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This is the game will all be watching to find out who plays who. I'm convinced Donegal will win but as posters have said you just never know with Cork and how much has that Tyrone defeat hurt Donegal mentally and physically. Thoughts?

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 25/07/2016 11:03:32    1889577

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "This is the game will all be watching to find out who plays who. I'm convinced Donegal will win but as posters have said you just never know with Cork and how much has that Tyrone defeat hurt Donegal mentally and physically. Thoughts?"
I think if Cork setup to really make it difficult for Donegal and play a very similar game plan to them that Donegal will struggle

Cork deployed a very defensive setup against Dublin in CP during the league and it worked well for them

Another similar performance and they could cause all sorts of trouble for Donegal

There is no doubting that Cork really do have some serious quality in that squad and they are on an upward curve at present

Donegal will be favourites, so it's tailor made for a big Cork performance

Whether or not that's good enough remains to be seen...

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 25/07/2016 12:02:24    1889613

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It's hard to say and I'd agree that a lot of neutrals will probably take an interest in this. Cork have some very gifted footballers who on their day can cause any teams trouble. They probably should have beaten Kerry in Killarney in last year's Munster final for example. Everyone knows the quality of their forwards individually. But O'Driscoll (?) and Loughrey are quality wing backs also. Throw Aidan Walsh and the Cadogans into the mix and you have the nucleus of a very decent side. The trouble has always been maximizing all that potential.

It's hard to say where we're at at the moment as well. The Ulster final loss was a sickener but thankfully we've had 2 weeks to recover. I'd have been very wary if we had the dreaded 6 day turnaround. I think they key will be variation in our play. I don't think Cork would be as tactically disciplined as Tyrone were, but still we looked very one dimensional against them. A bit of variety in our attacking play would be nice to see as well as one or two of the younger lads introduced, maybe Ciaran Thompson and Eoghan Ban.

I'd give us a hesitant nod to progress by 2 or 3 points.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9135 - 25/07/2016 12:24:59    1889632

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well this is a very interesting game
to see if cork are recovering from their poor form
and reaching some part of their undoubted potential
or are Donegal on the slide with all the milage in those legs
and the negative style they play
can cork beat it
and is the standard in ulster slipping
which looking at results so far seem to indicate

rhudson (Galway) - Posts: 1478 - 25/07/2016 12:33:25    1889640

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I have no doubt Dublin will be hoping that Cork win, approaching this game more in hope really, we won't know how the Ulster final loss has impacted on us till the game is in the melting pot,
Think we will just shade it by a point or two.

TirChonaillabu2 (Donegal) - Posts: 344 - 25/07/2016 13:52:25    1889702

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Replying To TirChonaillabu2:  "I have no doubt Dublin will be hoping that Cork win, approaching this game more in hope really, we won't know how the Ulster final loss has impacted on us till the game is in the melting pot,
Think we will just shade it by a point or two."
I hope Donegal win

Much better motivation for this Dublin team to play Donegal

And that's something Dublin thrive off at this stage after already accomplishing so much

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 25/07/2016 14:25:33    1889744

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We have a good chance I believe. We are not terrible. We are inconsistent so you don't know. It would be great to win and then play Dublin. In football, you want to play real championship games against Donegal, Dublin, Kerry, Tyrone, Mayo etc (not being intentionally disrespectful to anybody else). You know where you are when you play them. If we get hammered then so be it, it will copper fasten most people's opinion of us. If we show some guts and play to our strengths then we can win and maybe change people's minds. I am excited about at least. This is proper GAA championship so we give it a right bash and I would love it if we won.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 25/07/2016 15:18:54    1889788

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Replying To TirChonaillabu2:  "I have no doubt Dublin will be hoping that Cork win, approaching this game more in hope really, we won't know how the Ulster final loss has impacted on us till the game is in the melting pot,
Think we will just shade it by a point or two."
U have no doubt Dublin would want cork to win?? Is dat a joke, bar 2014 dublin have a good record against dat negative shower, bring dem on

mightydubs (Dublin) - Posts: 48 - 25/07/2016 15:23:48    1889792

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Replying To TirChonaillabu2:  "I have no doubt Dublin will be hoping that Cork win, approaching this game more in hope really, we won't know how the Ulster final loss has impacted on us till the game is in the melting pot,
Think we will just shade it by a point or two."
The Dubs won't care who the play in the next stage. If Donegal continue the one dimensional play with Paddy McB isolated inside the Dubs will beat Donegal handy enough.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 25/07/2016 17:44:17    1889912

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Replying To TirChonaillabu2:  "I have no doubt Dublin will be hoping that Cork win, approaching this game more in hope really, we won't know how the Ulster final loss has impacted on us till the game is in the melting pot,
Think we will just shade it by a point or two."
Look lads it's 2016, it's not 2014. Get over 2014 it's about as useful as a chocolate fire guard at this point.

The willing acceptance to never ever mention that final between Donegal fans is astounding

Seansy48 (Tyrone) - Posts: 237 - 25/07/2016 18:35:21    1889941

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If we play the same rubbish we played in the Ulster Final then Cork will and should beat us. That crap in the second half v Tyrone doesn't warrant any success.
However, if we play to the strengths that this current team have and use the bench properly then we have a great chance of beating Cork. We have some very talented footballers in Ryan Mc Hugh, Odhran Mac Neilis and Frank Mc Glynn. If we can also get the transition to the forward line quicker then Paddy Mc Brearty and Murphy (If allowed up the field) can do damage to even the best of defences.
I really don't have a clue on how it will pan out but when we play Cork it is always an enjoyable game. The 2012 semi final was a clinker of a game and even though we got a pasting against Cork on the day Michael Murphy came of age in 2009 I really enjoyed that game also. At least we have a chance to wipe the despair of the Ulster Final performance from the supporters minds. I hope we take it.

Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1671 - 25/07/2016 19:15:27    1889963

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Why would we hope Cork win? If we knew we play Cork next yes I'd agree but if Cork win we could end up playing Mayo and not that we're afraid of anyone id rather play Donegal leave Mayo for Tyrone to deal with. I keep hearing Cork have all these talented players but Hurley is out injured and yes O Neill and Kerrigan are very good players but after that there's no one to really frighten you imo. Again it's Donegal for me by 5 or 6.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 25/07/2016 19:19:38    1889966

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I think the two week break can make the difference. If Donegal go for it and make better use of Murphy they should win by two points.

Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1780 - 25/07/2016 20:13:16    1889987

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Why would we hope Cork win? If we knew we play Cork next yes I'd agree but if Cork win we could end up playing Mayo and not that we're afraid of anyone id rather play Donegal leave Mayo for Tyrone to deal with. I keep hearing Cork have all these talented players but Hurley is out injured and yes O Neill and Kerrigan are very good players but after that there's no one to really frighten you imo. Again it's Donegal for me by 5 or 6."
Hurley is a big loss to us (many will say he has never really shone at the top level). Patrick Kelly looks like he has recovered some form after a long injury spell. In my opinion guys like Peter Kelleher, Sean White, Ian Maguire, Sean Powter are also very good footballers. I doubt they are on your radar (or anyone outside of Cork really). Why would they be? Who takes a team serious when they have the results we have had. Hopefully our management can get the best out of these guys and get people to take notice.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 25/07/2016 20:30:38    1889994

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Cork have a terrible mentality and they are the biggest under-achievers in the country,anything is possible,but Donegal are everything Cork people would wish they would be.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 25/07/2016 20:48:52    1890005

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Replying To bennybunny:  "Hurley is a big loss to us (many will say he has never really shone at the top level). Patrick Kelly looks like he has recovered some form after a long injury spell. In my opinion guys like Peter Kelleher, Sean White, Ian Maguire, Sean Powter are also very good footballers. I doubt they are on your radar (or anyone outside of Cork really). Why would they be? Who takes a team serious when they have the results we have had. Hopefully our management can get the best out of these guys and get people to take notice."
Let me tell you Ben ybunny this Donegal team and management best take Cork serious and take them very serious.
Cork gave us one of the biggest hiding S I saw Donegal ever get a few years ago.
I'll tell you how much I remember about it-- I got up at 3-30 that morning in Edinburgh to catch the 7 o clock flight to Dublin. You can imagine how I felt when the final whistle went.
I for one won't underestimate Cork. I also think we will have one of the best games of the championship. I think Cork have one big game in them so we best be on our guard. I'm hoping we win but we can't and I hope won't take ye for granted
Best of luck and with our minors clashing it should be a good afternoons football

SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 25/07/2016 21:47:40    1890042

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I thin Donegal will play an ultra conservative game & try to eke out a win. Granted if Cork come at them it will open things out a bit but if they are able to play a tight defensive game then It will be very difficult for Donegal who have traditionally struggled against teams set up the same way as themselves.

I will be very interested to see what team Gallagher puts out. There are calls here to let the young lads have a go but I don't see this happening, it just isn't in Gallagher's make up to take chances.

I remember a programme about the Somme recently which described the soldiers who died as lions led by donkeys. I'm sorry to say that the same applies to Donegal at the moment. I am still not over the second half against Tyrone & will not be travelling this weekend, I simply couldn't take another performance like that & I am afraid that that is what we will get.

I will be delighted to be proved wrong but I have my doubts.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 25/07/2016 23:09:44    1890076

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50/50 game

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8591 - 26/07/2016 01:01:18    1890090

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Hard to say how this game will pan out,

Cork are really inconsistent, yet have very good players and are still capable of putting in a massive performance that will win this game.
Donegal are very strong, but its difficult to gauge whether or not they can focus sufficiently for this game after losing the Ulster final.

I think Donegal will win it, but it won't be a shock if Cork turn up on the day and win it.

GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3017 - 26/07/2016 02:06:41    1890103

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I want Donegal to win.

I want another shot at them.

But i actually think Cork will win.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 26/07/2016 07:38:06    1890119

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