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Can someone bring an ounce of clarity to the manner in which the draw is panning out. Some are saying if Donegal beat Cork, Mayo beat Westmeath it could mean a Donegal/Dublin & Mayo Tyrone faceoff, also not sure do results on the other side affect the B side of the draw.

sugar.daddy (Mayo) - Posts: 85 - 18/07/2016 10:27:53    1885299

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Replying To sugar.daddy:  "Can someone bring an ounce of clarity to the manner in which the draw is panning out. Some are saying if Donegal beat Cork, Mayo beat Westmeath it could mean a Donegal/Dublin & Mayo Tyrone faceoff, also not sure do results on the other side affect the B side of the draw."
Yea if Donegal and Mayo win their 4th round qualifiers, Dublin will play Donegal and Mayo will play Tyrone.

That's a fact!

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 18/07/2016 10:46:58    1885320

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Saturday, July 23, 2016

Round 4A
Roscommon Vs Clare or Derry
Tipperary Vs Clare or Derry

Saturday, July 30, 2016 - Monday, August 01, 2016

Round 4B
Westmeath Vs Cork or Mayo
Donegal Vs Cork or Mayo

Quarter-Final (A)
Galway Vs 4A Winner

Quarter-Final (A)
Kerry Vs 4A Winner

Saturday, August 06, 2016

Quarter-Final (B)
Dublin Vs Round 4B Winner

Quarter-Final (B)
Tyrone Vs Round 4B Winner

Gael85 (Dublin) - Posts: 1433 - 18/07/2016 10:47:13    1885322

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Replying To sugar.daddy:  "Can someone bring an ounce of clarity to the manner in which the draw is panning out. Some are saying if Donegal beat Cork, Mayo beat Westmeath it could mean a Donegal/Dublin & Mayo Tyrone faceoff, also not sure do results on the other side affect the B side of the draw."
A and B side are totally independent of each other so what you say is correct. Let's take it one game at a time however.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11230 - 18/07/2016 10:48:02    1885324

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Donegal defintely play Dublin if they win & Roscommon def play kerry. Anyone know the scenario with Clare? I'm assuming they can meet Kerry again as it wasn't a provincial final?

jafallon (Galway) - Posts: 489 - 18/07/2016 10:56:16    1885328

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If Donegal win they will definitely play Dublin. If Westmeath win they will definitely play Tyrone. If Cork and Mayo win there will be a draw to see who plays Dublin and Tyrone

benjyyy (Donegal) - Posts: 1422 - 18/07/2016 11:07:26    1885338

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Semi finals will be leinster v munster ...kerry v dublin and ulster v connacht ....tyrone v galway. BUT mayo are the elephant in the room here and assuming they beat westmeath they will play either dublin or tyrone in qf. If donegal beat cork then its automaticalky mayo v tyrone. But if cork win there ll be a draw. Dublin could end up facing the big three mayo kerry tyrone which would make it interesting.my Predicted qf line up though is kerry v derry and Dublin v mayo on one side.Galway v clare. Tyrone v cork on the other

Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 766 - 18/07/2016 11:10:53    1885341

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So bengyyy if Donegal win they play Dublin and if mayo win they play Tyrone is that correct?

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 18/07/2016 11:15:04    1885351

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No need to answer I get it now.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 18/07/2016 11:25:50    1885361

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "So bengyyy if Donegal win they play Dublin and if mayo win they play Tyrone is that correct?"
correct

Gael85 (Dublin) - Posts: 1433 - 18/07/2016 11:25:58    1885362

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "So bengyyy if Donegal win they play Dublin and if mayo win they play Tyrone is that correct?"
If Donegal win they play Dublin. If Donegal win then obviously Mayo play Tyrone if they win. But if Mayo win and Donegal lose, then there will be a draw to see which of Cork or Mayo plays Dublin/Tyrone

benjyyy (Donegal) - Posts: 1422 - 18/07/2016 11:26:23    1885364

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "So bengyyy if Donegal win they play Dublin and if mayo win they play Tyrone is that correct?"
If donegal and mayo win, that's correct. If cork and mayo win it's an open draw against dubs or tyrone. Westmeath definitely play tyrone if they win.

MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 420 - 18/07/2016 11:29:16    1885368

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Donegal won't lose imo.

So Kerry play Derry Roscommon or Clare ah here no wonder they've 37 titles ffs.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 18/07/2016 11:31:36    1885369

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Sure Dublin only beat 1 quality team to win the All-Ireland in 2013 and 2015 and it will be the same this year if ye avoid Mayo in the QF.

KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 18/07/2016 13:13:46    1885464

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If Donegal overcome Cork then Dublin v Donegal and Mayo v Tyrone in two tasty last 8 encounters.

Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 18/07/2016 13:20:24    1885474

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Donegal won't lose imo.

So Kerry play Derry Roscommon or Clare ah here no wonder they've 37 titles ffs."
Oh yes, its so easy for us compared to the mine-field that is the Leinster Championship that Dublin negotiate every year. Sure yer lucky to make a Q-final at all!!!!

37 and counting....

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 18/07/2016 13:29:20    1885483

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Sure Dublin only beat 1 quality team to win the All-Ireland in 2013 and 2015 and it will be the same this year if ye avoid Mayo in the QF.

KYTitletown (Kerry) - 18/07/2016 13:13:46

Yeah Mayo, although Kerry weren't too bad in 2013 ;)

Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 18/07/2016 13:40:14    1885495

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That was an average Kerry team unfortunately we still haven't progressed beyond that level in the 3 years since. Hopefully in about 6/7 years when these minors will be fully in the swing of things we might a legitimate quality side.

KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 18/07/2016 13:50:10    1885501

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Replying To TheHermit:  "Oh yes, its so easy for us compared to the mine-field that is the Leinster Championship that Dublin negotiate every year. Sure yer lucky to make a Q-final at all!!!!

37 and counting...."
This is simply that latest annual instalment of yet more evidence that the structure favours the Munster Champions.

Start with a small number of competitive counties, throw in a seeded draw before adding a final scheduled earlier in July than other provinces.

It's hardly a matter of conjecture that Kerry teams have been the benchmark for all others, but no one can seriously argue this format doesn't give rise to an unbalanced Championship.

Knoxboya (Monaghan) - Posts: 357 - 18/07/2016 13:51:55    1885506

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Replying To Knoxboya:  "This is simply that latest annual instalment of yet more evidence that the structure favours the Munster Champions.

Start with a small number of competitive counties, throw in a seeded draw before adding a final scheduled earlier in July than other provinces.

It's hardly a matter of conjecture that Kerry teams have been the benchmark for all others, but no one can seriously argue this format doesn't give rise to an unbalanced Championship."
Wow! I'm surprised anyone thinks an early provincial final is an advantage for anyone. 3 weeks is the ideal preparation time. 4 weeks is a bit much. I'd prefer all provincial finals to be played on the same weekend. GAA want the hurling finals on different weekends. As it's Munster v Leinster in the second semi-final, the Munster final should have been played yesterday.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7842 - 18/07/2016 18:21:37    1885779

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