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So I decided to write this post to see what the story about club football and the commitments that is being looked for from club players around the country? Monaghansclown (Monaghan) - Posts: 173 - 08/03/2017 11:17:25 1965363 Link 2 |
It really is a sad state of affairs when club football takes over young lives to the extent that they can't even have a drink at the weekend or go away on a stag do with their mates. The senior inter-county sides probably are no more dedicated than this. I feel some limit should be put on the amount of training club players should have to do, I don't have an answer on how to do this. Paying managers and coaches for a club team is just ridiculous. Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1870 - 08/03/2017 12:01:25 1965379 Link 3 |
Great post jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20587 - 08/03/2017 12:12:52 1965383 Link 0 |
What happens if you break the code of conduct? And with all due respect, the situation at your club is not the fault of the GAA or Croke Park, the blame lies with those making the decisions in your club - if it is like most junior clubs then the main decision makers are the players.
Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 08/03/2017 12:37:52 1965393 Link 0 |
Madness, did anyone notice on Michael Murphys toughest trade episode that players shared a drink with him over there meals. The Gaa relationship with alcohol is very dangerous. Young men and Women particularly in rural Ireland need social outlets other than their local GAA team, purley for mental health. For some people this may be music or some other other way to release tension or stress. Drink bans produce a very negative relationship with alcohol and encourages binge drinking. In my opinion a relaxed player has more opportunity of producing a good performance than a stressed one. Especially at Junior and intermediate level. bugsie (Leitrim) - Posts: 199 - 08/03/2017 12:54:39 1965399 Link 0 |
ridiculous that any club can dictate to players of an amateur sport what and what they cannot do during a year where club players at all levels don't know when they will even have a game to play. What would motivate any young lad to agree to these dictats especially from a couple of "outsiders" who have no loyalty to the players or the club apart from the money they will get. Money is hard to come by and to be handing out those sorts of "expenses???" is crazy and one would have to question where does it end? These figures seem to be the norm with some managers collecting maybe double this in "expenses" with no guarantee of success and then just up sticks and head off to the next club who buys into their speil. { mavericks and mercenaries } and the gaa coming out and saying that they could find no evidence of paid managers. The ostrich effect doesn't wash and it's looking more likely we will have semi pro players at county level being paid from central office before the end of this decade and to hell with the club players as they don't generate the income and will probably have a 2 tier gaa with separate officials to run each. bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 08/03/2017 12:55:12 1965400 Link 0 |
If it's a rural club then surely they'll want to have you on their side. 10 men have left the panel? 5 out injured already? Surely the club must be stretched for numbers at this stage. Best of luck in the season ahead.
XPAC (Westmeath) - Posts: 86 - 08/03/2017 13:18:02 1965410 Link 1 |
Unfortunately as long as players are willing to put up with this it will continue. People walk away but there are always those willing to put in the sacrifices for a chance of winning a Championship. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13692 - 08/03/2017 13:19:31 1965411 Link 0 |
My Club is a Div 3 senior championship club , no contract but an understanding , new manager came in set down with lads and asked what they wanted from season , from that point meeting those expectations a plan was drawn. Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 08/03/2017 13:23:27 1965413 Link 0 |
with the greatest respect - Yous are mugs for complying with this nonsense. Whoever is paying the coaches or agreed to or proposed should be got rid of. These codes of conduct just give the mercenary gobshites an excuse when they are , inevitably , not adhered to . Finsceal (None) - Posts: 559 - 08/03/2017 13:23:47 1965414 Link 2 |
That's the best thing about the GAA in Dublin. There is a level for everyone. I'm sure it is different down the country though. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13692 - 08/03/2017 13:37:35 1965420 Link 0 |
May not be the fault of the GAA or Croke Park but it's hard to point the blame at the club officials either. It's a society-wide issue. Professionalism has crept into the GAA due to the influence of other sports (principally rugby) and there is pressure on every club that has ambition to follow the leaders and pay out the money or risk being left behind.
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1898 - 08/03/2017 13:43:48 1965422 Link 0 |
Stretched would be an understatement. We went from a panel of 40 last year to a panel of around 26/27 this year and since we have to grade players we are seriously struggling to have enough numbers for a second team. Monaghansclown (Monaghan) - Posts: 173 - 08/03/2017 13:45:25 1965423 Link 0 |
Great and for me this kind of carry on is causing far more people giving up the game than any other issue. lillyboy (Kildare) - Posts: 429 - 08/03/2017 13:54:03 1965429 Link 0 |
This is the type of stuff that club players need to stand up against jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20587 - 08/03/2017 14:07:33 1965434 Link 1 |
Whilst I agree with this, the issue is more of a broader cultural one in Ireland. European culture is very much about having a beer or a glass of wine with food. The Irish one is more about going for pints, with or without food. You would seldom see lads sitting down for a glass of wine with a meal and leaving it at that. It is something that isn't helped by these drink bans though but you can see why they have come about.
benjyyy (Donegal) - Posts: 1422 - 08/03/2017 14:31:30 1965442 Link 1 |
Maybe a manager/ coaches rule where clubs must manage and coach from within their club boundaries would firstly stop the money drain . Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 08/03/2017 14:45:10 1965447 Link 1 |
If everyone took responsibility for their own patch rather than blaming some outside influence things would be a lot better, and that applies across many sectors outside GAA. A clubs ambition should be to have as many of their community playing the games as possible, not silverware at any price. The same applies at county level also. This idea that players have no option but to follow the leader reflects worse on the players themselves than anyone trying to impose the various codes of conduct.
Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 08/03/2017 14:49:29 1965450 Link 0 |
here here
Suas Sios (None) - Posts: 1550 - 08/03/2017 14:50:02 1965452 Link 0 |
When I first started playing senior we trained Tuesdays and Thursdays with a game on Sunday. The heavy training was in the spring but we kept on top of our fitness throughout the year. There were no gym sessions or dietary requirements. The only drink ban was from Friday night til after the game was played on the Sunday. We maybe went a week off the beer before Championship! Simpler times. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9073 - 08/03/2017 15:28:07 1965472 Link 0 |