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Is it now time for the GAA to come down hard on teams that their players, management or supporters are involved in violence at GAA grounds, every week or 2 we hear stories of violence breaking out at underage matches or adult club matches. My opinion is simple ban the clubs involved for a year or two, fine them heavy and demand they pay, if they claim that the club will disband if fined then take the GAA ground off them, that's worth a few bob, there is no place for violence in our games and shame on those who get involved, the GAA also need to protect match officials and also make them accountable for their decisions, some of the violence happens when the ref is too slow to make a decision earlier on in the game and players are getting pumped up because the ref didn't punish an offender properly and now a mêlée breaks out and full scale fighting happens involving a large number riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 03/11/2016 19:47:33 1931320 Link 1 |
Is it now time for the GAA to come down hard on teams that their players, management or supporters are involved in violence at GAA grounds, every week or 2 we hear stories of violence breaking out at underage matches or adult club matches. My opinion is simple ban the clubs involved for a year or two, fine them heavy and demand they pay, if they claim that the club will disband if fined then take the GAA ground off them, that's worth a few bob, there is no place for violence in our games and shame on those who get involved, the GAA also need to protect match officials and also make them accountable for their decisions, some of the violence happens when the ref is too slow to make a decision earlier on in the game and players are getting pumped up because the ref didn't punish an offender properly and now a mêlée breaks out and full scale fighting happens involving a large number ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 03/11/2016 20:04:55 1931327 Link 0 |
Sometimes refs could do themselves a favour and explain their decisions without acting in an arrogant and sometimes provocative manner. The link below is Tony Scullion's account of what Padraig Hughes said to him when he asked a simple question of him. I guess this was his version of the event but I know from my own experience of dealing with refs that the same response was given to me a few times which does nothing to help the situation. If a ref makes a call he has to have a reason, otherwise why make it. Why shouldn't this be explained by a ref? saying 'bye bye' is childish and certainly doesn't convince anyone that you made the right call. SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 03/11/2016 20:30:18 1931340 Link 0 |
Bit Draconian there riverboy in my opinion. While I agree that there is no place in GAA (sport in general) the fact is it will always be there so it's a hard one to try and eradicate, no matter how severe the penalty. Clubs and Managers can do all the possibly can to have discipline running through their teams and still be faced with a situation on the pitch where a brawl breaks out where their players get involved and for those minutes they have no control over what happens. Yes you can verbally and physically do your best to calm it down but you are still at the mercy of the madness of the moment. Madness where you a lot of the time have guys who wouldn't be violent by nature involved either defending a team mate who is taking a battering or has reacted to constant provocation towards them, be that verbal or physical. Even the most docile person has a breaking point and when you add the already charged emotions of a game then you do have the chance of it boiling over. Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 03/11/2016 20:41:39 1931344 Link 0 |
Should have read: Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 03/11/2016 20:50:12 1931346 Link 0 |
You can't have a situation were referees have to explain themselves on a pitch in the heat of battle, that is just not workable or even feasible. There is a capt on the pitch in a quiet moment he can ask for clarification and a ref is NOT obliged to give one. In other sports there is a procedure to be followed but if you ask out of turn the penalties are usually severe, it usually results in the team capt being penalised and/or the team. Ref's have to fill in a report, a player sent off is entitled to see that and dispute it. Anything else is anarchy. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4892 - 04/11/2016 14:06:47 1931527 Link 0 |
I was at the Tyrone semi final a few weeks back and the brawl at the end all stemmed from very poor officiating. If the ref had laid a marker down early on then Dromore and Killyclogher would have wound their necks in.
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 04/11/2016 14:23:15 1931539 Link 0 |
All very valid points above. There is a huge culture in the GAA of backing your own club no matter what. 1 guy gets suspended but when someone else does it "he's not that type of player, it must have been an accident". Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1824 - 04/11/2016 15:30:24 1931564 Link 0 |
I find this whole blaming the ref for physical melee's as madness. The ref certainly doesn't make 30 grown men take lumps out of each other. It's the players fault. A lot of these incidents also spread to the crowd as highlighted this last week with the two incidents in Westmeath/JHC match-what's their excuse? For too long players and clubs have been getting away with melee's and appealing the decision afterwards and getting it reduced. If a melee happens ban the team in question ie senior team. Not the the whole club, the team involved. The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2087 - 04/11/2016 17:08:55 1931596 Link 0 |
As you said that's the players side of things. Haven't heard from the ref or the ref's report. I don't buy into the "Tony Scullion is a great honest guy so he has to be believed" as said in some of the papers. The ref may have said it but we don't know. Also he deserved the red card.....two clear yellows. He shouldn't of even been complaining.
The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2087 - 04/11/2016 17:16:13 1931600 Link 0 |