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Should 45s and 65s be moved back ?

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Breheny's article in yesterday's Indy states how accuracy of 45s and 65s have increased in the modern era. Accordingly, should 45s be moved back to the 65; and 65s moved to own 65 ? omahant (USA) - Posts: 2570 - 02/11/2016 14:54:57 1930926 Link
No. Very few 45's are scored anymore in football coz no one except the goalie (supposedly) can kick accurately from the ground anymore. Dunno if there's a massive return on 65's in hurling either, to be honest. Slow day at the office for Breheny? keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 02/11/2016 15:14:07 1930934 Link
Not so sure about moving 45s back but there's certainly an argument for making 65s more difficult. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13705 - 02/11/2016 15:28:28 1930943 Link
Move them back and defenders will be booting the ball over the end line the first sign of danger Superglue (Kerry) - Posts: 1283 - 02/11/2016 15:56:17 1930949 Link
I've proposed making the sliotar a little heavier on here on a couple of occassions.It is so light that a player can hit it 40 yards with a flick of the wrists.A 65 is pretty easy these days for any decent free taker.It is nearly a guaranteed score.I remember Diarmuid O Sullivan left a trail of Limerick destruction in his wake many years ago before scoring the greatest point i've ever seen from over 100 yards out!No way players of old could have accomplished such a feat with the old sliotar! cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 02/11/2016 16:05:16 1930954 Link
Definitely not 45's. 65's I think could be yes. Raises a bigger question- is the gaelic football too heavy? Is it too hard to score from distance? The easier it is to score from distance, the more difficult it is to play 14 behind the ball successsfully. icehonesty (Wexford) - Posts: 2550 - 02/11/2016 16:13:07 1930958 Link
Gaelic games must be unique in that some people see players pushing themselves and increasing standards as a bad thing which needs to be punished.... CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1643 - 02/11/2016 16:25:00 1930966 Link
Replying To cuederocket: "I've proposed making the sliotar a little heavier on here on a couple of occassions.It is so light that a player can hit it 40 yards with a flick of the wrists.A 65 is pretty easy these days for any decent free taker.It is nearly a guaranteed score.I remember Diarmuid O Sullivan left a trail of Limerick destruction in his wake many years ago before scoring the greatest point i've ever seen from over 100 yards out!No way players of old could have accomplished such a feat with the old sliotar!" I think if you made the sliothors heavier you'd possibly kill players, especially with those plastic helmets offering flimsy protection. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4895 - 02/11/2016 22:46:11 1931054 Link
Replying To arock: "I think if you made the sliothors heavier you'd possibly kill players, especially with those plastic helmets offering flimsy protection." Yeah because when sliotars were heavier and players wore no helmets there were lads killed in almost every game, the death rate was so high from these lethal sliotars that games were decided on last man standing. 890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 02/11/2016 23:27:09 1931060 Link
I don't think making a football lighter would make it easier to kick further. Wind resistance would just slow it down faster. Try kicking 45s with a soccer ball. benjyyy (Donegal) - Posts: 1422 - 03/11/2016 09:17:25 1931081 Link
Was thinking about this last Sunday after Thurles won the game with a 65, why should a team be rewarded with (in hurling) such an easy shot for a point cause of a deflection? like it's a free shot why such a great reward ? move it further back or make it indirect. clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 03/11/2016 11:10:08 1931141 Link
If ye moved 45's and 65's back, they wouldn't be 45's and 65's then would they........... Dubfan Abroad (Dublin) - Posts: 282 - 03/11/2016 14:00:33 1931212 Link
Replying To clondalkindub: "Was thinking about this last Sunday after Thurles won the game with a 65, why should a team be rewarded with (in hurling) such an easy shot for a point cause of a deflection? like it's a free shot why such a great reward ? move it further back or make it indirect." ....or take a leaf out of soccers book and give them a corner kick/puck instead! extranjero (Wexford) - Posts: 375 - 03/11/2016 14:16:56 1931217 Link
Move them back and defenders will be booting the ball over the end line the first sign of danger Superglue (Kerry) - Posts:1162 - 02/11/2016 15:56:17 just reading this , and thought 5 points up keeper kicks ball to defender plays around with it defender to defender etc much as what happens now , then opposition push up and press , it is now an acceptable option to kick the ball behind the goal on the basis , you are wasting time , you are giving the opposition the possession that they can not score directly from , CYNICAL no would never happen Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 04/11/2016 11:00:15 1931447 Link
how's about a 21 yard free,5 yards in from the sideline? perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 04/11/2016 14:12:27 1931534 Link
Replying To perfect10: "how's about a 21 yard free,5 yards in from the sideline?" Football 45 is fine,in hurling change it to an indirect 65,cant score direct then. You could also change football 45 indirect. stonemadbeany (USA) - Posts: 540 - 08/11/2016 13:21:03 1932695 Link
Replying To Superglue: "Move them back and defenders will be booting the ball over the end line the first sign of danger" +1 Nothing more to be said. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7824 - 08/11/2016 21:18:35 1932883 Link