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Amidst all the talk of poor attendances, etc, is it just the fact that the product(s) are poor or do people now think that every match should be in their front garden? Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 16/08/2016 15:20:12 1901886 Link 1 |
Pinkie you probably hit the nail on the head "do people now think that every match should be in their front garden? no be they couldn't care less if its not. It surely is about balance with people picking what games to go to. I love going to Parnell Park or taking a spin down to Semple stadium. Cost to is probably a factor but there is little doubt if you have wall-to-wall GAA live games no way are you going to fill grounds.
arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4892 - 16/08/2016 15:45:53 1901906 Link 0 |
Post Celtic tiger means there's less disposable income for these things..
bricktop (Down) - Posts: 2503 - 16/08/2016 15:50:28 1901910 Link 0 |
People don't have the money anymore. Fermanagh played Wexford in a qualifier this year. From Irvinestown to Ennsicorthy it's nearly a 400 mile round trip. My car gets about 600 miles out of a tank of diesel so I would have to fill the car up and it costs me the guts of 60 euro to fill it, It's 20 euro into the game. So there's 80 euro straight away. Tolls also have to be paid, would more than likely have to eat out twice that day. By the time you get a decent bit and something to wash it down it could be anything from 10 to 20 Euro. So if you are eating out theres another 30 euro. Chances are you get a bottle of water or a cup of tea at the game and it's another few quid. You get a programme as well and its another few quid. So a trip to that game for a single man could have cost around 150 euro. Now add in a wife or some kids and watch the cost go through the roof. There's a reason people aren't going to games as much and it has nothing to do with whats on offer, people just can not afford it. gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 16/08/2016 16:12:22 1901929 Link 3 |
I agree. Although efforts need to be made to stop fans being fleeced at every turn when they decide to go to a match, which is the current ethos at play. TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 16/08/2016 16:17:26 1901935 Link 0 |
Agreed. Grand if your near Dublin and have a decent wage.I'm a student with no work for the summer so a trip to croker is a serious challenge on the pocket. 20-30 pounds down on the bus depending on how man the bus can hold.The last ticket for the game against Mayo was I think 40 euro ,food for the day up there you'd want atleast twice , another 15-25 euro for food. Won't find a pint anywhere for under 5 euro around the ground or in it .So that could be 90-105 euro before I even have a pint.Throw in six or seven of them and it up near the 150. At lot easier for a Dub I think.Just pay for your ticket.Have grub at home , a can or two before leaving , a pint before and a few after and the day only comes to around sixty euro.If your from the likes of Kerry or Mayo well then thats a whole different story.They're so far in them parts ya would want a hotel for the night..and petrol would be a killer.
GameOfTyrones (Tyrone) - Posts: 469 - 16/08/2016 17:55:35 1901990 Link 1 |
they had a clip on rte a few weeks back of clare v kerry in the munster final in 93 i think was it.......GG in limerick packed out, 30,000 or so at it......clare fans in their droves Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 16/08/2016 18:59:44 1902005 Link 0 |
There's another reason for that too. What happened in the 1992 championship?
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 16/08/2016 19:48:00 1902014 Link 0 |
Pinkie, personal circumstances come into it massively. I've two kids under 3, work full time and am doing a 2 year masters on top of that. At the moment I'm very lucky to get the time to watch GAA on TV at all, never mind going to a match. I went to last year's County Final. Wicklowman (Wicklow) - Posts: 1135 - 16/08/2016 21:20:33 1902036 Link 0 |
Brought the boots looking for the medal, was it?
Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 16/08/2016 21:44:34 1902042 Link 0 |
Ah you know yourself llaw!
Wicklowman (Wicklow) - Posts: 1135 - 16/08/2016 22:02:24 1902049 Link 0 |
Gameofthrones hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 16/08/2016 23:01:58 1902074 Link 0 |
It's expensive to go to matches but its impact is overstated in my opinion. People think nothing of spending hundreds of euros getting p*ssed every weekend. Tens of thousands of gobdaws thought nothing of spending THOUSANDS travelling to see an absolutely horrific Irish soccer team in Euro 2012 (they were a bit better this year but still wouldn't spend that much on them). The money's out there. Gaa doesn't mean as much to people anymore. I know it's a cliche but it's like the catholic church and fianna fail - there'll always be the hardcore support but not the massive following of years gone by. ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 16/08/2016 23:28:01 1902079 Link 1 |
There's a couple of reasons many of which others have spoken about cost of travelling to a game by the time you add everything up etc etc. tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1304 - 17/08/2016 10:00:49 1902119 Link 0 |
not sure....................?? Maybe it was it was the 92 munster final, i am not sure. its the time clare beat them anyways whats your point? Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 17/08/2016 10:22:34 1902124 Link 0 |
his point (i'm guessing) is that in 93 it would have been deemed a competitive fixture, Clare having beaten Kerry a year previous would have turned up in the hope of a repeat performance, Kerry fans would have had revenge in mind. They played twice this year and both games were horrendously one-sided. Hence the diminishing interest. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4978 - 17/08/2016 10:27:03 1902127 Link 0 |
30,000 was a very poor crowd at the Waterford-Kilkenny replay in Thurles last Saturday night. In the heartland of the "hurling counties", I'm amazed there weren't more neutrals there. Surely this game should have been attracting 45-50,000? football first (None) - Posts: 1259 - 17/08/2016 10:48:33 1902151 Link 0 |
Bingo!!! People want to see competitive games.
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 17/08/2016 11:15:24 1902178 Link 0 |
The price of tickets and travel ie food and fuel is a major factor, another is population dispersion, in my area which is rural we could easily have brought an army of young and old to matches but today the old are older and don't travel as much, our young are in Australia, England and America and would really only come home if we reach an All Ireland Final, but the biggest incentive to attend games is success, the season ticket system is extremely good at getting attendances up, it mostly the sunshine supporters or club personal that aren't attending games unless its a final, if all tickets were season tickets then you will either have full houses or completely empty and as a direct consequence of season ticket money it means more money for your county and over time your county team can afford the top trainers and personal and challenge for Sam and Liam, buy the season tickets and support your team through the good times and bad riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 17/08/2016 11:23:29 1902183 Link 0 |
People follow success also. Comparing now to the 90s is stupid. The 90s was just unbelievable in terms of having a number of teams in both codes brings home the big one. 8 different counties won Sam in the 90s with 3 other teams reaching the final. 6 different teams win Liam, with Limerick and Galway also getting to finals. No wonder games were packed, there were an unprecedented number of fans going into the championship harbouring hopes of going all the way. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4172 - 17/08/2016 14:53:58 1902316 Link 0 |