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McEntee's comments re burning hurls

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There are a lot of Gerry McEntee's in this County and they are listened to. Some of those Meath footballers of the 80's would burn the sticks that is a known fact. Just let the player play the sport and let the development squads continue and let the clubs continue and the County Board support both Football and Hurling and be honest about it and see what the future brings. When you play both you love both and if I was asked to make a choice I would say go away and let me play sport.

Sportfan (Meath) - Posts: 133 - 15/09/2015 09:55:04    1787505

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Some people prefer football and some prefer hurling.

I prefer football myself,but I would never discriminate against hurling.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 15/09/2015 10:25:13    1787524

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Gerry Mc Entee was an inspirational player and is an expert in sport surgery. St Bridget's are one of Dublins super clubs at both football and hurling. They have over seventy teams at both codes and have designated county board coaches for the club and local schoolchildren. They also are regarded as a very affluent club with top facilities. I am not sure how much work Gerry has been asked to do with the club as Keith Barr seems to be the head honcho there. The current minor hurling manager is from St B and they won Leinster so I doubt his comments would be welcome at St B either. My question is what has Gerry given back to Meath since his playing days. Has he managed or coached teams in Meath. Has he helped his former club Nobber or any Meath teams at any stage. Most of his peers from the Meath team from his era have and continue to promote Meath Gaa through coaching management or mentoring. Colm O Rourke has strong views on lads playing other sports namely soccer and has dodged any Management with Meath. On a couple of occasions his stints with Simonstown have not really showed progressed. Sean Boylan has without doubt a love for both codes and he certainly can walk the walk and talk the talk. Meath Gaa needs to improve at both codes as no really good minor or 21 teams in a while. On the the club front abysmal performances in club all Ireland.for 20 years. We need to plan ahead at both codes. It's good to see that Colm Colye has a 15s group through to minor level at a recent meeting which will provide continuity and perhaps will lead to success

A.Chara (Meath) - Posts: 36 - 15/09/2015 11:42:54    1787607

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firmly believe he said them in jest at the meeting but privately meant them. i finding insulting as someone who plays both codes. its completely disrespectful to the great work being done at underage level with our u14,15 and 16 teams where they are competing well with the likes of offally wexford and dublin

srgt_slaughter (Meath) - Posts: 462 - 15/09/2015 12:14:17    1787638

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That's why continue with the development squads and keep the club alive and play the sport and hopefully the County Board will support both code when needed. Just lets play. Gerry McEntee is one person let him off and let those that discriminate be ignored.

Sportfan (Meath) - Posts: 133 - 15/09/2015 12:50:56    1787667

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Interesting article from Conall Collier in the Chronicle about McEntee's comments and hurling in the county.I suggest people read it..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 16/09/2015 10:11:44    1788031

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What's CC saying Ziggy? Article not online for us living in Dublin...

SmallHouse (Meath) - Posts: 291 - 16/09/2015 16:01:01    1788246

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Better to read it but this is some of his quotes..

"The challenges facing Meath hurling have not been causes by Gerry McEntee,he outlined his opinion and he answered honestly"

"Meath hurling could be much stronger,could have a higher profile inside and outside the county"

"Its not Gerry McEntee who is the enemy of Meath hurling,Who is the real enemy? What are hurling people going to do about it? The evidence of the last 30 years or so suggests they will blame someone else"

Its a good article overall,but the general theme is for hurling people to stop blaming everyone else and do something about it.He also points to the improvements made in Kerry,despite them been a football mad county..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 16/09/2015 19:05:40    1788348

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I read the article but CC argument that hurling people have let themselves down for 30 years is flawed. Comparing football and hurling in Meath is like chalk and cheese in regards to funding participation and county board influence. For instance I know two players who lived together at college in Dundalk. Training was organised for both in Dunganny on the same evening. One who was a hurler drove the footballer to Dunganny. The football lads mileage was over double the mileage of the hurler so they carpool from Dundalk and split the allowance 50/50. After training the hurler was fed on site by mobile catering while the football boys headed to Knightsbrook hotel for a sit down meal. The same type of disparity applied to gear boots and perks. Soon after the footballers refused to train in Dunganny and then relocated training to Pairc Tailteann while the hurlers were not allowed train in Navan. From the county board executive which undoubtedly is 80% from football background it's impossible to get funding for promoting coaching or improved performance at all grades. Dublin spent 1.2 million on hurling promotion last year and from being in a similarly minority's situation have shown massive strides forward in hurling. I actually think that hurling people in Meath have done a reasonable job promoting the game and their clubs with very limiting support bases and difficulty accessing funding and coaching in a heavily promoted football county

A.Chara (Meath) - Posts: 36 - 18/09/2015 14:07:08    1789022

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Interesting extract from The General Conference of UNESCO meeting in Paris 17 October to 21 November 1972 during its 17th Session when it adopted the following: "Considering that deterioration or disappearance of any item of the Cultural or Natural Heritage constitutes a harmful impoverishment of the heritage of all the Nations of the World".

In future let's be respectful of and supportive to the people on the ground who try in any way try to preserve our culture. This in essence what UNESCO meant yesterday.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1061 - 30/11/2018 17:05:16    2152940

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Replying To MillerX:  "Interesting extract from The General Conference of UNESCO meeting in Paris 17 October to 21 November 1972 during its 17th Session when it adopted the following: "Considering that deterioration or disappearance of any item of the Cultural or Natural Heritage constitutes a harmful impoverishment of the heritage of all the Nations of the World".

In future let's be respectful of and supportive to the people on the ground who try in any way try to preserve our culture. This in essence what UNESCO meant yesterday."
Well the important thing here is it's good to see your over his comments and have moved on. My god man it was 3 years ago.

Aloblack (Meath) - Posts: 265 - 30/11/2018 17:39:29    2152947

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Replying To MillerX:  "Interesting extract from The General Conference of UNESCO meeting in Paris 17 October to 21 November 1972 during its 17th Session when it adopted the following: "Considering that deterioration or disappearance of any item of the Cultural or Natural Heritage constitutes a harmful impoverishment of the heritage of all the Nations of the World".

In future let's be respectful of and supportive to the people on the ground who try in any way try to preserve our culture. This in essence what UNESCO meant yesterday."
I'm sure Gerry McEntee is now reconsidering his views, having taken into account how UNESCO feels. He might even regret the harmful impoverishment of the heritage of all the Nations of the World that he caused with his comments.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1642 - 30/11/2018 23:12:18    2152985

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If Gerry put in a hard and long hospital shift that Day, Then went to Navan as invited to talk about Football Development, Then was made wait for 2 hours while people with no research or new information waffled about hurling, I could see how something not very complimentary might come out.
Promote 2 codes by giving them seperate meetings to receive presentations. Nobody should be asked to sit in a meeting where they have no involvement.

Ashrules (Dublin) - Posts: 518 - 03/12/2018 15:26:15    2153193

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Replying To MillerX:  "Interesting extract from The General Conference of UNESCO meeting in Paris 17 October to 21 November 1972 during its 17th Session when it adopted the following: "Considering that deterioration or disappearance of any item of the Cultural or Natural Heritage constitutes a harmful impoverishment of the heritage of all the Nations of the World".

In future let's be respectful of and supportive to the people on the ground who try in any way try to preserve our culture. This in essence what UNESCO meant yesterday."
Are hurlers now a seperate ethnical group

Ashrules (Dublin) - Posts: 518 - 03/12/2018 15:27:13    2153194

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Replying To Ashrules:  "Are hurlers now a seperate ethnical group"
Not sure. Where does the 'hurler on the ditch' fit in -did he get any special mention!

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 03/12/2018 17:25:28    2153208

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Are they now a protected species??

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 03/12/2018 18:57:00    2153216

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Replying To MillerX:  "Interesting extract from The General Conference of UNESCO meeting in Paris 17 October to 21 November 1972 during its 17th Session when it adopted the following: "Considering that deterioration or disappearance of any item of the Cultural or Natural Heritage constitutes a harmful impoverishment of the heritage of all the Nations of the World".

In future let's be respectful of and supportive to the people on the ground who try in any way try to preserve our culture. This in essence what UNESCO meant yesterday."
Gerry was spot on

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 885 - 05/12/2018 00:09:39    2153356

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