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"Sometimes you just sit back and admire them"

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A quote form Limerick hurler Seamus Hickey in referring to the Kilkenny team.
Id say the Kerry team of the 2000s wish that the likes of Tyrone and Armagh had that mentality.
Would have made life alot easier for them.
Hopefully, sooner rather than later the cats will encounter a few teams who dont admire them and are not afraid of them and we might have a championship again.

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 26/09/2015 16:29:16    1792605

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+1

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1062 - 26/09/2015 21:00:59    1792652

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Yes, very interesting comments they were joncarter

If Jimmy McGuinness was the manager of Limerick he'd be off the panel straight away!

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 26/09/2015 21:58:45    1792663

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Joncarter still upset over the all Ireland.

johnwhite12 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 306 - 27/09/2015 09:07:50    1792664

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JonCarter

Interesting indeed. There seems to be two categories of supporters these days. There are those that fawn and drool over everything that they do and proclaim how great their complete dominance is for the sport. Respect cannot manifest itself in any other way. If you say anything to the contrary (i.e. maybe that you would like to see another team win) you fall into category two; a pathetic, whinging, begrudger...

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 27/09/2015 11:24:37    1792680

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In fairness to Seamus Hickey he is never one for sitting back. Im sure his statement was in the context of being am observer not a player.

ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 693 - 27/09/2015 12:20:04    1792687

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Admiration, respect and praise for your opponent should be solely kept for end of season award ceremonies, dinner dances and 2.00 in the morning at a club do when you are hammered. Tyrone, Armagh, Meath, Donegal showed Kerry and Dublin no respect or fear on the pitch and beat them. Mayo and Cork were full of nerves and negative expectation and Kerry consequently whalloped them. Learn the lesson.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9702 - 27/09/2015 12:46:04    1792694

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KK are champions and time to move on from this but I would say that Galway played the best hurling this year overall and they need to come back with a bit of optimism in 16. Time is right to reform the ref selection process also and train a panel of Connacht/Ulster refs for next championship.

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1669 - 27/09/2015 12:55:59    1792696

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Poor Mayo.

We can't even have a thread about what a Limerick hurler said about the Kilkenny hurlers without the Mayo footballers being dragged in to it. We should really just have three threads on here: Mayo Bashing, Begrudging the Dubs, Fear and Loathing in Ulster Football.

As for the matter at hand. In fairness to Seamus Hickey he didn't seem to be doing too much sitting back and admiring when he won MotM in that brilliant semi final in the monsoon last year so his comments might seem defeatist but I think he gets a free pass here.

roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 27/09/2015 14:02:25    1792716

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I think Hickey's comments are slightly out of context. Hickey is not a bottler he is just making an obeservation, you can admire people and still knife them in the back - it is very easy.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 27/09/2015 18:38:36    1792770

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Indeed arock the Irish, North & South, are very adapt at that. In life, work, sport, socially we are masters of this. When you get 3 people sitting in the works canteen or in a bar or standing talking in the street, when one leaves 99 times out of 100, the other two will take about him/her in a negative way.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9702 - 27/09/2015 19:51:03    1792797

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roundball
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1792716 Poor Mayo.

We can't even have a thread about what a Limerick hurler said about the Kilkenny hurlers without the Mayo footballers being dragged in to it. We should really just have three threads on here: Mayo Bashing, Begrudging the Dubs, Fear and Loathing in Ulster Football.

Hahaha... Brilliant

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 28/09/2015 12:25:33    1793024

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Seamus has been in the media a lot recently.

I think the majority of us in Limerick would prefer him not to be admiring anyone only his own team, would prefer him to be giving displays like the one he did against the cats in 2014 and to be working his ******ks off against them and all the others, not admiring them.

I admire Kilkenny but I want our hurlers to stand up to them, bully them, beat them when we meet. The last time I saw us beat them in a meaningful game was 1997 and for a lot of us in Limerick the time for admiring others is over.

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 28/09/2015 12:41:32    1793032

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slayer

Surely you'd be happy enough for Seamus to be sitting back admiring that U21 team of yours ;)

Bad year this year for Limerick but the graph in generally upwards...

roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 28/09/2015 13:31:29    1793077

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roundball

I don't see why any Limerick hurler should admire any hurler(s) of any other county.

I guess for me, hearing that one of our top hurlers is admiring another team (even Kilkenny) just pi55e5 me off. Kilkenny are a great team, but they have built up a structure and momentum that only needs a tweaking most years to make it work. So many sides have pushed them all the way, few have won. But that doesn't mean it can't happen. What all counties who play them need is a ferocity, team ethic, work rate and belief that they can. I think we have the hurlers to do it and Mr. Hickey is one of them. As a county, we should be fearing nobody.

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 28/09/2015 13:53:23    1793097

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Ulsterman
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Admiration, respect and praise for your opponent should be solely kept for end of season award ceremonies, dinner dances and 2.00 in the morning at a club do when you are hammered. Tyrone, Armagh, Meath, Donegal showed Kerry and Dublin no respect or fear on the pitch and beat them. Mayo and Cork were full of nerves and negative expectation and Kerry consequently whalloped them. Learn the lesson.


The likes of Tyrone and Armagh were also simply better teams than the Cork and Mayo sides of that era. None of the sides you listed have beaten either Dublin or Kerry in their recent championship meetings.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 28/09/2015 14:42:56    1793129

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