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Kildare hurlers have decided to bring in 5 outside players this year to play with their team. Should other counties follow suit, reduce their underage coaching and just bring in outsiders from Limerick, Kilkenny and Tipperary too ? And should these outside players be allowed play Championship ? carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 19/01/2017 14:44:02 1946994 Link
Replying To carlovia: "Kildare hurlers have decided to bring in 5 outside players this year to play with their team. Should other counties follow suit, reduce their underage coaching and just bring in outsiders from Limerick, Kilkenny and Tipperary too ? And should these outside players be allowed play Championship ?" What is the context/details? Do they live in Kildare? Are they from various different counties? What level are they currently playing at? ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 19/01/2017 14:57:33 1947002 Link
Replying To ziggy32001: "What is the context/details? Do they live in Kildare? Are they from various different counties? What level are they currently playing at?" No. Yes. Very high. carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 19/01/2017 15:14:46 1947011 Link
Replying To ziggy32001: "What is the context/details? Do they live in Kildare? Are they from various different counties? What level are they currently playing at?" my thoughts exactly, prob living in kildare, makes perfect sense to me. be good to see another team make bigger strides in hurling, kerry carlow meath and few others have all improved massively in last couple of seasons. juniorjudge (Waterford) - Posts: 383 - 19/01/2017 15:23:21 1947018 Link
Not like Kildare to pull that trick! RoyalBadger (Meath) - Posts: 571 - 19/01/2017 15:54:55 1947032 Link
Is Seanie back? valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1890 - 19/01/2017 19:06:08 1947124 Link
Replying To juniorjudge: "my thoughts exactly, prob living in kildare, makes perfect sense to me. be good to see another team make bigger strides in hurling, kerry carlow meath and few others have all improved massively in last couple of seasons." To be fair, its hard to say they are making strides, when players from Kildare don't want to play for the county, which Joe bemoaned here: http://www.hoganstand.com/hurling/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=250289 I think they are absolutley right to avail of the permitted services of players from other counties. But if management can't get hurlers from Kildare to play for the county, it doesn't bode well for the future. Having to bring in players from other counties is a sticking plaster in that case, not making strides in the big picture. Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 19/01/2017 19:53:13 1947139 Link
according to todays limerick leader (page 3 of sports section) two limerick lads richie ryan and david reidy are to play with kildare, the article says richie transferred to naas and played for them in SHC final. Reidy will be a permit player and will continue to play for drom athlacca down here, he was on senior panel last year and came on against westmeath in championship-article does not say where he living, Both played minor for limerick janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 19/01/2017 20:23:09 1947148 Link
I think it should work the other way. Hurlers from weaker counties should be allowed play with McCarthy cup teams. Would only realistically affect a handful of players but would allow them to progress. liam500 (Wicklow) - Posts: 175 - 19/01/2017 20:33:15 1947152 Link
Replying To liam500: "I think it should work the other way. Hurlers from weaker counties should be allowed play with McCarthy cup teams. Would only realistically affect a handful of players but would allow them to progress." that also happens...a young meath hurler took up with waterford last year. juniorjudge (Waterford) - Posts: 383 - 19/01/2017 21:28:51 1947179 Link
Hurling in Kildare in terms of popularity comes after football, horse racing, soccer and is probably on par with rugby. Unfortunately people just dont follow kildare hurlers. if it takes a few outsiders to garner a bit of interest in the sport then im all for it. 11jm11 (Kildare) - Posts: 365 - 19/01/2017 22:38:31 1947202 Link
Replying To liam500: "I think it should work the other way. Hurlers from weaker counties should be allowed play with McCarthy cup teams. Would only realistically affect a handful of players but would allow them to progress." Kildare lost one of their best young hurlers in Conor Kenny to Borisoleigh in Tipperary. He hurled in the league for Tipp last year. Kildare will struggle this year without Gerry Keegan who would hold his own against any hurler in Ireland. Bringing these outsiders in won't make up for the retirements, opt outs and emigrations which have affected this squad. beir_bua (Kildare) - Posts: 746 - 19/01/2017 22:46:57 1947206 Link
Wasn't any big fuss when Tipperary took Conor Kenny from Kildare? And Adrian Ryan. Conor's brother Niall is gone in with Tipp U21s this year. All those lads played Senior with Kildare before Tipp took them. Waterford took Jack Fagan from Meath and instead of starting for Meath in Croke Park he was a sub for the Waterford U21s Works both ways.... S Man (Limerick) - Posts: 229 - 19/01/2017 23:13:02 1947209 Link
Replying To 11jm11: "Hurling in Kildare in terms of popularity comes after football, horse racing, soccer and is probably on par with rugby. Unfortunately people just dont follow kildare hurlers. if it takes a few outsiders to garner a bit of interest in the sport then im all for it." How would interest in horse racing make any difference? Hurling by playing numbers is less popular in limerick than rugby and soccer too. blackspot91 (Limerick) - Posts: 1055 - 20/01/2017 07:15:28 1947228 Link
Quaid asked 67 players to appear for county trials, 24 turned up. What else was he meant to do? As he said himself, no Kildare hurler is going to lose out as the only ones interested are already on the panel. It looks terrible, hurling in the county won't progress without homegrown talent. It would be interesting to see the 40 odd reasons he got from players. niallpak (Kildare) - Posts: 35 - 20/01/2017 08:22:59 1947231 Link
Replying To beir_bua: "Kildare lost one of their best young hurlers in Conor Kenny to Borisoleigh in Tipperary. He hurled in the league for Tipp last year. Kildare will struggle this year without Gerry Keegan who would hold his own against any hurler in Ireland. Bringing these outsiders in won't make up for the retirements, opt outs and emigrations which have affected this squad." What I mean is that the hurlers from the weaker counties should still be able to play with their native county. Just like it works the other way around for permit players. I train some juveniles in Wicklow and its very sad to know that they will never be able to reach their potential with the current rules in place. liam500 (Wicklow) - Posts: 175 - 20/01/2017 09:30:08 1947244 Link
Replying To valley84: "Is Seanie back?" No he has committed to dual status in Cavan I believe....... Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 20/01/2017 09:42:11 1947248 Link
Replying To beir_bua: "Kildare lost one of their best young hurlers in Conor Kenny to Borisoleigh in Tipperary. He hurled in the league for Tipp last year. Kildare will struggle this year without Gerry Keegan who would hold his own against any hurler in Ireland. Bringing these outsiders in won't make up for the retirements, opt outs and emigrations which have affected this squad." Where's Gerry Keegan gone? realman2 (Kildare) - Posts: 464 - 20/01/2017 09:47:23 1947253 Link
http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/sport/231530/limerick-duo-join-kildare-hurling-ranks.html janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 20/01/2017 10:16:48 1947263 Link
Replying To carlovia: "Kildare hurlers have decided to bring in 5 outside players this year to play with their team. Should other counties follow suit, reduce their underage coaching and just bring in outsiders from Limerick, Kilkenny and Tipperary too ? And should these outside players be allowed play Championship ?" can they send about 25 fringe players from Munster counties (Kerry included) up to Antrim? SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 20/01/2017 11:44:51 1947301 Link