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I realise Cillian O'Connor is one of the best free takers in the business if not the best but Mayo over the last few years certainly seem to score more points from free's than anyone else. If you look at the difference in points in frees from the Dublin Mayo games in recent years you'll be very surprised. TheWestIsAwake (UK) - Posts: 529 - 19/07/2016 11:02:44 1886094 Link 1 |
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Probably not streetwise enough in the past, honestly. They have Lee Keegan and he is a great man for doing a bit of winding up when the game is in the melting pot and he has a bit of gall. If there's a few minutes left on the clock and Mayo are just squeaking ahead, you can be sure Lee Keegan will be doing something to agitate the opposition. He's fairly antagonistic and wiley enough when games are teetering on the edge, but that's part of the reason he'd likely make any team in the country. Of all of Mayo's players, I'd say he's the cutest and knows how to get under the opposition's skin. They could probably do with a few more like him. Colm Boyle is hard as nails and often sets the tone, but I wouldn't call him " cute" exactly. ZeitChrist (UK) - Posts: 154 - 19/07/2016 11:17:54 1886111 Link 0 |
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Yeah we got six frees inside the Kildare half at the weekend, none of them inside thirty yards from goal. Cute or what!!! And if this is another extension of the endless AOS threads give us a break. And finally have a look at all the frees scored by young Rock this year (he's a brilliant free taker by the way) and tell me are Dublin getting cute? Talk about a slow week.
Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 19/07/2016 11:18:56 1886112 Link 1 |
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Yet another Mayo thread? This subject has been covered already on other threads, pointless stuff. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7893 - 19/07/2016 11:19:07 1886113 Link 1 |
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It's pure coincidence that we seem more streetwise under a new manager. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7345 - 19/07/2016 11:27:42 1886120 Link 0 |
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In the last 4 championship encounters between Dublin & Mayo the Dubs have scored 11 points from free's whilst Mayo have 25. It just seems quite a huge difference. TheWestIsAwake (UK) - Posts: 529 - 19/07/2016 11:34:34 1886129 Link 1 |
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It's well known that over the last few years mayo have put a massive effort into their tackling technique. Donegal in their prime never gave away fouls either. A lot of mayo's frees last year were moved forward because of back chat from dublin players
MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 420 - 19/07/2016 13:05:55 1886237 Link 1 |
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Could equally argue the toss that Dublin are the crafty ones conceding frees rather than goal chances...
roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 19/07/2016 21:27:11 1886666 Link 4 |
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On the contrary I think they are a bit braindead. waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 19/07/2016 21:46:57 1886690 Link 1 |
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What would be true Wayno but I have seen you many times state you don't think we have good enough footballers (namely forwards) to win an All Ireland...so which is it?
yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11231 - 20/07/2016 09:46:50 1886822 Link 1 |
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In Fairness, it's both. * Not having the goods up front (and now seemingly with a suspect midfield vs Kildare, and defence that needs protecting. * Tactical naivety, both on the pitch and the sidelines. Simply too many examples of this to quote. Remember the cringefest that was Dublin walking to the Hill 16 end of the pitch with linked arms Vs Mayo in '96? We couldn't put Mayo to the sword in that game, and we paid for it dearly. My God, we were mentally frail back then, and had such a monkey on our backs. That's where Mayo are now. Desperately trying to prove they have the stones to win Sam, and falling apart year after year. They need a management team in place that can instil the belief that they can do it, and in my opinion, the current one simply isn't up to the task. Jaden (Dublin) - Posts: 139 - 20/07/2016 10:13:32 1886837 Link 0 |
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That was hardly 20 years ago?!
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 20/07/2016 13:45:53 1886980 Link 0 |
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Typo - '06. What they did in '96 is a whole different matter. Jaden (Dublin) - Posts: 139 - 20/07/2016 14:10:30 1887004 Link 0 |
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Basically Jaden answered the question for me YT. Both. waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 20/07/2016 15:43:12 1887098 Link 1 |
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And on what grounds do you think this Mayo management team isn't up to the task?
mayoaresavage (Mayo) - Posts: 313 - 21/07/2016 10:03:10 1887421 Link 0 |
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Every team is crafty, craftiness is in the eye of the beholder. Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12120 - 21/07/2016 10:42:20 1887449 Link 0 |
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A couple of things. It's no secret that player power is strong in the Mayo dressing room at the moment. Players seem to have alot of sway in what shots are called. The seems to be alot of Majors and no General. The lack of inclusion of some up and coming U21s reeks of the old guard afraid of their places, and getting their way. Aidan's jersey number seems to be pulled out of a hat. Rumour has it he will start in between the posts against Westmeath. This indicates a certain indecisiveness as regards position selection. it's nice to have versatile players, it's not as nice when management seem to have no real idea what to do with them. None of this is a smoking gun for the actual state of Mayo's management, but there is a trend that seems to indicate that management are not running the show without some kind of veto in place from the players. Evidence is anecdotal, but there seem to be local rumblings. Again, a proper stress test during a big game will be telling. Jaden (Dublin) - Posts: 139 - 21/07/2016 11:42:22 1887499 Link 0 |
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We don't know the ins and outs of what goes on in the dressing room but some of your post doesn't make any sense. I would love to see a load of U-21S step up but most of them are not ready. Massive difference in standard of championships. And I hate the fact that we are still relying on the likes of Moran and Dillon but Andy was superb against Kildare and Dillon made a huge difference in the Fermanagh game when we were struggling so you can't say they haven't earned their place. If the others were flying they wouldn't be left out. As for AOS, he is strugging big time for form and barely meriting a starting place on form. There are always rumours, one of them was Tony Mc doesn't get on with the OS brothers, another was that they demanded that Hennelly starts ahead of Clarke. These rumours are great craic but we now have Clarke back in goals so I don't really buy any of these stories unless I hear them from the horses mouth. Mayo are still struggling to get 3 or 4 forwards scoring on the big days, and that is still the case this year. I think they are improving and if he can bite the bullet and put Higgins back as sweeper and let Mcloughlin free to play his usual role, we will improve again.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7893 - 21/07/2016 12:26:03 1887541 Link 0 |
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I wouldn't agree with you about the U21s. 6 of them are on the senior panel at the moment but the majority are just not ready for senior football. Stephen Coen has started 3 of our 4 championship games and has done well. Conor loftus played against London and scored 1-2 but has been injured since. I expect him to see game time against Westmeath. Obviously DOC is playing too. Apart from those 3, there's nobody that deserves to be playing ahead of the more experienced guys. In terms of Aidan o'shea, I think management decided to keep him well away from the opposition goals the last day because of the fermanagh incident. MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 420 - 21/07/2016 12:31:23 1887558 Link 0 |
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Id love to know the in's and out's of the Mayo team. It's great when a poster from Dublin know's what happening...he should send his CV to the Mayo News or Western People for a job. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11231 - 21/07/2016 12:52:51 1887573 Link 0 |