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More atmosphere anywhere else but Croke Park

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I know the is a good atmosphere in Croke Park but if your in the likes of Semple Stadium , Gaielic Grounds , Pearse Stadium , McHale Park , Celtic Park , Breffini Park , ETC ETC . I feel there is more of a buzz and a championship feeling in the air . The crouds are more ready and supportive , I was at both Killkenny and Waterford matches and the one in thules felt more exciting . I have been spread out around the country at matches and Croke Park isn't the same , yes I love going there and always happy to be there . So I think less matches in Croker could bring more joy and excitement to the sport and bring up attendance at games.

oakleafersir (Derry) - Posts: 808 - 23/08/2016 17:53:09    1905003

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Replying To oakleafersir:  "I know the is a good atmosphere in Croke Park but if your in the likes of Semple Stadium , Gaielic Grounds , Pearse Stadium , McHale Park , Celtic Park , Breffini Park , ETC ETC . I feel there is more of a buzz and a championship feeling in the air . The crouds are more ready and supportive , I was at both Killkenny and Waterford matches and the one in thules felt more exciting . I have been spread out around the country at matches and Croke Park isn't the same , yes I love going there and always happy to be there . So I think less matches in Croker could bring more joy and excitement to the sport and bring up attendance at games."
Couldnt agree more

juniorjudge (Waterford) - Posts: 383 - 23/08/2016 18:02:58    1905007

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Replying To oakleafersir:  "I know the is a good atmosphere in Croke Park but if your in the likes of Semple Stadium , Gaielic Grounds , Pearse Stadium , McHale Park , Celtic Park , Breffini Park , ETC ETC . I feel there is more of a buzz and a championship feeling in the air . The crouds are more ready and supportive , I was at both Killkenny and Waterford matches and the one in thules felt more exciting . I have been spread out around the country at matches and Croke Park isn't the same , yes I love going there and always happy to be there . So I think less matches in Croker could bring more joy and excitement to the sport and bring up attendance at games."
Absolutely spot on I was thinking of starting a thread on this my self to be honest, our semifinal replay against mayo in limerick was unreal even if we had lost it would still have been a great occasion in my opinion. Get more games out of Croker.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 23/08/2016 19:00:32    1905024

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Totally disagree
Was at thurles for hurling quarter finals several times and the ground holds 55 thousand and each time it was 30-35 thousand at it and atmosphere was dull as dishwater. It's not a full house that generates atmosphere it's what happens on the pitch or the build up to a game that generates it.
I was at international rules in Gaelic grounds a few years back and you could hear the players on the pitch it was that dead. Some league games in croker with only 25 thousand have been brilliant atmospheres.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 23/08/2016 19:57:19    1905044

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I also don't like the fact that you are not allowed to pitch invade in Croke Park , it just does not feel right your not allowed , you see your team win there first all Ireland ever your forced to stay off the pitch and it's also very memorable to be able to go out on the pitch and celebrate . Even if your team loses its still nice to still go out . One more thing I don't like is the fact they have that blue lining going over the first 4 layers of seats is also very annoying too .

oakleafersir (Derry) - Posts: 808 - 23/08/2016 20:05:20    1905046

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Disagree.
What's happening on the pitch derermines the 'atmosphere'.

Barnowl94 (Galway) - Posts: 3150 - 23/08/2016 21:01:50    1905064

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Replying To oakleafersir:  "I also don't like the fact that you are not allowed to pitch invade in Croke Park , it just does not feel right your not allowed , you see your team win there first all Ireland ever your forced to stay off the pitch and it's also very memorable to be able to go out on the pitch and celebrate . Even if your team loses its still nice to still go out . One more thing I don't like is the fact they have that blue lining going over the first 4 layers of seats is also very annoying too ."
To kind of follow on from your point, I don't like to see perimeter fences at stadia either. Is there really any excuse for it in this day and age? Simply to keep people off the pitch isn't a valid excuse IMO.

MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts: 2324 - 23/08/2016 21:16:56    1905069

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Replying To oakleafersir:  "I also don't like the fact that you are not allowed to pitch invade in Croke Park , it just does not feel right your not allowed , you see your team win there first all Ireland ever your forced to stay off the pitch and it's also very memorable to be able to go out on the pitch and celebrate . Even if your team loses its still nice to still go out . One more thing I don't like is the fact they have that blue lining going over the first 4 layers of seats is also very annoying too ."
I know what you mean oakleafer , what's that about?
And lads I think the teams feed of the athmosphere from the crowed as much as the the fans feeding off what's going on on the field.
I think crokepark should be kept for semifinals and finals only , also provincial grounds would get a much needed boost ,
I think both semifinals should be on the same weekend as well as the team with the 4 week wait is at a disadvantage to the team with a 3 week wait. They could have the dubs and who ever they're playing on the Saturday and the other two teams on the Sunday.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 23/08/2016 21:32:49    1905074

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know the is a good atmosphere in Croke Park but if your in the likes of Semple Stadium, Gaelic Grounds, Pearse Stadium, McHale Park, Celtic Park, Breffini Park , ETC ETC. I feel there is more of a buzz and a championship feeling in the air. The crouds are more ready and supportive, I was at both Killkenny and Waterford matches and the one in thules felt more exciting. I have been spread out around the country at matches and Croke Park isn't the same, yes I love going there and always happy to be there. So I think less matches in Croker could bring more joy and excitement to the sport and bring up attendance at games.
oakleafersir (Derry) - Posts:160 - 23/08/2016 17:53:09
I don't feel there is a better buzz in provincial grounds in most of them anyway. Thurles maybe an exception.
Less games in Croke Park wont happen. Which games do you want moved? How are the crowds more "ready and supportive". By what are you basing that on?

I also don't like the fact that you are not allowed to pitch invade in Croke Park , it just does not feel right your not allowed , you see your team win there first all Ireland ever your forced to stay off the pitch and it's also very memorable to be able to go out on the pitch and celebrate . Even if your team loses its still nice to still go out . One more thing I don't like is the fact they have that blue lining going over the first 4 layers of seats is also very annoying too .
oakleafersir (Derry) - Posts:160 - 23/08/2016 20:05:20
pitch invasions are messy and troublesome and one small slip/incident can cause tragedy so easily. The pitch should be for players and management to celebrate with their families in the immediate aftermath and not for some fat f*** full of pints running over to them to clap them on the shoulder. If you want to celebrate your teams win do it from the stand. You can meet the players any time in the next 12 months.
And pitch invasions cause significant issues with the surface of the pitch. It was the same with Connacht and the pitch invasion after the pro12 semi final back in April.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 23/08/2016 21:55:27    1905086

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I have to say our games with Dublin in Thurles and the Mayo game in Limerick were all extremely exciting with an amazing atmosphere, which is why I hope the new proposals come in so we can have more of these occasions around the country

If you don't get at least 60-65 thousand in the Blue Coliseum the atmosphere is nearly always flat and subdued

KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 23/08/2016 22:03:35    1905091

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Replying To ormondbannerman:  "know the is a good atmosphere in Croke Park but if your in the likes of Semple Stadium, Gaelic Grounds, Pearse Stadium, McHale Park, Celtic Park, Breffini Park , ETC ETC. I feel there is more of a buzz and a championship feeling in the air. The crouds are more ready and supportive, I was at both Killkenny and Waterford matches and the one in thules felt more exciting. I have been spread out around the country at matches and Croke Park isn't the same, yes I love going there and always happy to be there. So I think less matches in Croker could bring more joy and excitement to the sport and bring up attendance at games.
oakleafersir (Derry) - Posts:160 - 23/08/2016 17:53:09
I don't feel there is a better buzz in provincial grounds in most of them anyway. Thurles maybe an exception.
Less games in Croke Park wont happen. Which games do you want moved? How are the crowds more "ready and supportive". By what are you basing that on?

I also don't like the fact that you are not allowed to pitch invade in Croke Park , it just does not feel right your not allowed , you see your team win there first all Ireland ever your forced to stay off the pitch and it's also very memorable to be able to go out on the pitch and celebrate . Even if your team loses its still nice to still go out . One more thing I don't like is the fact they have that blue lining going over the first 4 layers of seats is also very annoying too .
oakleafersir (Derry) - Posts:160 - 23/08/2016 20:05:20
pitch invasions are messy and troublesome and one small slip/incident can cause tragedy so easily. The pitch should be for players and management to celebrate with their families in the immediate aftermath and not for some fat f*** full of pints running over to them to clap them on the shoulder. If you want to celebrate your teams win do it from the stand. You can meet the players any time in the next 12 months.
And pitch invasions cause significant issues with the surface of the pitch. It was the same with Connacht and the pitch invasion after the pro12 semi final back in April."
I think you'll find the perimeter fences erected to prevent the pitch invasions have caused more tragedy to be fair Ormond.

MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts: 2324 - 23/08/2016 22:55:43    1905118

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oakleafersir (Derry) -
always lovely to go on to pitch after game and have puck about with kids and see other dads/kids having puck around, most grounds let you do it - if you get a chance do it in thurles it would inspire you
Most people go on to the pitch in an orderly manner and there usually isnt a problem the players are delighted to mingle with the fans and are always very appreciative of the support. Was on pitch with kids in thurles after semi final and after munster final in gaelic grounds on wet day - neither pitch showed any sign of damage - was on pitch after 21s final last year - players hung around signing autographs getting pics taken , they seemed to enjoy it - pics with the cup -brilliant and no harm done. id say a concert could damage a pitch more, kids got to meet and greet some of the current tipp and kilkenny legends which living in limerick we dont see to often

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 24/08/2016 09:42:48    1905199

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ormondbannerman - The pitch should be for players and management to celebrate with their families in the immediate aftermath and not for some fat f*** full of pints running over to them to clap them on the shoulder.

Most people who go on to pitch do so in orderly manner and dont fit the above stereotype - i certainly dont

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 24/08/2016 09:44:07    1905201

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Anyone find their home league games have a better atmosphere than some championship games?

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11230 - 24/08/2016 09:58:39    1905209

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I think you'll find the perimeter fences erected to prevent the pitch invasions have caused more tragedy to be fair Ormond.
MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts:1348 - 23/08/2016 22:55:43
I never mentioned perimeter fences though.
Perimeter fences are only in some grounds and while they should be got rid of. Pitch invasions have to be stopped
always lovely to go on to pitch after game and have puck about with kids and see other dads/kids having puck around, most grounds let you do it - if you get a chance do it in thurles it would inspire you
Most people go on to the pitch in an orderly manner and there usually isnt a problem the players are delighted to mingle with the fans and are always very appreciative of the support. Was on pitch with kids in thurles after semi final and after munster final in gaelic grounds on wet day - neither pitch showed any sign of damage - was on pitch after 21s final last year - players hung around signing autographs getting pics taken , they seemed to enjoy it - pics with the cup -brilliant and no harm done. id say a concert could damage a pitch more, kids got to meet and greet some of the current tipp and kilkenny legends which living in limerick we dont see to often
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:572 - 24/08/2016 09:42:48
What gives you the right to go onto a pitch anyway? Just because some people do go on in an orderly fashion doesn't mean they deserve to. The end of a big game isn't the right time for a puck around and if you want to have a puck around you can do it at any time. Players can be appreciative of the support at times but there is too much of a chance for trouble and issues to arise.
Most people who go on to pitch do so in orderly manner and dont fit the above stereotype - i certainly dont
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:572 - 24/08/2016 09:44:07
Unfortunately too many do fit it and pitch invasions should be stopped due to risks involved.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 24/08/2016 11:27:49    1905249

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I think you'll find the perimeter fences erected to prevent the pitch invasions have caused more tragedy to be fair Ormond.
MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts:1348 - 23/08/2016 22:55:43
I never mentioned perimeter fences though.
Perimeter fences are only in some grounds and while they should be got rid of. Pitch invasions have to be stopped
always lovely to go on to pitch after game and have puck about with kids and see other dads/kids having puck around, most grounds let you do it - if you get a chance do it in thurles it would inspire you
Most people go on to the pitch in an orderly manner and there usually isnt a problem the players are delighted to mingle with the fans and are always very appreciative of the support. Was on pitch with kids in thurles after semi final and after munster final in gaelic grounds on wet day - neither pitch showed any sign of damage - was on pitch after 21s final last year - players hung around signing autographs getting pics taken , they seemed to enjoy it - pics with the cup -brilliant and no harm done. id say a concert could damage a pitch more, kids got to meet and greet some of the current tipp and kilkenny legends which living in limerick we dont see to often
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:572 - 24/08/2016 09:42:48
What gives you the right to go onto a pitch anyway? Just because some people do go on in an orderly fashion doesn't mean they deserve to. The end of a big game isn't the right time for a puck around and if you want to have a puck around you can do it at any time. Players can be appreciative of the support at times but there is too much of a chance for trouble and issues to arise.
Most people who go on to pitch do so in orderly manner and dont fit the above stereotype - i certainly dont
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:572 - 24/08/2016 09:44:07
Unfortunately too many do fit it and pitch invasions should be stopped due to risks involved.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 24/08/2016 11:27:59    1905250

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Replying To ormondbannerman:  "know the is a good atmosphere in Croke Park but if your in the likes of Semple Stadium, Gaelic Grounds, Pearse Stadium, McHale Park, Celtic Park, Breffini Park , ETC ETC. I feel there is more of a buzz and a championship feeling in the air. The crouds are more ready and supportive, I was at both Killkenny and Waterford matches and the one in thules felt more exciting. I have been spread out around the country at matches and Croke Park isn't the same, yes I love going there and always happy to be there. So I think less matches in Croker could bring more joy and excitement to the sport and bring up attendance at games.
oakleafersir (Derry) - Posts:160 - 23/08/2016 17:53:09
I don't feel there is a better buzz in provincial grounds in most of them anyway. Thurles maybe an exception.
Less games in Croke Park wont happen. Which games do you want moved? How are the crowds more "ready and supportive". By what are you basing that on?

I also don't like the fact that you are not allowed to pitch invade in Croke Park , it just does not feel right your not allowed , you see your team win there first all Ireland ever your forced to stay off the pitch and it's also very memorable to be able to go out on the pitch and celebrate . Even if your team loses its still nice to still go out . One more thing I don't like is the fact they have that blue lining going over the first 4 layers of seats is also very annoying too .
oakleafersir (Derry) - Posts:160 - 23/08/2016 20:05:20
pitch invasions are messy and troublesome and one small slip/incident can cause tragedy so easily. The pitch should be for players and management to celebrate with their families in the immediate aftermath and not for some fat f*** full of pints running over to them to clap them on the shoulder. If you want to celebrate your teams win do it from the stand. You can meet the players any time in the next 12 months.
And pitch invasions cause significant issues with the surface of the pitch. It was the same with Connacht and the pitch invasion after the pro12 semi final back in April."
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Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12118 - 24/08/2016 11:37:58    1905256

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Replying To ormondbannerman:  "I think you'll find the perimeter fences erected to prevent the pitch invasions have caused more tragedy to be fair Ormond.
MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts:1348 - 23/08/2016 22:55:43
I never mentioned perimeter fences though.
Perimeter fences are only in some grounds and while they should be got rid of. Pitch invasions have to be stopped
always lovely to go on to pitch after game and have puck about with kids and see other dads/kids having puck around, most grounds let you do it - if you get a chance do it in thurles it would inspire you
Most people go on to the pitch in an orderly manner and there usually isnt a problem the players are delighted to mingle with the fans and are always very appreciative of the support. Was on pitch with kids in thurles after semi final and after munster final in gaelic grounds on wet day - neither pitch showed any sign of damage - was on pitch after 21s final last year - players hung around signing autographs getting pics taken , they seemed to enjoy it - pics with the cup -brilliant and no harm done. id say a concert could damage a pitch more, kids got to meet and greet some of the current tipp and kilkenny legends which living in limerick we dont see to often
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:572 - 24/08/2016 09:42:48
What gives you the right to go onto a pitch anyway? Just because some people do go on in an orderly fashion doesn't mean they deserve to. The end of a big game isn't the right time for a puck around and if you want to have a puck around you can do it at any time. Players can be appreciative of the support at times but there is too much of a chance for trouble and issues to arise.
Most people who go on to pitch do so in orderly manner and dont fit the above stereotype - i certainly dont
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:572 - 24/08/2016 09:44:07
Unfortunately too many do fit it and pitch invasions should be stopped due to risks involved."
I know you didn't mention perimeter fences. I did because they are clearly a response to the issue of pitch invasions. To date, I haven't known anyone to die of a pitch invasion. Crushed against fences, tick. Burned alive in ramshackle wooden stands, tick. Critical condition induced by treading on a specific path of turf? Erm, no, must've missed that one.

I don't believe they need to be stopped, anyway. It's hardly a scourge on our society, is it? I don't believe in anyone entering the field of play while a game (of any description) is on, but afterwards, I see no major problem in that. Every time Gillingham play at home on the final day of the season we get the same old "police remind all spectators it is a criminal offence to enter the playing area", ,they make a big show of lining up the stewards in front of us for the final 10 minutes................then we go on anyway. Always have, always will. End of.

MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts: 2324 - 24/08/2016 11:42:30    1905261

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Ormondbannerman
What gives you the right to go onto a pitch anyway?
Why not its not illegal or hamful to anybody If in doubt i alway ask a steward and theres never a problem Look at any pitch after a GAA game - theres always kids playing about - it tradition its part of kids going to the game

The end of a big game isn't the right time for a puck around and if you want to have a puck around you can do it at any time.
Grand so please advise me when Semple stadium thurles is open to the public and i shall drive 1.5 hours for a puck around-

Fortunately most people do not match the above derogatory stereotype regarding obesity and drunkeness

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 24/08/2016 11:56:35    1905272

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medway - might be same in wexford but a lot of the top club GAA grounds in limerick have high wire perimeter fences ie ones used for county senior championship- , gaelic grounds does not - rugby and soccer clubs dont, they have railings the size you can lean on, once game over theyll let you on to pitch ---

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 24/08/2016 12:03:43    1905276

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