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Is that article on the front page for real? Crying about not getting a few more thousand? Did they want a private jet for the end of year holiday or what?

redhanddefender (Tyrone) - Posts: 913 - 08/12/2015 09:45:29    1811909

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1811909 Is that article on the front page for real? Crying about not getting a few more thousand? Did they want a private jet for the end of year holiday or what?

Easily upset or what?

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 08/12/2015 10:01:42    1811914

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Did you even bother to read the article ?
Would you feel any different if shoe was on the other foot ?
Await your answers RedHand

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 08/12/2015 10:01:44    1811915

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Costello makes a fair point I think. Without Dublin playing games in Croke Park they and businesses in Drumcondra and the rest of Dublin would be a lot worse off.

They should give them a jet too. Sure couldn't they get Gavin to fly it!

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7335 - 08/12/2015 10:04:55    1811916

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Private jet would do just fine.We could save on the pilot costs as our own leader,Jim Gavin,can get behind the wheel and fly us anywhere around the globe.Is there anything we can't do?

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 08/12/2015 10:47:00    1811929

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Croke park stadium Which is a seperate Company need scrutinising closely.They get away with a lot. Provided with top class entertainers who have made considerable personal sacrifice without salary ,fee or payment. Do the executives then get highly remunerated for the profits they 'make'. It is not too much to ask that an amount equivalent to what players would get if professional was paid from croke park stadium to team holiday funds.After all the crowd come to see the players not the well suited up men.

If Dublin can only get 15k out of them the other Countys allocation must be very miserable. I think this is an issue about treating all players fairly, Not just Dublin players.

Ashrules (Dublin) - Posts: 518 - 08/12/2015 10:47:47    1811931

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Mayo, Kerry and Tyrone would have overnighted in hotels before their semi finals. Dublin sleep in their own beds. Hotel beds in Dublin in August don't come cheap. John Costelloe has a point about players filling Croke Park. Which county holidays does he expect Croke Park to finance ? Those of the counties who reach the later stages of the championship ? Those are generally successful counties who can generate substantial income streams themselves. Surely if he expects Croke Park to provide finance for a Dublin team holiday he would be amenable to the idea of Croke Park providing finance for team holidays for the weaker, less successful counties. A lot of the weaker are out training now. John Costelloe is bang on the money when he talks about Sigerson Cup football as opposed to U 21 football.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 08/12/2015 10:55:38    1811935

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Nah not for me. Dublin have plenty to cover their own holiday, use the money somewhere where it is actually needed. It appears there are a few scrooges in this piece.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 08/12/2015 11:21:46    1811942

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Did they want a private jet for the end of year holiday or what?

Yep! And chauffeur driven cars to the airport too while we're at it.

CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 08/12/2015 11:35:08    1811950

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1811942 Nah not for me. Dublin have plenty to cover their own holiday, use the money somewhere where it is actually needed. It appears there are a few scrooges in this piece.
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God, I am very surprised at The Master's response.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 08/12/2015 11:42:58    1811952

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Bloody hell

Ridiculous title...

As Damo said... did you read the article redhand?

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 08/12/2015 11:57:12    1811957

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God, I am very surprised at The Master's response.

Well by god I'm not lol...

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 08/12/2015 12:26:03    1811964

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avonali
God, I am very surprised at The Master's response.


Afraid to address the actual point then? Row the wagons and cry conspiracy appears to be the default setting. But the bottom line is this, Dublin could send their team on 20 holidays and still have spare change for rounds at the bar. They don't need this cash, but other teams do. Some counties couldn't even afford to put their team up overnight for a game, they had to travel up in the morning. So for Dublin to be cribbing over not getting funded to go on a jolly for themselves with gaa money is ridiculous. There are more pressing concerns in the gaa, so frankly, pay for your own holiday.

If you have an issue with croke park's stance, play your games in parnell park and do what you like with your own money. You cant have it every way.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 08/12/2015 12:32:14    1811968

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Typical Master , the fella spends all his time spouting on about fairness and equality and boy does he go on , yet on this occasion Dublin should be treated differently , double standards you couldn't make it up ,
So to summarise
Dublin sponsorship should be equally distributed
Gate receipts equally distributed ,
Central funding equally distributed ,
But holiday fund , feck off you have enough .
On a different note we don't need a private jet lads , fans are walking on air and Jim Gavin walks on water .

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 08/12/2015 12:35:08    1811972

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Listen

The lads got their trip thanks to the fans...

They are over there now I believe - Phuket Island with their families

Hugely deserved for all they achieved in 2015 - Won it all

As you said Damo - walking on air is right!

Great to see the Dub Boden Lads get their rewards on the pitch while missing out on the team holiday

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 08/12/2015 13:28:12    1811986

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Dublin blow everyone away in terms of money from the GAA, corporate sponsorship, and gates for obvious reason. If they want to play away on their own then work away but eventually it will have to be the case that the playing field is levelled. The smallest counties should be getting the most money from the GAA/Croke park or wherever and guided into how to use it the best.

This backward allocation of funds to those with the biggest populations without looking at any other factors is the easy option and typical of the southern way of working.

It would fit Dublin better if they worked out how to help the smaller counties in leinster around them for the good of the game than crying about a few shillings. There should be more of what croke park demonstrated here, and the Dubs should not be crying about it.

They need the rest of us as much as we need them

redhanddefender (Tyrone) - Posts: 913 - 08/12/2015 13:42:13    1811992

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Before talking about Dublin V Other Counties. Any opinions about what Croke Park Stadium should be contributing to whatever County teams bring crowds there?. How much was Garth Brooks going to get?

Alternatively if felt teams bringing crowds don't deserve more than other teams(Communist approach), How much should the stadium pass onto GPA for redistribution?

Incidently there are already plenty of full time employees.They are not asked to work as amateurs/volunteers.

Ashrules (Dublin) - Posts: 518 - 08/12/2015 13:42:58    1811993

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To be fair to John Costelloe it's very hard to argue with his view in relation to this matter. No doubt the Dubs could easily survive without these grants as they are by far the most lucrative set-up in the country. But I find it astonishing that their reward for contributing towards another sell out for AI semi replay is a paltry €5k. On the back of this replay Croke Park generated an extra €2m in gate receipts and decide to give the Dubs an extra €5k towards their holiday fund? Not sure what Mayo got but I would imagine it was significantly more because if not they should have been up in arms about it.

Greenwood (Meath) - Posts: 210 - 08/12/2015 13:50:50    1812000

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jimbodub your well fond of starting misleading thread titles to poke a bit of fun at someone else....show on the other foot. Suck it up and take it.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11227 - 08/12/2015 14:04:47    1812003

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Alternatively if felt teams bringing crowds don't deserve more than other teams(Communist approach), How much should the stadium pass onto GPA for redistribution?


The GPA should get nothing, as I imagine their handling fee would be pretty high! the whole funding situation needs reviewed, but like anything else it won't happen.

redhanddefender (Tyrone) - Posts: 913 - 08/12/2015 14:08:40    1812005

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