Mayo - National League 2017

Still trying to get my head around Saturday nights game. With the strong team they put out it looked as if they were anxious for a win and if that was the case the performance was worrying. To beat Dublin at anytime you have to match them for fitness and work rate and both were absent from our game at the weekend. I would have thought it would have been an ideal time to leave out the likes of Keegan, Boyle, Andy and one or two others and give some of the fringe players a run out in Croke Park. A heavy defeat under those circumstances would be easier to take as it was always more important to target the Cavan game in two weeks. We seemed to play a lot of our defenders out of position and without the likes of Keegan, Harrison or Higgins to break out of defence we have no pace going forward. We have a lot of the same kind of forward who will work hard and track back but we have nobody with pace and also nobody who will get a couple of goals. We have had this kind of display before, against Cork and to a lesser extent Kerry last year and against the Dubs in Castlebar a couple of years ago so it's a bit early for alarm bells, but my big fear is that the lads who have been playing up until August for the last five or six years will find it difficult to lift themselves for one more year. Mayos game depends on ferocious tackling and that takes up a lot of energy and requires a very high level of fitness, and it looks as if we will be depending on the same old reliables this year as it doesn't seem as if any new talent is being unearthed. We haven't become a bad team over night
but the display the last night has left me uneasy.

Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts:746 - 06/03/2017 11:46:43   1964453

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Replying To Spoddgy:  "Fair play Wayno someone with a little perspective. Im happy that we have two goalkeepers of the caliber of Clarke and hennelly"
Clarkes kick outs are atrocious. That's the reason he was dropped for the replay. It's a move that back fired but I still can't see why some people can't move on from this. He coughed up.1-3 from kick outs the last night.

pray4sam (Mayo) - Posts:89 - 07/03/2017 21:59:15   1965286

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Replying To pray4sam:  "Clarkes kick outs are atrocious. That's the reason he was dropped for the replay. It's a move that back fired but I still can't see why some people can't move on from this. He coughed up.1-3 from kick outs the last night."
Agree, but the buck doesnt stop with just clarke on the kickouts. he needs options. its an area that i am hoping will get alot of work by management before the summer

unclegerry (Mayo) - Posts:1129 - 08/03/2017 14:42:34   1965446

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I suppose we have a habit of going overboard in defeat and victory which just illustrates the absolute desperation we all have for getting over the line with this team.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts:8563 - 09/03/2017 09:30:53   1965604

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Replying To unclegerry:  "Agree, but the buck doesnt stop with just clarke on the kickouts. he needs options. its an area that i am hoping will get alot of work by management before the summer"
Hopefully that will improve when we get our high fielders/o shea's or Barry moran back on the field. And we have the option of driving the ball long. Dublin pushed 7 into our 45 the last night for our kickouts negating the short option. Then when we went long we had no one to pick up the breaking ball. An area that Doherty is good in.

pray4sam (Mayo) - Posts:89 - 10/03/2017 12:23:45   1965949

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Mayo don't need to win the league. I expected us to struggle to stay up tbh, especially after the Monaghan game, but the Kerry result gifted the management the freedom to experiment. What we saw against the Rossies was a change of style and against the Dubs this was tried again with some adjustments. The fact that it unraveled was a risk which had to be gambled with, but that's necessary if the team is going to try to find something​ new to add to their​ tactical repertoire. Same painful process happened last year with McLoughlin as sweeper. It's a bit of a sickener for supporters, but we need to accept that the greater long term good will be served in the end. The great thing about trying things against this Dubs team is the fact that their consistency provides a terrific yardstick. It also could serve another purpose if two teams meet again when more is at stake, as another poster suggested. We can expect to see more of the same going forward, hopefully with better results.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts:1635 - 11/03/2017 18:45:42   1966208

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Replying To Pericles:  "Mayo don't need to win the league. I expected us to struggle to stay up tbh, especially after the Monaghan game, but the Kerry result gifted the management the freedom to experiment. What we saw against the Rossies was a change of style and against the Dubs this was tried again with some adjustments. The fact that it unraveled was a risk which had to be gambled with, but that's necessary if the team is going to try to find something​ new to add to their​ tactical repertoire. Same painful process happened last year with McLoughlin as sweeper. It's a bit of a sickener for supporters, but we need to accept that the greater long term good will be served in the end. The great thing about trying things against this Dubs team is the fact that their consistency provides a terrific yardstick. It also could serve another purpose if two teams meet again when more is at stake, as another poster suggested. We can expect to see more of the same going forward, hopefully with better results."
Its great to see the belief still there

billythekid69 (USA) - Posts:29 - 12/03/2017 04:22:40   1966294

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Replying To billythekid69:  "Its great to see the belief still there"
It's the same every year Billy. Mayo can't maintain the standard of performance the Dubs can, because we're still not the finished article. We also have logistical challenges the Dubs don't have. I was genuinely more concerned after the Fermanagh match last summer, because things looked a long way short of coming together at the time. Like everyone else I'd to us win all the time, but I can understand on at least some occasions when we don't. If you were to ask me where do I think the team is for the year ahead, I'd say I don't know, but I'm looking forward to finding out.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts:1635 - 13/03/2017 14:12:37   1966725

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Big game for Mayo this weekend, but what Mayo team will appear, both in players and attitute, will they put on a display and we will think all is ok again and Sam will come in Sept or will they or will they just fustrate us all again and play terrible football and Management just do nothing about it. Aonther poor display and its time most of that team get their P 45s

culmore (All) - Posts:1148 - 14/03/2017 21:08:17   1967096

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mayo should win this one very easily.

houser (Mayo) - Posts:5 - 14/03/2017 22:33:04   1967121

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Replying To houser:  "mayo should win this one very easily."
Yes they should. But remember if you lose you will need to beat Donegal to avoid relegation. Cavan are naive but learning fast at this level, can we close the gap and beat a depleted Mayo team that's short on confidence? For sure we can. This will be closer than you think lads. Cavan to win ugly by 2 or 3 points.

MadgeKing (Cavan) - Posts:224 - 15/03/2017 06:37:58   1967158

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I hope that if Mayo beat Cavan on Sunday and safety in Div. 1 guaranteed that the Mayo management start to introduce the rest of the panel players onto the starting 15. From looking at the Dublin game again, mayo were only playing at 50% of their capabilities. Why? I do not know. It is very hard to know if the management are attempting to introduce a new way to play with kick passing directly to the forwards and stopping the running game from our defence. If so, it does not seem to be working and it looks like the players are caught in two minds most of the time. It is a work in progress. Will it be ready for the championship?????

Giveitago (Mayo) - Posts:64 - 15/03/2017 09:23:19   1967174

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Replying To houser:  "mayo should win this one very easily."
Someone would have to say it! As handily as Dublin bate us?

Spoddgy (Mayo) - Posts:493 - 15/03/2017 10:30:30   1967192

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Replying To yew_tree:  "I suppose we have a habit of going overboard in defeat and victory which just illustrates the absolute desperation we all have for getting over the line with this team."
There's a lot of people like that for the last 20 or 30 years! Doesn't do any good!

Spoddgy (Mayo) - Posts:493 - 15/03/2017 10:31:28   1967193

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Replying To houser:  "mayo should win this one very easily."
I fear that your optimism may be misplaced here. yes most would argue that Mayo will win but for half an hour against Tyrone we shut them down and made them look extremely limited. Their excellent bench gave them a major lift and we simple couldnt match them in the second half. You however, with your absences do not have as much quality on the bench. Granted the undoubted potential of lads such as Conor Loftus. I wonder, if we are breathing down your necks at half time, like Fermanagh were last year, can you push for home like Tyrone did? With Padraig Faulkner, the tamer of Conor McManus, set to dominate Andy Moran i think that your talk of an easy victory may come back to bite you yet. P.S i wouldnt be taaking too much from all the lads on our forum that are bashing the team. They are all lads who dont go to games, get their reports from the local barstool expert, or have a grudge against the county setup. Spirit of 1952 abu.

sceptical (Cavan) - Posts:534 - 15/03/2017 12:25:58   1967241

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Replying To sceptical:  "I fear that your optimism may be misplaced here. yes most would argue that Mayo will win but for half an hour against Tyrone we shut them down and made them look extremely limited. Their excellent bench gave them a major lift and we simple couldnt match them in the second half. You however, with your absences do not have as much quality on the bench. Granted the undoubted potential of lads such as Conor Loftus. I wonder, if we are breathing down your necks at half time, like Fermanagh were last year, can you push for home like Tyrone did? With Padraig Faulkner, the tamer of Conor McManus, set to dominate Andy Moran i think that your talk of an easy victory may come back to bite you yet. P.S i wouldnt be taaking too much from all the lads on our forum that are bashing the team. They are all lads who dont go to games, get their reports from the local barstool expert, or have a grudge against the county setup. Spirit of 1952 abu."
No need to get offended and pick the one Mayo post saying we will win easily. A quick look over to Cavan and they seem confident of getting a victory in Castlebar. MacHale Park has not been a fortress in recent years so if Mayo play like we did v Dublin then Cavan will beat us.

From our point of view, I am hoping to see some sort of backlash.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts:8563 - 15/03/2017 13:54:02   1967276

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Replying To yew_tree:  "No need to get offended and pick the one Mayo post saying we will win easily. A quick look over to Cavan and they seem confident of getting a victory in Castlebar. MacHale Park has not been a fortress in recent years so if Mayo play like we did v Dublin then Cavan will beat us.

From our point of view, I am hoping to see some sort of backlash."
Don't worry lad, we are not all that touchy.

Looking forward to a good day out in Castlebar!

Reformation (Cavan) - Posts:306 - 16/03/2017 09:32:05   1967464

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Replying To yew_tree:  "No need to get offended and pick the one Mayo post saying we will win easily. A quick look over to Cavan and they seem confident of getting a victory in Castlebar. MacHale Park has not been a fortress in recent years so if Mayo play like we did v Dublin then Cavan will beat us.

From our point of view, I am hoping to see some sort of backlash."
Ah just trying to generate a bit of banter. Lots of snowflakes on our forum but your bunch seems to be more robust when it comes to the slagging. Look yous will probably have too much for us but i think that we can get close and then with a few minutes to go who knows what could happen.

sceptical (Cavan) - Posts:534 - 16/03/2017 10:53:49   1967496

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