It looks as if Mayo management team have not learned anything from the widespread discussions last year on dangers of allowing players to continue playing after they have picked up a head injury. Keegan did not seem to know what he was doing after getting a knock to the head in a collision with Cadogan. He looked in a really bad way as he was eventually being led from the pitch. I hope he is OK.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 31/01/2016 17:00:43    1820896

According to Off the Ball Keegan should have been taken off cos the result wasn't in doubt and it wasn't an important game. Implying that if a player had suspected concussion in a big game they should consider putting him back in. Not a very smart thing to say.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7337 - 31/01/2016 17:20:47    1820910

Probably the biggest disgrace I've seen in along time , how on gods earth did they not take Keegan off the field ? And then to leave a concussed player sitting on the bench like that wtf was going on? After seeing that today Keegan will probably start midfield next Saturday cause Mayo back room team obviously don't care about player welfare. Honestly that really annoyed me today after all the talk about concussion they go and do that.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 31/01/2016 18:14:57    1820947

This incident was shocking. We just don't realise the damage that these concussions can do. There needs to be new measures introduced. I think there should be compulsory head gear for all players similar to scrum caps worn by rugby players

JohnJoeRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 56 - 31/01/2016 18:16:10    1820950

From what I am hearing, he was able to pass the on-field tests. Makes you wonder what we actually know about concussion.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 31/01/2016 19:37:38    1820989

We probably know very little. Hopefully Moffat knows enough. Looks like it was his decision to let him play in.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7337 - 31/01/2016 20:07:37    1821010

Didn't hear off the ball but that's a disgraceful comment even if it was injury time in an AI final he should very been withdrawn. Mayo released a statement admitting the error but to me that was damage control as it was blatantly obvious to everyone there he was out of it. And as for the fact he insisted on playing on that doesn't matter, most players will do that, medics have the final say and here they failed miserably

galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1678 - 31/01/2016 20:12:29    1821015

Well when you see graham Reilly been sideline for 10 days after suffering a mild concussion last week, these things have to be looked at , i didn't see keegans injury but by sounds of it it was reckless and actually dangerous to allow him continue playing, perhaps fines against cb, and maybe sideline ban for those who make a player continue would be one way of making them think.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 31/01/2016 20:52:28    1821051

A clash of heads should immediately have players taken off, majority of times it takes a few mins for players to get their feet right but that's just adrenaline pumping and that's why we usually see players dazed 5 mins after a head injury and walking around like zombies, it's a serious issue and GAA and medics need to take a hardliner on this, if teams carry on playing with a concussed player they should either be fined or forfeit the game, no more pussyfooting around health issue

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 31/01/2016 20:53:32    1821052

Damn I missed that I was sure they took him off when they smashed heads He looked in no state to continue In ice hockey in the NHL in the US a player that gets hit in the head have to spend 15 minutes in what they call the Quiet Room But it took serious head injuries for them to implement this The GAA should learn by this

cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 454 - 31/01/2016 20:54:43    1821053

http://www.newstalk.com/listen_back/10/24854/31st_January_2016_-_Off_The_Ball_Part_6/

Very near the end of that hour. McIntyre said maybe he'd be left on for an All Ireland Final. The lads in studio earlier on were surprised Keegan was left on because it wasn't an important game. I text them about ut, they didn't read it on air. I heard the Rochford interview later. He should have stopped McIntyre there and then and told him under no circumstance in any game would a Mayo player be let back on the pitch if there is any risk to his welfare.
In any sport no player should be left back on if there is a risk to him or her. Hopefully we can live and learn form this. Hopefully Lee and Eoin Cadogan will be back to the full of their health soon.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7337 - 31/01/2016 21:00:53    1821057

Probably the biggest disgrace I've seen in along time , how on gods earth did they not take Keegan off the field ? And then to leave a concussed player sitting on the bench like that wtf was going on? After seeing that today Keegan will probably start midfield next Saturday cause Mayo back room team obviously don't care about player welfare. Honestly that really annoyed me today after all the talk about concussion they go and do that.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts:6991 - 31/01/2016 18:14:57 1820

agree 100% with this. whatever about him passing the onfield tests the first time after the collision with Cadogan , he was barely able to make it to the sideline while being assisted by 2 mentors the second time. He was then left on the bench in his playing gear for the rest of the match holding his head and in clear distress. absolute disgrace. When you consider how much these players sacrifice to play the game at this level and that's the way they are treated. It is shameful. It shouldn't matter whether it's a league game in January or a big championship game at Croke-Park in the Summer, players should be treated the same. Who are the Mayo medical staff and what were they thinking of. btw to anyone at the game, what caused Keegan to collapse the second time, I didn't see any collision, was it an off the ball collision or did he just go down on his own.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 31/01/2016 21:01:07    1821058

This incident was shocking. We just don't realise the damage that these concussions can do. There needs to be new measures introduced. I think there should be compulsory head gear for all players similar to scrum caps worn by rugby players
JohnJoeRoyal (Meath) - Posts:36 - 31/01/2016 18:16:10 Its been proven scrum caps rugby players wear do NOTHING for preventing concussion. Theyre good for stopping cuts/bruises but will not stop a concussion


Well when you see graham Reilly been sideline for 10 days after suffering a mild concussion last week, these things have to be looked at, i didn't see keegans injury but by sounds of it it was reckless and actually dangerous to allow him continue playing, perhaps fines against cb, and maybe sideline ban for those who make a player continue would be one way of making them think.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts:8515 - 31/01/2016 20:52:28Is there any strict guidelines around concussion in the GAA? Rugby has different guidelines for pro and amateur rugby and in amateur rugby you have to wait 2-3 weeks before returning to matches. Whats the case in GAA?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 31/01/2016 21:46:16    1821085

Agree with everything thats been said already, Terrible call to leave him on the field but at least they have admitted they were wrong and havent tried to bluff their way out of it, hopefully lesson learned,

McFan88 (Limerick) - Posts: 447 - 01/02/2016 08:26:29    1821111

Really poor error of judgement from the Mayo medical staff alright - would like to hear what the on field test he passed entailed. Think we also have to commend Mayo co board though for admitting mistakes were made - better than the attitude we saw after the 2013 AI final when the Dubs brushed the concussion incident with Rory O'Carroll under the carpet.

blacknamber (Kerry) - Posts: 267 - 01/02/2016 08:49:58    1821118

This incident was shocking. We just don't realise the damage that these concussions can do. There needs to be new measures introduced. I think there should be compulsory head gear for all players similar to scrum caps worn by rugby players

as per brian o driscoll scrum caps offer no extra protection from concussion and only from lacerations and weve seen from nfl headgear isn't the answer either.

jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1159 - 01/02/2016 09:28:45    1821128

A mistake was made. Hopefully they'll learn from it. Our own medical staff and management didn't cover themselves in glory during the All-Ireland Final in 2013 when Rory O'Carroll was concussed.

Concussion is a very serious issue. We're seeing players in the NFL is the US having awful problems later in life because of it. Those problems are coming down the tracks in rugby and are going to cause major problems for the sport going forward.

I'm not sure though what the GAA need to do on this. Maybe fines or suspensions for counties that leave players on. To be so draconian in dealing with it that managers will always ere on the side of caution.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13705 - 01/02/2016 10:11:06    1821150

Ormond Its not strict but 10 days is the norm, if graham starts next week it will be 14 days since he got concussed , I dont think that is probably long enough but we can only go on medical advice.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 01/02/2016 11:00:02    1821182

A very bad call alright and should not have happened but I am hearing that Lee passed all the quick on field tests....and you can see him saying on the video "I am ok"....maybe this process needs to be changed. The Mayo medical team headed by Dr.Sean Moffatt is one of the best out there and Moffatt is regarding as a leading figure in player welfare and is well known around the country.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11227 - 01/02/2016 11:15:42    1821190

The whole affair was handled very badly by Mayo's medical team and then to leave a concussed man sitting on the bench on his own with no one watching out for him looked very bad , surely they should of at least brought him inside to check over him to get him out of that cold weather ffs.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 01/02/2016 11:26:52    1821195