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A closed fist to jaw = yellow. An open hand to the stomach = straight red!!! Lads!!

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 06/08/2016 19:50:05    1896811

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Replying To Liamwalkinstown:  "A closed fist to jaw = yellow. An open hand to the stomach = straight red!!! Lads!!"
I agree to an extent but it's worth pointing out the first was on a player carrying the ball, the second on a players 50 yards from the ball.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 06/08/2016 21:43:35    1896943

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Donegal's systematic targeting and sledging of Dublin players today was shocking but we won out in the end. I understand the win at all costs mentality but the targeting of Connolly and O'Gara today was something to witness, will not have been caught on TV. I've lost some respect for what was a decent group of players at one stage. How Murphy, a great player if he could lose the dark element of his game, stayed on the pitch I don't know. I know he must be frustrated playing that brand of football but he needs to control his aggression. Not sure how many points Donegal got from play but couldn't have been many. A good tough game for the Dubs and let's hope we see a football match in the semis. Well done Paul Mannion on scoring one of the goals of the season.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 06/08/2016 22:25:28    1896986

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Man trying to get ball and being overly physical v man 50 yards from ball striking an opponent Are not comparable

ruanua (Donegal) - Posts: 4966 - 06/08/2016 22:52:22    1897004

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Replying To Joxer:  "Donegal's systematic targeting and sledging of Dublin players today was shocking but we won out in the end. I understand the win at all costs mentality but the targeting of Connolly and O'Gara today was something to witness, will not have been caught on TV. I've lost some respect for what was a decent group of players at one stage. How Murphy, a great player if he could lose the dark element of his game, stayed on the pitch I don't know. I know he must be frustrated playing that brand of football but he needs to control his aggression. Not sure how many points Donegal got from play but couldn't have been many. A good tough game for the Dubs and let's hope we see a football match in the semis. Well done Paul Mannion on scoring one of the goals of the season."
your attitude and bias doesnt do anything for dublin supporters reputations..what connolly and o gara did was silly and stupid...and our cynical fouling was no different to anybody else..we have a great team and a lot of things going for us but i hate us trying to pretend like were angels or playing the right way..part of why we are so successful is that bit of divilment we lacked previously

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 07/08/2016 01:37:28    1897087

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Replying To ruanua:  "Man trying to get ball and being overly physical v man 50 yards from ball striking an opponent Are not comparable"
Murphy's fist was a yard away from the ball i.e. not ever getting close to it.

O'Gara patted McGee's belly.

Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 382 - 07/08/2016 03:06:24    1897108

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Replying To ruanua:  "Man trying to get ball and being overly physical v man 50 yards from ball striking an opponent Are not comparable"
True indeed. One led to what looks like a broken jaw and the other to a fit of the giggles resulting from the deliberate tummy tickle.

Actually, not true at all. The rule book does not make a distinction between striking a player who has the ball or one who doesn't have the ball. By the letter of the law Murphy's strike is much much worse, being made with a closed fist to the head versus an open handed slap to the stomach.

Its because people don't actually know the rules that extremely dangerous tackles to the head of a player in possession of the ball appears to be much more acceptable generally because it can be "pretended" that dispossession is a mitigating factor.

Beacaire Gorm (Dublin) - Posts: 597 - 07/08/2016 03:34:10    1897116

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Replying To Joxer:  "Donegal's systematic targeting and sledging of Dublin players today was shocking but we won out in the end. I understand the win at all costs mentality but the targeting of Connolly and O'Gara today was something to witness, will not have been caught on TV. I've lost some respect for what was a decent group of players at one stage. How Murphy, a great player if he could lose the dark element of his game, stayed on the pitch I don't know. I know he must be frustrated playing that brand of football but he needs to control his aggression. Not sure how many points Donegal got from play but couldn't have been many. A good tough game for the Dubs and let's hope we see a football match in the semis. Well done Paul Mannion on scoring one of the goals of the season."
That is a joke right ?

Are you for serious ?

The targeting of the McHughs was a disgrace and sledging ?

Don't make me laugh

TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 07/08/2016 05:14:53    1897119

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Replying To ruanua:  "Man trying to get ball and being overly physical v man 50 yards from ball striking an opponent Are not comparable"
Your correct, murphy should have seen red and o gara yellow,

Adamski (Dublin) - Posts: 339 - 07/08/2016 07:21:25    1897124

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Replying To Joxer:  "Donegal's systematic targeting and sledging of Dublin players today was shocking but we won out in the end. I understand the win at all costs mentality but the targeting of Connolly and O'Gara today was something to witness, will not have been caught on TV. I've lost some respect for what was a decent group of players at one stage. How Murphy, a great player if he could lose the dark element of his game, stayed on the pitch I don't know. I know he must be frustrated playing that brand of football but he needs to control his aggression. Not sure how many points Donegal got from play but couldn't have been many. A good tough game for the Dubs and let's hope we see a football match in the semis. Well done Paul Mannion on scoring one of the goals of the season."
Connolly could have 4 yellows in total most of them for late hits on Ryan McHugh -

ruanua (Donegal) - Posts: 4966 - 07/08/2016 09:12:51    1897146

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Replying To Soma:  "I agree to an extent but it's worth pointing out the first was on a player carrying the ball, the second on a players 50 yards from the ball."
So if you have the ball , a closed fist to the jaw is somehow OK , Is that your point ?
If so ,I presume you are suggesting MM was attempting to tackle the ball which is redicioulous .

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 07/08/2016 09:27:16    1897156

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Laughable from some of the Donegal fellas here almost trying to justify the 'treatment' dished out to Connolly. I was sitting around halfway where most of the abuse was dished out. Within 5 mins of throw Connolly had received a punch, the jersey nearly ripped off his back and more trash talk then Larry Bird would dish out in a NBA season. It was ridiculous. Then Murphy joined in in the second half. He shouldn't have been on the pitch anyway. Unfortunately Connolly reacted which was all part of Gallagher's game. Still we won out which is all that matters.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 07/08/2016 09:48:28    1897161

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Replying To alano12:  "your attitude and bias doesnt do anything for dublin supporters reputations..what connolly and o gara did was silly and stupid...and our cynical fouling was no different to anybody else..we have a great team and a lot of things going for us but i hate us trying to pretend like were angels or playing the right way..part of why we are so successful is that bit of divilment we lacked previously"
Fair play to you Alano and best of luck in the next round .

TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 07/08/2016 10:07:32    1897171

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Murphy certainly could have gotten a red card as his challenge was reckless and dangerous. I don't think he could have complained had he been shown a red card.

O'Gara was unlucky and will have his red card rescinded.

These things happen.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13705 - 07/08/2016 10:11:31    1897174

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I watched Neil McGee as soon as O'Gara came on he started dragging, pulling and tripping him. What bugs me about this incident was the umpires obviously told the ref that O'Gara hit him a dig which he clearly didn't.

Murphys was a red card I don't see how that could be defended a closed fist to the face that was a cheap shot from murphy.

jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 07/08/2016 10:17:11    1897178

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Alano, who's pretending that we're angels? I've no problem calling out any Dublin player for dirty tactics whether that be biting, off the ball digs, sledging or whatever but let's not all be hands around the world about Donegal's tactics on Connolly yesterday either just because we won. It has to be called out. He was targeted and to a level that I haven't seen before. It doesn't really matter at this stage in the context of our progress because we won out but something needs to be done anout it. Lee Keegan seems to have mastered this art also.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 07/08/2016 10:32:46    1897191

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It's going on all over the pitch. You are only talking about Connolly and O'Gara because they both reacted. The 2 McHughs were being sledged and their runs body checked all night. McManaman was in Ryan's ear most of the night. Dublin knew the players to target too. Part of the game, rightly or wrongly.

benjyyy (Donegal) - Posts: 1422 - 07/08/2016 10:57:06    1897209

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Replying To Joxer:  "Donegal's systematic targeting and sledging of Dublin players today was shocking but we won out in the end. I understand the win at all costs mentality but the targeting of Connolly and O'Gara today was something to witness, will not have been caught on TV. I've lost some respect for what was a decent group of players at one stage. How Murphy, a great player if he could lose the dark element of his game, stayed on the pitch I don't know. I know he must be frustrated playing that brand of football but he needs to control his aggression. Not sure how many points Donegal got from play but couldn't have been many. A good tough game for the Dubs and let's hope we see a football match in the semis. Well done Paul Mannion on scoring one of the goals of the season."
They scored 1-2 from play.

CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 07/08/2016 11:02:56    1897214

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Replying To Joxer:  "Alano, who's pretending that we're angels? I've no problem calling out any Dublin player for dirty tactics whether that be biting, off the ball digs, sledging or whatever but let's not all be hands around the world about Donegal's tactics on Connolly yesterday either just because we won. It has to be called out. He was targeted and to a level that I haven't seen before. It doesn't really matter at this stage in the context of our progress because we won out but something needs to be done anout it. Lee Keegan seems to have mastered this art also."
Joxer Connolly got the same treatment yesterday that MM, AOS, Ryan Mc Hugh, Diarmuid O Connor et al get in most games.

Watch the game again and take a look at Philly acrtions during the game.

But you do have a sound point underneath it all.
There needs to be more retrospective action taking against players who dish out special treatment to oppoistion players.

On another note. His two points from both feet were a joy to behold.

DLlegends (Donegal) - Posts: 503 - 07/08/2016 11:11:51    1897219

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murphy and donaghy are two players who get away with this all year.
i seen plenty occasions both players come in with high tackles with fist closed and yellow is most they recieve.
the problem with o gara is that he gets so much attention off the ball and the umpires never bring it to the attention of the ref to card them.
he came on against laois and the entire time the ball was nowhere near him the laois player had his hands on him or pushing him or holding him while he was mouthing at him. theres a black card there for verbally abusing a player why the umpires refuse to go by that rule is very poor.
o gara card should be rescinded as the ref when sending him off signalled a closed fist under arm punch, which was clearly not what he did so therefore the umpire informed the ref incorrectly of the incident that took place meaning he sent him off for the wrong reason.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 07/08/2016 11:30:11    1897231

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