter back style where most of the time the receiving player hardly breaks stride, this allowing Dublin to create the overlap straight away and their players are too good not to take advantage of such an overlap. Just look at Connollys goal v Laois.

Now I don't know the Meath personal that well,( as wel as say Louth) but I think concede the kick out and then set up in the '50 with 14 men, get the turnover and Spring, just like Tyrone did v Derry.key thing here is stopping the first phase so they recycle and switch wing so you must shuffle as a unit. Much like A back four in soccer(I'd love to see mourinho set up a defensive structure in Gaelic ).dublin may try 4-5 phases in an attack so focus and awareness is as key as pace and tackling. It requires serious discipline in the tackle and ensuring that Dublin don't get ahead by much with 50 metre points. This was how Donegal bet them. If Durkan hadn't of saved Connollys shot on goal, Donegal wouldve found it difficult.

Scoring is essential when you turn them over in play, after perhaps 4-5 phases of attacks, more lads join the attck like cooper and mc Mahon leaving bigger gaps at back. Also not only that but these lads are more likely to give it away than say Connolly or Kilkenny so when they are 50 yards out the intensity don't have to be in them as much, tempt them into a 20-30 yard kick pass into say brogan and then pounce on the bad pass or smother brogan with the blanket defence, get your turnover and Spring(Wallace,g Reilly,tormey, mc Mahon)

Other thing is frustrate the bejaysus of them, slow the game down at every oppurtunity as to not let momentum build. Especially after a few scores for them. This is a complete dark art.



You also need a bit of luck.

Just my opinion and I'd be interested in anyone's tauts ( positive and negative) on it

Frederick (Louth) - Posts: 479 - 09/06/2016 01:20:07    1863984

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Replying To Frederick:  "I taut it was
Most of what he said was fairly obvious like taking your scores, fast players. This is wedged to win any game.

First thing is win the throw in and drive straight at them, the throw is in when most teams are most vulnerable these days. If you w.in the throw in and beat your man, you've theoretically 7v 6 which means at this level you need to score. Watch Dublin next throw up, and watch how quickly Paul Flynn gets goal side as to ensure this doesn't happen against them. Make it happen sow the doubt seeds early.

Everyone goes on about their kick outs. Dublin take their starting position on kick outs and make the pitch as spacious as possible thus one player makes a run and cluxton picks him, quarter back style where most of the time the receiving player hardly breaks stride, this allowing Dublin to create the overlap straight away and their players are too good not to take advantage of such an overlap. Just look at Connollys goal v Laois.

Now I don't know the Meath personal that well,( as wel as say Louth) but I think concede the kick out and then set up in the '50 with 14 men, get the turnover and Spring, just like Tyrone did v Derry.key thing here is stopping the first phase so they recycle and switch wing so you must shuffle as a unit. Much like A back four in soccer(I'd love to see mourinho set up a defensive structure in Gaelic ).dublin may try 4-5 phases in an attack so focus and awareness is as key as pace and tackling. It requires serious discipline in the tackle and ensuring that Dublin don't get ahead by much with 50 metre points. This was how Donegal bet them. If Durkan hadn't of saved Connollys shot on goal, Donegal wouldve found it difficult.

Scoring is essential when you turn them over in play, after perhaps 4-5 phases of attacks, more lads join the attck like cooper and mc Mahon leaving bigger gaps at back. Also not only that but these lads are more likely to give it away than say Connolly or Kilkenny so when they are 50 yards out the intensity don't have to be in them as much, tempt them into a 20-30 yard kick pass into say brogan and then pounce on the bad pass or smother brogan with the blanket defence, get your turnover and Spring(Wallace,g Reilly,tormey, mc Mahon)

Other thing is frustrate the bejaysus of them, slow the game down at every oppurtunity as to not let momentum build. Especially after a few scores for them. This is a complete dark art.



You also need a bit of luck.

Just my opinion and I'd be interested in anyone's tauts ( positive and negative) on it"
look no harm to you..you made a good stab at it Fred..your true passionate Louth man,but i know how Louth can beat Dublin..put Meath jerseys on Dublin!

am i wrong :)

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 875 - 09/06/2016 14:15:09    1864247

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Replying To WhyTheLongFace:  "look no harm to you..you made a good stab at it Fred..your true passionate Louth man,but i know how Louth can beat Dublin..put Meath jerseys on Dublin!

am i wrong :)"
I know some people see this thread a bit arrogant because we play Louth first.But I think the idea of it,is the fact that Dublin are the best team in the country and also happen to be in Leinster.So they are the standard bearer for everyone in leinster.If you can give Dublin a game often enough you won't be too far away.How do we get there and can we get there(ish) with this current squad?

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 09/06/2016 14:35:10    1864271

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "I know some people see this thread a bit arrogant because we play Louth first.But I think the idea of it,is the fact that Dublin are the best team in the country and also happen to be in Leinster.So they are the standard bearer for everyone in leinster.If you can give Dublin a game often enough you won't be too far away.How do we get there and can we get there(ish) with this current squad?"
I am going to the game this sunday ziggy..hopefully we will beat louth,you can always get a feel what kinda mood and form the players are in first game of the championship,so hopefully this Topic will be full of ideas next week :)

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 875 - 09/06/2016 17:55:58    1864387

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Fred I enjoyed reading that. Appreciate the effort you put into putting your thoughts together for the forum

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1790 - 09/06/2016 18:29:04    1864411

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Like licking the cream from the centre of a pineapple log....that's what it'll be like to beat the dubs

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1790 - 09/06/2016 20:42:55    1864464

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Frederick- It took you over 6 hours to come back with that- do you realise that the match only last approx. 70 minutes. I would need an interpreter to follow that. Seadog54 we are posting about how to beat Dublin and that could be us or Louth. The one thing that is pretty sure is that if any team wants to win Leinster than the will have to beat the Dubs- may Frederick may be able to engineer that if the game extends for 6 or 7 hours

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 09/06/2016 22:14:57    1864500

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