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Didn't realise that players went in such numbers. Wonder how it fairs out over all counties ? http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/sport/212172/mass-exodus-of-limerick-hurling-and-football-stars-to-america.html derrymore (Kerry) - Posts: 180 - 01/08/2016 15:12:04 1893546 Link
Listening to the words of Niall Carew urging the GAA to do something about lads being approached to come to America made me laugh. I'm sorry but they are amateur players who are entitled to go where they want. If the likes of Rory McIlroy can pick and chose when he wants to perform and he's a pro earning a fortune, what right has anyone to tell a GAA player he's forbidden from travelling to the states until his team don't need him anymore? Yes it can be frustrating for managers but these lads are only young once and pressure or guilt trips from managers over things like this shows a real lack of class in my opinion. Maybe players who have the notion to travel could tell their coach in a timely fashion so he has adequate time to find a replacement but bringing in bans from hq is a suggestion that belongs in the Biblical times! SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 01/08/2016 16:24:29 1893589 Link
Replying To SaffronDon: "Listening to the words of Niall Carew urging the GAA to do something about lads being approached to come to America made me laugh. I'm sorry but they are amateur players who are entitled to go where they want. If the likes of Rory McIlroy can pick and chose when he wants to perform and he's a pro earning a fortune, what right has anyone to tell a GAA player he's forbidden from travelling to the states until his team don't need him anymore? Yes it can be frustrating for managers but these lads are only young once and pressure or guilt trips from managers over things like this shows a real lack of class in my opinion. Maybe players who have the notion to travel could tell their coach in a timely fashion so he has adequate time to find a replacement but bringing in bans from hq is a suggestion that belongs in the Biblical times!" Problem I have is that the club can prevent you from playing for another club in your county but they allow you leave the country and get paid to play for the club in the states. Should be same time for all. cost a lot of people to leave the sport from my experience hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 01/08/2016 20:39:27 1893744 Link
anybody know who has left for the states, going to affect county championships coz we gotta another round weekend of 20th janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 02/08/2016 12:50:38 1893992 Link
Replying To janesboro: "anybody know who has left for the states, going to affect county championships coz we gotta another round weekend of 20th" The list of players gone are available on the GAA.ie website. Found this by accident. 4 categories to choose from. http://www.gaa.ie/the-gaa/rules-regulations/overseas-sanctions derrymore (Kerry) - Posts: 180 - 03/08/2016 23:21:57 1895117 Link
derrymore (Kerry) thank you - at least 12 of our starting u21 all ireland winners over in the usa- big impact on local county championship -but hope they enjoy themselves over there janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 04/08/2016 09:09:49 1895163 Link
Replying To SaffronDon: "Listening to the words of Niall Carew urging the GAA to do something about lads being approached to come to America made me laugh. I'm sorry but they are amateur players who are entitled to go where they want. If the likes of Rory McIlroy can pick and chose when he wants to perform and he's a pro earning a fortune, what right has anyone to tell a GAA player he's forbidden from travelling to the states until his team don't need him anymore? Yes it can be frustrating for managers but these lads are only young once and pressure or guilt trips from managers over things like this shows a real lack of class in my opinion. Maybe players who have the notion to travel could tell their coach in a timely fashion so he has adequate time to find a replacement but bringing in bans from hq is a suggestion that belongs in the Biblical times!" Excuse me but could you point out where people are saying they should be forbidden? Ive heard lots of people say theyd prefer if they didnt go but havent heard anyone say they should be forbidden. At a time when emigration is ravaging so many clubs I think the Gaa shoudl do whatever they can to keep these guys home. No ones saying these young lads should be tied up like. joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 06/08/2016 15:20:07 1896608 Link
Replying To joncarter: "Excuse me but could you point out where people are saying they should be forbidden? Ive heard lots of people say theyd prefer if they didnt go but havent heard anyone say they should be forbidden. At a time when emigration is ravaging so many clubs I think the Gaa shoudl do whatever they can to keep these guys home. No ones saying these young lads should be tied up like." excuse yourself and read the whole sentence again, not just one word from it! Maybe you should look at why people are immigrating instead of thinking what's best for this or that team. Unless the GAA are paying players a living its none of their business who comes and goes from the game and frankly, no one else's either. I would have thought that was pretty simple to grasp... SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 06/08/2016 20:37:17 1896874 Link
Again, a manager cannot "forbid" a player from leaving for the states if he so wishes, and again, with emigration ravaging so many clubs, I really dont see how carews comments can be seen as "laughable". I agree with him. Im assuming hes not talking about stoppin players from leaving (whats he gonna do, break into their homes and steal their passports?). Maybe hes referring to the GAA helping to sort out jobs for these young lads here in ireland so they wont have to emigrate. That type of thing. joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 06/08/2016 20:58:19 1896896 Link
Replying To joncarter: "Again, a manager cannot "forbid" a player from leaving for the states if he so wishes, and again, with emigration ravaging so many clubs, I really dont see how carews comments can be seen as "laughable". I agree with him. Im assuming hes not talking about stoppin players from leaving (whats he gonna do, break into their homes and steal their passports?). Maybe hes referring to the GAA helping to sort out jobs for these young lads here in ireland so they wont have to emigrate. That type of thing." From my understanding Carew wants players 'banned' from playing Stateside, so take from that what you will... its a challenge for many clubs and counties, but actions speak louder than words and until there is evidence that the GAA are supporting and giving back to the people who bring in the bulk of their revenue then they know what they can do. SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 06/08/2016 21:18:19 1896913 Link
Replying To SaffronDon: "From my understanding Carew wants players 'banned' from playing Stateside, so take from that what you will... its a challenge for many clubs and counties, but actions speak louder than words and until there is evidence that the GAA are supporting and giving back to the people who bring in the bulk of their revenue then they know what they can do." Well ill agree that its out of order for him to want to ban players from playing in the states. Still though, it must be frustrating seeing your players being poached like that. joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 06/08/2016 21:28:31 1896920 Link
I would agree with Saffron Don. I actively encourage every player I meet to go to the states, London or Oz and play Gaelic games at some point in their life. Club players here get shat upon by the GAA. Anyway, let us not exaggerate the issue. These players get 30 day sanctions to play there. Most will be back in a month. They are going on a holiday. The Limerick County final won't be played until October so the vast majority will be back before the serious games. bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 06/08/2016 22:52:13 1897003 Link
sure why wouldn't they,when the gaa only goes to the clubs when they have extracted what they can out of the inter county game or they need to sell tickets? perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 08/08/2016 08:37:45 1897798 Link
bennybunny is right - its just and extended holiday for these lads, lot of them were involved with 21s up to september and were part of minor teams that competed up to august in 2013 and september in 2014 so they are due a bit of slack, hopefully the enjoy the trip and come back with revewed vigour and enthusiasm janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 08/08/2016 09:36:27 1897820 Link