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Kerry dominance in Munster

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Who can stop Kerry in Munster? On Wednesday they beat Cork to win 3rd Munster junior championship in a row. On sunday they will have 2 more wins easily to to also win 3 in a row in senior and minor. On top of that they are dominant in club scene. How can Limerick, Clare, Waterford and tipperary compete with this? Should they amalgamate together. Even cork are 10 years behind Kerry. Who can stop Kerry in munster? intersesting they are the only non dual county in munster

CurranCake1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 130 - 01/07/2016 21:44:17    1874861

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I wouldn't say we are non-duel - our hurlers are in division 1B with the likes of Wexford, Limerick, Galway and Offaly Laois etc but ya we are in a rich vain of form but prob stems from the county board having the wherewith to have established coaches involved as GDA's at schools level and more to the point having the correct coach in charge of the Minors, Seniors, U21's and Juniors... not to mention the U14-17 developments squads in North and South Kerry..

Horsebox77 (Kerry) - Posts: 5491 - 01/07/2016 22:23:26    1874875

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Replying To Horsebox77:  "I wouldn't say we are non-duel - our hurlers are in division 1B with the likes of Wexford, Limerick, Galway and Offaly Laois etc but ya we are in a rich vain of form but prob stems from the county board having the wherewith to have established coaches involved as GDA's at schools level and more to the point having the correct coach in charge of the Minors, Seniors, U21's and Juniors... not to mention the U14-17 developments squads in North and South Kerry.."
It was a good year for our hurlers. They retained both their 1B and McCarthy level status. The fact that there was disappointment about not making a Leinster quarter-final says it all about our hurlers ambitions.

It's very tight at that level. We have Meath promoted now for next year. Carlow and Antrim are both good enough for the qualifier level but are in the Ring Cup. Antrim had a motion pushed through congress for the Ring winner to enter the Leinster quarter-finals of the same year. It is likely to be struck out of order by Central council. I have contacted both Antrim and Carlow to suggest they should push for an alternative motion that would see the Ring finalists and the 3rd and 4th placed teams from the qualifier group enter the All-Ireland qualifiers. My suggestion is that they be drawn against the 4 provincial quarter-final losers in the 1st round with the winners advancing to take on the 4 provincial semi-final losers in the 2nd round.

Back more on topic, at least Munster has a fair seeding system. Both Kerry and Tipperary will have a bye to next year's Munster semi-finals. The semi-final will be an open draw. It will give the 4 weaker counties of Cork, Clare, Limerick and Waterford a possibility to play for one final spot next year should Kerry and Tipperary land on the same side of the draw!

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7821 - 02/07/2016 09:16:45    1874914

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Replying To CurranCake1:  "Who can stop Kerry in Munster? On Wednesday they beat Cork to win 3rd Munster junior championship in a row. On sunday they will have 2 more wins easily to to also win 3 in a row in senior and minor. On top of that they are dominant in club scene. How can Limerick, Clare, Waterford and tipperary compete with this? Should they amalgamate together. Even cork are 10 years behind Kerry. Who can stop Kerry in munster? intersesting they are the only non dual county in munster"
For a Roscommon man you sure do seem to think you have to a innate knowledge of things down here.

There are only 2 counties in Ireland who have Division 1 status in both Hurling and Football and we are one of them which is pretty considering our population and economic situation. In other word the only non-Juggernaut team to accomplish this.

Also why have you failed to mention the U-21 Football Championship? I'm sure you know our record since the new Millennium began, 2 Provinical Titles in 17 years where does this fit with your mythical theory?

KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 02/07/2016 10:31:14    1874939

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Replying To legendzxix:  "It was a good year for our hurlers. They retained both their 1B and McCarthy level status. The fact that there was disappointment about not making a Leinster quarter-final says it all about our hurlers ambitions.

It's very tight at that level. We have Meath promoted now for next year. Carlow and Antrim are both good enough for the qualifier level but are in the Ring Cup. Antrim had a motion pushed through congress for the Ring winner to enter the Leinster quarter-finals of the same year. It is likely to be struck out of order by Central council. I have contacted both Antrim and Carlow to suggest they should push for an alternative motion that would see the Ring finalists and the 3rd and 4th placed teams from the qualifier group enter the All-Ireland qualifiers. My suggestion is that they be drawn against the 4 provincial quarter-final losers in the 1st round with the winners advancing to take on the 4 provincial semi-final losers in the 2nd round.

Back more on topic, at least Munster has a fair seeding system. Both Kerry and Tipperary will have a bye to next year's Munster semi-finals. The semi-final will be an open draw. It will give the 4 weaker counties of Cork, Clare, Limerick and Waterford a possibility to play for one final spot next year should Kerry and Tipperary land on the same side of the draw!"
Haha, nice little dig at Cork there

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4207 - 02/07/2016 13:37:54    1874996

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Here here Horse, what does this Curran poster think, that Kerry should be reprimanded for the effort and work they put in to make Kerry the force they are at most levels. Doing it with our own money too by the way, Kerry have to fund raise constantly. We don't have Croke Park throwing 51% of their games development budget at us unlike somewhere else. And if any county deserves that amount of money it's us for everything we have done!

It's up to the rest to get their houses in order. People think there is some magic formula Kerry have stumbled upon to make them the power house they are, there isn't. The simple answer is that since around 1901 the GAA in Kerry has been well organized, that in ever generation we have had extremely capable people in charge of the whole thing and driving it on. That's the secret of our success.

Long may it last!

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 02/07/2016 17:49:10    1875082

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Split Kerry in two !

county man (Limerick) - Posts: 1102 - 02/07/2016 21:45:36    1875174

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Replying To county man:  "Split Kerry in two !"
A similar post is going on with respect to Leinster and I hope the same doesn't happen in Munster where teams are literally scared of the thought of the dubs. Ulster may be rubbish at hurling but as far as football is concerned at least it's interesting - 4 counties very close and then theres Derry and Fermanagh who can hold their own in qualifiers with other counties in Ireland. As bad as Munster is, its still not as bad as Leinster.

IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 02/07/2016 22:15:52    1875181

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The most embarrassing thing about this championship is, it isn't even celebrated. same as the leinster football and hurling championships. When the winning teams supporters can't be bothered celebrating a title you know their provincial competition has gone to crap.

If I could wipe kerry, Killkenny and Dublin off the map overnight I would. And I'd be doing everyone in ireland a massive favour too. The damage these 3 have done to the organisation isn't even funny.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 03/07/2016 17:58:43    1875516

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "The most embarrassing thing about this championship is, it isn't even celebrated. same as the leinster football and hurling championships. When the winning teams supporters can't be bothered celebrating a title you know their provincial competition has gone to crap.

If I could wipe kerry, Killkenny and Dublin off the map overnight I would. And I'd be doing everyone in ireland a massive favour too. The damage these 3 have done to the organisation isn't even funny."
That's just ridiculous.
What they've done to the championship! What is that exactly.

They've won it. Fair and square. They are the best. They've raised the bar. Why would anyone want to get rid of the best. Someone has to be the best. It's other counties fault that these teams are dominating for not getting up to scratch.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4207 - 03/07/2016 18:11:12    1875522

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "The most embarrassing thing about this championship is, it isn't even celebrated. same as the leinster football and hurling championships. When the winning teams supporters can't be bothered celebrating a title you know their provincial competition has gone to crap.

If I could wipe kerry, Killkenny and Dublin off the map overnight I would. And I'd be doing everyone in ireland a massive favour too. The damage these 3 have done to the organisation isn't even funny."
Why because they have brought the standards up and raised the bar?
Instead of whinging and typical irish mentality why not raise your own levels.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 03/07/2016 18:19:31    1875525

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "The most embarrassing thing about this championship is, it isn't even celebrated. same as the leinster football and hurling championships. When the winning teams supporters can't be bothered celebrating a title you know their provincial competition has gone to crap.

If I could wipe kerry, Killkenny and Dublin off the map overnight I would. And I'd be doing everyone in ireland a massive favour too. The damage these 3 have done to the organisation isn't even funny."
What advantages do Kerry have over the rest? Please tell me what we have done wrong

We have a population of 145k (14th highest in Ireland) and we have one of the oldest aged populations (as many young people had to emigrate within and outside Ireland) so our potential playing pool is even smaller than our 145k indicates. Are you trying to tell me emigration and geographical isolation are advantages for Kerry

Meath has a population of 184k and faces none of the challenges I outlined to anywhere near the same degree so why are you attacking us.

Oh and by the way I'm just back from Killarney and you need not fear Kerry winning an AI any time soon as we are way off the pace the top teams are setting. Lack of pace in the defence and midfield is frightening...........

KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 03/07/2016 21:13:22    1875637

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Jack if i could wipe you off the HS map i would.... And id be doing us all a favour. The best thing about our current dominance over meath is how much it upsets the likes of u!

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 03/07/2016 21:27:59    1875661

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