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One of my favourite footballers ever. Loved his determination and leadership as the THE best 6 of his generation Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 30/05/2016 11:24:08 1859894 Link 1 |
Don't necessarily agree with you on your assessment of Kildare. Geezer led us to the Quarter Finals every year bar one. We got to an All-Ireland semi and desperately unlucky not to go further on a couple of occassions.... Dr.Watson (Kildare) - Posts: 208 - 30/05/2016 11:51:07 1859903 Link 3 |
Yeah,great player but that doesn't always translate into great manager or vise versa. Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 30/05/2016 11:59:54 1859905 Link 0 |
Good article from a couple of months ago. Dr.Watson (Kildare) - Posts: 208 - 30/05/2016 12:04:43 1859909 Link 0 |
This revisionist view that McGeeney was poor in Kildare is totally at odds with the facts and where Kildare were before and after he left. They couldn't beat Dublin, but not many others did in his term but he still got them to quarter-finals and they were robbed out of it in the All-Ireland semi-final against Down in 2010. Armagh have been poor for two years but when he left Kildare, there were plenty of counties who would have jumped at the chance to get him. Roger (Meath) - Posts: 469 - 30/05/2016 12:06:29 1859910 Link 0 |
I don't think McGeeney is a bad manager, he took over Kildare when they were very poor and he made them very competitive, also they should have qualified for the AI final in 2010. His biggest failure as Kildare manager though is not winning Leinster, in fact they only made 1 final under Geezer but maybe the qualifiers suited them because he had an excellent qualifier record. Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 30/05/2016 12:44:25 1859929 Link 0 |
I think he got the best out of the Kildare lads. Johnny Doyle and Emmet Bolton were top players, the rest he got to buy into his regime and were decent hard working players. The size of the Kildare support when he was in charge would be a reflection of the faith they had in McGeeney. KerryKillers (Dublin) - Posts: 711 - 30/05/2016 12:51:01 1859932 Link 1 |
McGeeney did nothing for Kildare football at no stage during his reign in charge did they beat a top team they got lucky with the draws they had up until a quarter final stage where they eventually lost. The teams they beat Kildare were always expected to beat and they would still be expected to beat those teams now. They never beat Dublin Cork Kerry Donegal Tyrone Mayo. He didn't win a Leinster so he was not a success. dubshurling7 (Dublin) - Posts: 1017 - 30/05/2016 12:51:41 1859933 Link 0 |
I wouldnt regard him as a terrible manager but unfortunately he seems to be one of those managers that wants to reduce any sense of individualism within the squad. He is not alone in this, whereby they just a team of robots who will follow there every command. woops (Kerry) - Posts: 2073 - 30/05/2016 13:03:46 1859936 Link 1 |
Bash the manager time... Joe Brolly was back to his antics yesterday again. The reality is that Armagh are an average team , small county with a very successful recent past. We won as many Ulster titles from 1999 to 2008 than we did from 1884 to 1999, added to our 2 All-Ireland final appearances, U-21 all -ireland, Club, schools etc= we had a fantastic era. cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1664 - 30/05/2016 13:13:12 1859943 Link 2 |
I thought they were a bit harsh on Armagh yesterday, as had the penalty gone in, It would have been a very tense finish. GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3017 - 30/05/2016 13:58:38 1859953 Link 0 |
To me that game didn't reflect very well on McGeeney as a manager. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4172 - 30/05/2016 14:48:27 1859974 Link 0 |
I agree totally, don't forget campbells 21 yard free that he failed to beat the first man in the first half. That penalty goes in and that point over it's a two point game with 15 left on the clock. McGeeney can't do anything about that. I think a lot of posters here are forgetting the influence mcgeeny had when he joined the Armagh backroom staff two years ago. Didn't they run donegal very close in an all ireland qf. The year prior to that with no McGeeney they were tactically inept. Those who say he done nothing at Kildare need their head examined. If it was not for some awful officiating and Kalum Kings finger tips they would have been in the 2010 all ireland final. gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 30/05/2016 15:27:24 1859998 Link 2 |
The Kildare teams under him where the most overrated in history. RoyalBadger (Meath) - Posts: 571 - 30/05/2016 15:29:13 1860001 Link 1 |
I think your been very harsh Armagh don't have the players. Keran is well into his 30s and it's not the first time Clarke has left Armagh and he has never proved himself in inter county football. Kildare were going nowhere before he took them over. He probably has the best record other than micko as kildare manager.
ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 30/05/2016 15:39:28 1860007 Link 0 |
Bit early to judge him, and he did an excellent job with Kildare. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7831 - 30/05/2016 15:44:03 1860009 Link 0 |
Kernan is 29
Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 30/05/2016 16:06:34 1860031 Link 0 |
read a lovely article by Jamie Clarke yesterday who was very respectful of Kieran Mcgeeney but he knew the path the Armagh team was going down with style and tactics so knew himself he was better off out of it for his piece of mind and life enjoyment. The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2087 - 30/05/2016 16:36:04 1860042 Link 3 |
He did an excellent job with Kildare??? They managed to beat an average Meath side under his tenure which was the best side they beat.He had some really good players like John Doyle at his diposal too. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 30/05/2016 16:45:31 1860050 Link 1 |
My evaluation of McGeeney as a manger is that he was desperately unlucky with kildare. in 2010 they lost narrowly in the leinster final to a last second free that wasnt a free v dublin, and after that, against down in a game they could and should have won. The following year they could have been 6 up had a goal not been disallowed against us in the quarter finals and they were pegged back and lost. I think that with armagh he is totally at sea, so I think that he will always struggle now as I am sure subconsciously he expects his team to struggle. Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 30/05/2016 17:10:34 1860064 Link 0 |