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You have completely restored my faith in gaelic football. bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1790 - 01/10/2016 21:33:20 1921235 Link 1 |
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great show by Mayo players, just a bit unlucky culmore (None) - Posts: 1398 - 01/10/2016 21:42:40 1921240 Link 0 |
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Not really, the word bottle comes to mind again with Mayo. The best team over the two games with the better footballers but don't have the belief or stomach to get over the gain line.
Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9697 - 02/10/2016 01:31:32 1921320 Link 1 |
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I don't actually think that is true. I feel the manager lost the game by dropping his keeper, that cost them 1-4 and Keegan to a black card. Nothing to do with bottle, sure they showed amazing bottle to come back from 3 points down in the drawn game. Dublin are one of the best teams in living memory, you don't run them so close if you have no bottle.
Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1873 - 02/10/2016 10:25:25 1921385 Link 1 |
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Thanks for actually talking sense. Its up to Kerry/Mayo/Donegal/Tyrone to stop them winning the 3 in a row. The rest of the countys may=aswell take a year out and watch the season unfold like the rest of us . Vishred (Mayo) - Posts: 303 - 02/10/2016 11:08:25 1921409 Link 0 |
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I'm sure Mayo supporters are gutted after narrowly losing an AlI Ireland final replay. Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 02/10/2016 12:02:54 1921432 Link 1 |
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Lazy and clichéd. Have you thought of getting a job in RTE. This defeat has zero to do with bottle. Luck had a great deal to do with it unfortunately. Mayo push this Dublin team to the pin of their collar. Dublin's bench was the difference in the end. Most breaking balls also fell Dublin's way. In the second half yesterday Mayo came out minus Keegan and Vaughan. That was massive. Yep 'bottle' was the problem
Weary (None) - Posts: 249 - 02/10/2016 12:12:41 1921436 Link 0 |
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Hard luck Mayo. Very little between the teams on both occasions but little consolation as nothing other than an All Ireland will suffice. Keep working at it from your club youth right up and it will happen some day. The decision to change keepers was a blunder by management and reminds me of Mc Guinness not starting Mc Brearty in 2014 final. Big calls go wrong sometimes and if it had been a win then he would be classed as a genius. Small margins, single points, unfortunate cards, that's football....Look forward to 2017!! Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1671 - 02/10/2016 12:46:32 1921452 Link 0 |
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Whatever about bad mistakes by players and management that game was decided by a weak minded referee. Far too many Dublin players got away with outrageous red card offences time for mayo to stand up and tell croke pk they do not want deegan to ref another of their games. Tyrone did it after the reffing debacles of 95 and 96 and decided to take no nonsense afterwards
mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1821 - 02/10/2016 12:51:48 1921454 Link 0 |
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No. Refs don't decide games, players do. Refs are a handy scapegoat. We got lucky in second half where one of our lads should have been black carded for hauling down a Dublin attacker. We should have pushed forward and taken a more shots early in the second half rather than letting the Dubs defence regroup. Dublin were far more decisive in front of the posts. Blaming the ref is an awful mentality to have after a defeat. Deegan let a lot go on both sides let the game flow. Yes he did make mistakes but if we're ever going to win an All Ireland we'll look on areas to improve on and strengthen rather than look for excuses. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7336 - 02/10/2016 13:13:57 1921458 Link 1 |
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Mayo were fantastic over the last 2 games and no other county could have pushed Dublin all the way, no shame in 2nd best either suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1667 - 02/10/2016 13:27:16 1921466 Link 1 |
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Very fair post Greeandred. No idea what game Mayotyroneman was looking at. I was disappointed with Dublin's performance yesterday despite the win. Our forwards were not clinical enough and we fumbled and lost a lot of possession. The truth is that this could have gone either way and Dublin are only marginally ahead of Mayo right now. Playing our top players in the league, while yielding 4 in a row, is taking it's toll in my opinion. Some of the older lads need to be rested until the later league games I feel and bring the young lads on. Mayo are looking good at underage level and some of their top players still have a few years in them. There's defintely a sam in that team but they don't come easy. Immensely proud of this Dublin outfit. They never give in. 29 games unbeaten is a phenomenal stat and this was a difficult Sam, having to go undefeated against Kerry, Donegal and Mayo twice adds a bit of currency. They deserve a break.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 02/10/2016 14:01:14 1921477 Link 1 |
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Green and red. Until mayo get a bit more cynical and learn how to intimidate refs they will continue to go nowhere. In second half Dublin committed 9 fouls in their own half stopping mayo counter attacks. What dismay concede. ONE and that was in 76th minute! Did deegan punish Dublin for this cynical fouling? Of course nor!
mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1821 - 02/10/2016 14:05:26 1921480 Link 0 |
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All of what you say is true. But we lost the game because we weren't as clinical as The Dubs up front. That's one of the areas we need to get an awful lot better, hopefully we can improve our current forwards and find some new ones. But we're delusional if we think Maurice Deegan lost us the game. Same way it was delusional blaming the ref in Limerick, we had plenty of chances to take The Kingdom that night but were schooled in the art of getting the right scores at the right times. Who's to say how Dublin would have reacted with 14 men. We have to improve within ourselves, the ref is not a factor within our control. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7336 - 02/10/2016 14:44:43 1921495 Link 0 |
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You start by saying lazy and clichéd and then say that luck had a lot to do with it?? Humorous that. Luck doesn't exist, mistakes were made that cost mayo and also some that really could have cost Dublin. Dropping a routine catch or missing a routine scoring chance is not luck, it's to do might mindset and mental fortitude.
JamsieMac (Cavan) - Posts: 481 - 02/10/2016 16:01:41 1921517 Link 1 |
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Refs do play a part though. Deegan is by no means perfect. Small,I think it was him,should have been black carded early in game. Kevin mc loughlin was running in to scoring position when there was 2 points in the game. He was fouled and dispossessed. Instead of availing of a free and possibly making it a 1 point game the Dubs countered and opened a 3 point lead. Then Coopers card was questionable too so he was getting calls wrong on both teams. Say what you like,and it seems everybody wants to exonerate officials,but they often do have a bearing on a games outcome. That's a fact.
seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 02/10/2016 16:20:12 1921523 Link 0 |
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Refs do play a part though. Deegan is by no means perfect. Small,I think it was him,should have been black carded early in game. Kevin mc loughlin was running in to scoring position when there was 2 points in the game. He was fouled and dispossessed. Instead of availing of a free and possibly making it a 1 point game the Dubs countered and opened a 3 point lead. Then Coopers card was questionable too so he was getting calls wrong on both teams. Say what you like,and it seems everybody wants to exonerate officials,but they often do have a bearing on a games outcome. That's a fact.
seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 02/10/2016 16:20:36 1921524 Link 0 |
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Small should have got black. Doherty should have got red for taking jonny cooper clean out of it from behind straight after keegans goal. Umpire even shook his head. Instead the next passage of play saw cooper black carded. However if he didnt go off Fitzsimons would not have come on and had a stormer. The universe works in mysterious ways. AOS might have had calls for a peno as did McMeniman. There are always going to be decisions for and against a team. Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 02/10/2016 17:16:07 1921536 Link 0 |
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McLoughlin shouldn't have been on the pitch Seanie. He dragged Kev Mc down in the first when through on goal, stone wall black. Mayo player punched/decked Johnny Cooper after Keegan's goal, striking offence - straight red. Easy to look at refereeing decisions from one angle or another but these decisions even themselves out. Mayo got a couple of soft kickable frees also. Better team won at the end of the day. Everything else is academic.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 02/10/2016 18:43:41 1921561 Link 2 |
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Of course refs play a part Seanie but that's not my point. If we are to keep improving and someday win the All Ireland we can forget about blaming referee's decisions, or indecisions, for losing a match. Nothing we can do about it in hindsight. Cynically looking for frees or trying to get opponents booked is wasting time that could be used improving areas that can make us champions. Dublin took their chances, we didn't. Simple as that. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7336 - 02/10/2016 20:56:09 1921634 Link 0 |