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I'm at a loss to know who controls the forays of the water carriers on to the field of play. In most games they come on very unobtrusively away from the play or when there is a break in the play, delivering water, or messages from the manager. However some teams seem to need their water carrier on the field nearly all the time. In some instances, admittadly only a few, we had them getting caught up in incidents with opposition players/officials. Having watched the Donegal/Fermanagh game live and the Monaghan/Donegal game on TV, I found myself being drawn to the actions of the Donegal water carrier. Repeatedly he ran across in front of the opposition free taker as he was trying to take a free. I also noticed him doing the same when the opposition goalkeeper was attempting a quick/short kick out. At first I thought it was just a lack of thought on his part, but as it continued to happen I began to wonder if it was a tactic dreamed up by management. I don't think that is likely and that it may be the man himself doing his own thing. Either way management or the ref should have called a halt to it. Have posters got some thoughts on how water carriers are used? neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 30/06/2016 15:54:59 1874336 Link 4 |
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Had a conversation with a co-worker about this the other day. I think the GAA should appoint 2 maor uischi, 1 for each team who travel as part of the referee's party. It's not the most practical solution, but it's gone beyond a joke at this stage. Armagh have always had a sub throw on a bib and get involved in scuffles, etc. and it looks now that more teams are following suit. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 30/06/2016 16:52:26 1874379 Link 0 |
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Given the awful damp cool weather at present, there doesn't appear to be a great need for water at present! I think the maor uisce is sometimes used to pass on messages to players, or cause a break in play at times. thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1741 - 30/06/2016 17:52:05 1874403 Link 0 |
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4 ENTRY TO FIELD OF PLAY/INCURSIONS One Team Official (Maor Foirne, who is an assistant to the Bainisteoir), may move alongside the sidelines and enter the field of play, as specified hereunder, to make changes and/or to give instructions to players. The Maor Foirne shall enter the field of play through the Substitution Zone and only when the ball has gone out of play following a score or a 'wide' or during a stoppage in play which is called by the Referee for medical attention to an injured player. This named official shall wear a yellow or tangerine coloured bib/distinctive top which shall have "MAOR FOIRNE" in clear large letters. The Committee-in-Charge shall determine and notify the colour to be used by each Maor Foirne. The Maor Foirne may not act as a water carrier or hurley carrier. A Selector is permitted to act as Maor Foirne. The Maor Foirne shall not be a listed member of the Team Panel. This rule was brought in a couple of seasons ago to stop numerous people entering the field of play. Only one person should be. And strangely can't carry water. I missed the game Saturday but would this be the fella entering? I don't see any restrictions on when or how many times they can enter so I'm presuming it's allowed at all times even during play. SamandLiamSoon (Galway) - Posts: 589 - 30/06/2016 18:13:41 1874417 Link 0 |
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Have you ever seen Shanahan grabbing a bottle every two minutes and running on pitch I even saw him last time out have a laugh with the Ref!! arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 30/06/2016 18:15:49 1874419 Link 0 |
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Yeah this was the whole talk of the town last weekend after the Monaghan / Donegal drawn match. People were wanting to know the rules regarding the Maor Foirne as apparently he was like an extra man last Saturday as he barely left the playing field. Hope this week's referee has enough gumption to call the rules and make sure he is where he's supposed to be when the balls in play and that's the sidelines.
border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 894 - 30/06/2016 18:58:29 1874432 Link 1 |
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This carry on isn't something new. Louth played away to Armagh a few years back and their captain (still is) was injured and was the maor foirne for the evening. He ran in front of our penalty being taken and was sent to the stand for giving verbals to our free takers. he'd have needed a rub down following his travels at the end. Very cynical and unsporting altogether. We won though and that took the quietened him. ged (Louth) - Posts: 296 - 30/06/2016 19:04:04 1874437 Link 0 |
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Think the Donegal Maoir Foirne was helped to the ground a few times in the last few minutes of the game. The fourth official and the linesman will hopefully have taken their porridge on Saturday and Sunday morning and also been eating their carrots. If the supporters can see alk this going on and know it's not within the rules then why can't the officials see it. Also this revised trick which has re emerged over this past two weekends of teams making a substitute but leaving the substituted played on the field. Surly this old trick can be wiped out with a thirteen yard free to the other team. Talk about bad sportsmanship.
border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 894 - 30/06/2016 20:33:00 1874453 Link 0 |
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Gaa rules state water men must stay on each 45 and not come on field players must come to them .also gaa rule the maoir forne is only allowed during break in play but must not act as a water carrier . Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 30/06/2016 21:03:43 1874460 Link 1 |
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The Donegal guy has been doing that all year. We played them twice in the league and he tryed slow cluxton kickouts the whole time by running across the 21yard line hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 30/06/2016 21:24:57 1874465 Link 0 |
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Maurice Deegan is refereeing on Saturday & is nobody's fool. MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 30/06/2016 22:00:06 1874478 Link 1 |
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Probably the best ref around at the minute, but he was linesman for the Cavan Armagh game and let all sorts of off-the-ball stuff go on right in front of him without alerting the referee.
cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 01/07/2016 10:02:27 1874540 Link 0 |
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Until he scores a point or goal I couldn't careless what he's doing , Id imagine its a distraction as much as a help to players if he over does his visits , but if I'm being honest its not something I've ever really paid much heed to. Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 01/07/2016 11:03:24 1874568 Link 1 |
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My rules says if the opposition team are doing it and getting away with it then start blatantly doing it too and then you might get the ref to react and put a stop to it.
Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 01/07/2016 11:34:03 1874590 Link 0 |
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for goodness sake, surely the man subbed should come off the field first before the sub enters. why do officials not impose the rules.
s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 01/07/2016 15:16:52 1874719 Link 0 |
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the rule also says he must not be a member of the playing panel. does that mean the match day panel ? s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 01/07/2016 15:19:26 1874721 Link 0 |
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liner (Mayo) - Posts: 756 - 02/07/2016 23:54:31 1875214 Link 0 |
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That is not the rule. They want to speed up the game, not slow it down. I would be very surprised if a subbed player becomes active in any senior inter county match, where the function of the 4th official is to ensure the player comes off.
Torcaill (Australia) - Posts: 204 - 03/07/2016 08:45:00 1875254 Link 0 |
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Match day panel.
Torcaill (Australia) - Posts: 204 - 03/07/2016 08:46:32 1875255 Link 0 |