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There has been 3 brilliant matches in the semi finals , Waterford and Killkenny had 2 classic matches and Killkenny just came out short in the replay when Waterford deserves one more match . And Galway vs Tipp was a brilliant match , and people wanted a Galway vs Waterford final . But a third place play off would be perfect . oakleafersir (Derry) - Posts: 808 - 14/08/2016 17:11:39 1900841 Link
Replying To oakleafersir: "There has been 3 brilliant matches in the semi finals , Waterford and Killkenny had 2 classic matches and Killkenny just came out short in the replay when Waterford deserves one more match . And Galway vs Tipp was a brilliant match , and people wanted a Galway vs Waterford final . But a third place play off would be perfect ." Ah no. There's absolutely no appetite for anything like that. It's not the Olympics where you've been watching the women's sevens or women's tennis playing off for bronze! Waterford and Galway club championships will be in full swing in a few weeks. It's the nature of championship for us all. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7824 - 14/08/2016 17:39:33 1900859 Link
No, wouldn't work with our games, there's no great honour in finishing 3rd, or even winning the league, so pointless. realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8586 - 14/08/2016 18:41:14 1900895 Link
Replying To realdub: "No, wouldn't work with our games, there's no great honour in finishing 3rd, or even winning the league, so pointless." It was good for Waterford and Clare to win the league in hurling. It depends where teams are coming from. Back on '97 it was good us to win the league before ending the famine later that year. A league in the last few years wouldn't have done Mayo any harm. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7824 - 14/08/2016 19:20:03 1900924 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "It was good for Waterford and Clare to win the league in hurling. It depends where teams are coming from. Back on '97 it was good us to win the league before ending the famine later that year. A league in the last few years wouldn't have done Mayo any harm." Yes it was good for the teams you mentioned, it is even good for us, but where was the glory, unless I missed stories of wild celebrations... realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8586 - 14/08/2016 22:29:57 1901030 Link
What a load of baloney. Finishing 3rd in the championship means nothing and it would be as pointless as the 3rd place playoff in the World Cup. The players,management or fans wouldn't want it to happen as its just a pointless match. uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 14/08/2016 23:04:12 1901049 Link
Can't imagine any man from Waterford or galway wud b bothered ! rossy15 (Roscommon) - Posts: 616 - 14/08/2016 23:07:50 1901051 Link
Replying To realdub: "Yes it was good for the teams you mentioned, it is even good for us, but where was the glory, unless I missed stories of wild celebrations..." I remember walking out of the Gaelic Grounds with my Dad in 2004 after we beat Galway in the League final and seeing Dara O'Cinneade throwing the League Cup into the boot of his car. That was about all the ceremony Kerry gave winning the thing. The League is the second competition and for us anyway its only a means of testing out things and developing players. I think many counties feel the same. If the League is thought of in those terms then I can only imagine how poorly a third place play off would be thought of. As Legend says, there's little chance competing counties would want it or take it seriously when they would be needing to plough on with their club championships etc. I'd also imagine a lot of players would make sure to make themselves unavailable for it even if their own clubs had nothing to play for back home at that point. When you think about it the GAA is sort of strange in that the mentality seems to be win it outright or bust, even among the weakest counties. Just look at how little enthusiasm there is for the concept of a B championship for example, even among counties with no chance of winning the All-Ireland. There's no enthusiasm for anything short of the main event. I understand the desire to have more games like the 3 great Semi's we had these past 7 days but don't think some third place play off is the answer. TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 14/08/2016 23:41:31 1901060 Link
Replying To realdub: "No, wouldn't work with our games, there's no great honour in finishing 3rd, or even winning the league, so pointless." Nah pointless.You really think Tipp,Kilkenny ,Waterford ,Clare,Galway would care about finishing third. Then imagine it in the football.If Mayo lost a semi then being forced to play a silly game of bronze medal when all they dream of is winning the thing.Or the Dubs winning it every second year , they couldn't careless.Maybe teams like Tipperary in the football wouldn't mind a third place play off but for everyone else it would be rubbing salt in the wounds both football and hurling GameOfTyrones (Tyrone) - Posts: 469 - 15/08/2016 11:36:03 1901183 Link
Quite possibly the worst idea I've ever seen on this forum and that's saying something. ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 15/08/2016 12:05:42 1901201 Link
Replying To ballydalane: "Quite possibly the worst idea I've ever seen on this forum and that's saying something." Agreed.Terrible idea. endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2156 - 15/08/2016 12:36:02 1901223 Link
Replying To ballydalane: "Quite possibly the worst idea I've ever seen on this forum and that's saying something." Never argue with a Kilkenny man on a hurling topic!!agreed!! WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 15/08/2016 18:01:50 1901429 Link
Replying To ballydalane: "Quite possibly the worst idea I've ever seen on this forum and that's saying something." Banned dcfc here. Agree but if you look at his/her other posts the are nonsensical and appear to me nothing more than a cry for attention. ilovespuds (Meath) - Posts: 35 - 15/08/2016 18:40:26 1901452 Link
I'd say if the GAA ever arranged one, the 2 teams would just mutually agree not to play and go ahead with club games that weekend. 3rd place playoffs are rare enough in team sports. Usually they're in tournaments (like the rugby or soccer world cups, or the olympics) in order to squeeze a few more events out while the players/athletes are in the host country. Not many club soccer or rugby competitions have a third place playoff. They tried one in the FA cup and European championships, but they got dropped in the 70s after nobody cared. CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1643 - 15/08/2016 19:20:38 1901465 Link
The GAA tried medal presentations after the All-Ireland final one year. Presentation of the cup on a podium in the middle of the field as well. Some traditions hold strong. Even them with their association football across the water present cups in the stands. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7824 - 15/08/2016 19:57:09 1901477 Link
Surprised the Gaa havent tried it already..................seeing as they will do anything for money. Another game they could sell to Sky Sports. Rayo (Galway) - Posts: 90 - 15/08/2016 20:07:17 1901485 Link
It is daft indeed. We should instead have a knock out, cup style championship. Though we have only 7/8 teams that were ever capable of reaching a decent standard, we should subdivide the championship into two (uneven) regional knockout out competitions. To make things simple, teams from other regions are allowed to enter of the two regions' championship even if said team comes from a region with a championship of its own. To add some spice to this knockout competition, we should add a mini-league at the start - kind of like the Champions League but not for all teams-just a few random shite teams. Obviously, it's a knock out competition which means that all the teams get another go. It would be a great little competition. Completely daft to complicate matters with a third place playoff. bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 15/08/2016 22:00:35 1901516 Link
In the 1970,s after all Ireland final the four semi finalist would play off in another competition I attended 1973 final Offaly v Tyrone. Now that was pointless. Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1780 - 16/08/2016 07:37:34 1901572 Link
No chance this would be of any real interest to fans or more importantly the players. Nothing match really and after the disappointment of loosing out on final place. They would have far better things to be doing with themselves this time of year. Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 16/08/2016 08:10:53 1901575 Link
Replying To Byanthon: "In the 1970,s after all Ireland final the four semi finalist would play off in another competition I attended 1973 final Offaly v Tyrone. Now that was pointless." It was called the grounds tournament that time if I remember. Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 16/08/2016 08:49:35 1901584 Link