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http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=256789 James Horan has his say on Galway-Mayo. For a couple of years I've heard belly-aching about Dublin.....but in reality, Meath/Kildare, Galway, Cork etc just havent been up to much! Sport tends to be cyclic. Note, I dont mention Ulster as they are strong/weak depending on how its viewed. My personal view is the Dubs are just at the top of a weak bunch of teams. Very few top players to mention. Nowadays a free taker is class. Discuss JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 17/06/2016 11:36:03 1868080 Link
Replying To JayP: "http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=256789 James Horan has his say on Galway-Mayo. For a couple of years I've heard belly-aching about Dublin.....but in reality, Meath/Kildare, Galway, Cork etc just havent been up to much! Sport tends to be cyclic. Note, I dont mention Ulster as they are strong/weak depending on how its viewed. My personal view is the Dubs are just at the top of a weak bunch of teams. Very few top players to mention. Nowadays a free taker is class. Discuss" When you spend couple million a year you really should be winning same every year as you more and less buy it by training like professionals Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 17/06/2016 12:04:33 1868103 Link
Replying To Dellboypolecat: "When you spend couple million a year you really should be winning same every year as you more and less buy it by training like professionals" I expected that kinda response. Doesnt deal with the topic. JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 17/06/2016 12:23:47 1868114 Link
Replying To JayP: "http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=256789 James Horan has his say on Galway-Mayo. For a couple of years I've heard belly-aching about Dublin.....but in reality, Meath/Kildare, Galway, Cork etc just havent been up to much! Sport tends to be cyclic. Note, I dont mention Ulster as they are strong/weak depending on how its viewed. My personal view is the Dubs are just at the top of a weak bunch of teams. Very few top players to mention. Nowadays a free taker is class. Discuss" My personal view is this has been discussed many times only worded differently as a topic. Dublin are number 1 with Mayo, Kerry, Donegal, Monaghan and Tyrone leading the chase. Nothing more to discuss really. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7885 - 17/06/2016 12:32:41 1868120 Link
Flaker... Im just asking to scrutinise the chasing pack. Its actually not about Dublin! JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 17/06/2016 12:49:58 1868128 Link
Not sure what your topic is JayP? 'Nowadays a free taker is class" What does that mean? Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 17/06/2016 12:58:18 1868135 Link
Dell Money is great when you have the players to spend it on Millions have been pumped into the Cork footballers since 2010 Millions have been spent on the Mayo footballers since 2011 Sorry but it proves that money doesn't buy success If it did.. Both Cork and Mayo would have had a fair few titles between them over that time frame Money is important.. but only when you have the quality to spend it on jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 17/06/2016 13:01:19 1868137 Link
If the playing field was level or at least not rife with disparities (in terms of financial resources, funding, playing pool etc) then your point about those teams underperforming would be valid but alas, it's not You cant hold Meath Galway Cork & Kildare to the same standards to Dublin as they are not in the same league in all critical factors to doing well at senior IC level. KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 17/06/2016 13:02:21 1868139 Link
whats the Dublin link here JayP???? Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 17/06/2016 13:06:27 1868140 Link
.... and Many millions have been spent on the Kerry footballers Dublin just has the better quality at present and has the resources to pump into that quality to bring the very best out of them If Dublin spent a 10'er on their Senior football team in 2016 I'd still fancy them to beat anyone jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 17/06/2016 13:10:03 1868141 Link
Replying To Dellboypolecat: "When you spend couple million a year you really should be winning same every year as you more and less buy it by training like professionals" Are Tyrone not fit , not training ? Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 17/06/2016 13:12:12 1868144 Link
Replying To JayP: "http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=256789 James Horan has his say on Galway-Mayo. For a couple of years I've heard belly-aching about Dublin.....but in reality, Meath/Kildare, Galway, Cork etc just havent been up to much! Sport tends to be cyclic. Note, I dont mention Ulster as they are strong/weak depending on how its viewed. My personal view is the Dubs are just at the top of a weak bunch of teams. Very few top players to mention. Nowadays a free taker is class. Discuss" Gap between Galway and Mayo doesn't seem to have closed. Roscommon could give them a rattle in the final though. Gap has probably widened to Dublin. Kerry and Donegal seem to need some new blood. Tyrone still developing. Mayo seem to be the most realistic challenge, that's been the consensus on other similar threads. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4210 - 17/06/2016 13:27:40 1868158 Link
KY.... there is never a level playing field. Never has been, never will be. Liam... The link was to Horan talking about a gap widening between Mayo and Galway. My Dublin connection is Dublin are blamed for the woes of the GAA. Similar to Cork, Galway should be in with a shout of provincial success. The fact they arent isnt Dublins fault. As I said in the OP ..... Dublin are the best team......but the chasing pack outside the obvious.....arent doing themselves justice. Scrutinise the chasers. JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 17/06/2016 13:46:04 1868173 Link
Oh and free takers? I know a fat aul lad who used to play junior ball in Dublin. Think I seen him miss one free in three years. Useless in General Play. But scored every free. Frees are a vital element in the modern game as they are pretty much a guaranteed score. There mustnt be much to look at if the free taker is class!!! JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 17/06/2016 13:55:05 1868180 Link
Replying To JayP: "I expected that kinda response. Doesnt deal with the topic." It does deal with the topic if your spending millions you will be streets ahead of everyone else .simple explanation really and the truth Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 17/06/2016 15:13:27 1868213 Link
Replying To jimbodub: "Dell Money is great when you have the players to spend it on Millions have been pumped into the Cork footballers since 2010 Millions have been spent on the Mayo footballers since 2011 Sorry but it proves that money doesn't buy success If it did.. Both Cork and Mayo would have had a fair few titles between them over that time frame Money is important.. but only when you have the quality to spend it on" Cork and mayo does not spend over .2million a year Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 17/06/2016 15:14:37 1868216 Link
Replying To Dellboypolecat: "Cork and mayo does not spend over .2million a year" Neither do Dublin Dell Where are you getting 2 million from??? Dublin released it's spend across both footballers and hurlers and it wasn't 2 million even when you added them both together... Don't be just throwing out random numbers buddy... it's not the way to go about. Again though Dell It's all well and good spending millions.. but you need to quality to spend it on... ask Tyrone, Mayo, Cork, Kerry.. who between them have spent many millions only to come up short against this current Dubs team They just haven't had our quality over that time... It's all well and good having money.. but only if you have the skilful players to spend it on... jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 17/06/2016 15:28:10 1868224 Link
To Dell http://www.punditarena.com/gaa/adrumm/revealed-the-shocking-amount-spent-by-each-county-board-preparing-inter-county-teams-last-year/ ... See what Cork spent in 2015.... only a small amount less than Dublin What did they win again Dell?? Time for you to re-evaluate your current logic a wee bit... Spending big money doesn't guarantee success.. as per Cork 2015 Having gifted, skilful and ultimately dedicated players/management DOES THOUGH... And that's exactly what we have... jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 17/06/2016 15:38:16 1868231 Link
Replying To jimbodub: ".... and Many millions have been spent on the Kerry footballers Dublin just has the better quality at present and has the resources to pump into that quality to bring the very best out of them If Dublin spent a 10'er on their Senior football team in 2016 I'd still fancy them to beat anyone" But such is the disparity in resources (financial, population and economic situation) between Kerry and Dublin that this will always be the case. If there wasn't a significant gap the competency of the Dublin County Board would come into question. KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 17/06/2016 20:46:17 1868329 Link
JP, Every other week there is a thread about Dublins resources and how unfair it is, it's belted out ad nauseum. James Horan then talks about the gap between Mayo and Galway where there is no mention of Dublin, But you then start a thread that brings Dublin into the equation , which will only go one way. Mind boggles. AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 18/06/2016 00:34:30 1868380 Link