Not sure what happened exactly, was it an issue with security or the fellah at the gate getting carried away with his authority. The whole Croke Park experience is getting a bit ridiculous even the stewards inside the stadium have no interest in directing patrons to their seats. The 1990 Cork team should have refused to take part in the jubilee presentation over this. I am a bit surprised they did to be honest. For a man who did so much for Cork GAA, it was a poor reflection on how you would stand by a team mate.

The_Bull (Cork) - Posts: 248 - 21/09/2015 18:12:07    1790313

21/09/2015 18:12:07
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Not sure what happened exactly, was it an issue with security or the fellah at the gate getting carried away with his authority. The whole Croke Park experience is getting a bit ridiculous even the stewards inside the stadium have no interest in directing patrons to their seats. The 1990 Cork team should have refused to take part in the jubilee presentation over this. I am a bit surprised they did to be honest. For a man who did so much for Cork GAA, it was a poor reflection on how you would stand by a team mate. Seems to have been a bit of everything. Perhaps McCarthy went to wrong gate was told go to another and that was wrong information and all a big mix up. People got in a tiz and he went home

I think your idea about experience of/in ground is a bit OTT and that team refusing to take part would have been silly and most of the guys may not have known what had went on. It wasn't at all a poor reflection on those guys.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 21/09/2015 18:56:21    1790335

Surely he knew the right gate was he not there with the hurling 2 weeks ago. Can't blame him for getting irked some of those croke park stewards wud drive you to drink. Heard stories of lads having run ins with them.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 21/09/2015 19:05:33    1790342

Ya- I would not go as far as saying they should have pulled out. It sounds like it was partially a mistake of Teddy and bit of the Croke Park steward. It is a bit irritating certainly but no more than that. Teddy himself seems to be over it.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 21/09/2015 19:14:10    1790345

Fair enough it was a mess up but to go home is abit over the top ,no? sounds very childish to me from teddy

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 21/09/2015 19:21:49    1790348

I find this story hard to believe.... I've been to Croke Park.. many times... Hill, Premium and guest and at all times everyone was very helpful.... I would say there was an argument and Teddy was stubborn and dug his heals in!!

He might have won 2 All_irelands in the same month ... but no one ever else was refused!!!

I thought it strange yesterday when Billy Morgan represented Teddy!!! Now we know.
Who comes out of this worse... Tedddy, he missed out on a match, meeting old friend/team-mates!! Maybe the steward instructed teddy to go a different route or gate...... I don't believe he was refused!!!

cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1673 - 21/09/2015 19:24:51    1790351

Sounds like a misunderstanding,but seems a bit over the top that Teddy decided to just drive home to Cork and watch the game in a pub on the way.Maybe Teddy has a bad temper,but why cut off your nose to spite your face?What a wasted journey.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 21/09/2015 19:31:22    1790353

There are 2 sides to every story.I'ld say Teddy played his part.

Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 21/09/2015 19:37:42    1790356

Sad thing is that the TV don't seem to show the jubilee team anymore live

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1908 - 21/09/2015 20:01:01    1790368

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There are 2 sides to every story.I'ld say Teddy played his part.

True but the attitude and rough house approach of the security in Croke Park has been documented here before.Back in 1990 Teddy McCarthy stayed away from the presentation of the Sam Maguire in the Hoganstand to deflect the attention he was rightly going to receive. He was a great team player for Cork in both codes. Ormond, I think the team would have been made aware of what happened when he was missing from the lunch. I know some people may think I am extreme in thinking the team should have stood by him and boycotted the presentation to the crowd. They didn't mind having Teddy McCarthy as a team-mate when he was a superstar back in the 80's.

The_Bull (Cork) - Posts: 248 - 21/09/2015 20:12:33    1790379

Bull thats nonsense.Because Teddy decided to drive all the way home to Cork,you wanted the other 20 or so lads to boycott the event?Another Cork strike wouldn't have gone down very well.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 21/09/2015 20:20:10    1790383

So the Cork team should have not partaken in solidarity because one of their members threw a fit and went home, simply for being redirected to the correct entrance? Teddy McCarthy doesnt come out of this looking great to be honest, no matter how nasty people reckon the Croke Park stewards are.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1643 - 21/09/2015 21:55:40    1790457

I think all cork teams and television pundits should go on strike immediately and indefinitely. Especially the pundits

flack (Dublin) - Posts: 1054 - 22/09/2015 08:18:40    1790466

Probably the biggest difference between croker and any other GAA grounds (including Parnell) is the treatment you get, everywhere else the staff are genuine, sound and very helpful, in croker they are mostly ar**holes and a lot if them give the impression that they hate the sight of you. Teddy always struck me as the kind of guy that doesn't take sh*t off anyone, the other lads are probably of milkier blood. It's a pity there isn't more like him anyway, we mightnt be in the state we're in

flack (Dublin) - Posts: 1054 - 22/09/2015 08:25:28    1790468

Some of the security people around Croke Park are rude and bad communicators. Effectively, they are bad at their jobs. Teddy probably met a couple of these and didn't have the patience to be dealing with them. I don't blame him. However, most of the security team around croke park are reasonable to deal with. Very few of them are pleasant all the same.

pdempsey (Mayo) - Posts: 1313 - 22/09/2015 08:51:42    1790473

sounds like the toys were thrown out of the pram by Teddy.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1799 - 22/09/2015 09:24:05    1790480

21/09/2015 20:12:33
The_Bull
True but the attitude and rough house approach of the security in Croke Park has been documented here before. Back in 1990 Teddy McCarthy stayed away from the presentation of the Sam Maguire in the Hoganstand to deflect the attention he was rightly going to receive. He was a great team player for Cork in both codes. Ormond, I think the team would have been made aware of what happened when he was missing from the lunch. I know some people may think I am extreme in thinking the team should have stood by him and boycotted the presentation to the crowd. They didn't mind having Teddy McCarthy as a team-mate when he was a superstar back in the 80's. Of course theyd be aware he wasn't there but for the reasons why they wouldn't. I think you are completely wrong to say the team should have boycotted the presentation as from all accounts McCarthy over reacted and a hissy fit and drove home instead of being rational

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 22/09/2015 09:40:56    1790489

Explain to me how all other Jubilee teams over the years never had a problem?

Explain to me how there were no problems for the Cork '90 hurling team or Teddy?

Explain to me how all the rest of the football team got in no problem?

Maybe more to this than meets the eye

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 22/09/2015 10:25:16    1790511

We may or may not hear Croke Park's side of the story re Teddy Mac. Usually, when they are in the wrong they remain mute.
However, the presentation for the Cork 1990 hurlers was the worst I have seen on All Ireland day. No fault attributed to the Galway minors as they gaily celebrated with the Cup around the field. The speaker announcing the names of the Cork 1990 winning hurling team was inaudible as many in the attendance were attracted to the celebrations by the Galway minors and the applause was in the main for the Galwegians.
You pay your €5 for your programme on Final day and it is full of announcements "preaching" to spectators re H. & S. and Rules and Regulations that we all must abide by. In the front pages of that programme is one full page devoted to the timetable for the day. Croke Park on All Ireland day is chocker block with paid staff. How they could not maanage their own timetable and ensure the Cork hurlers were given the due respect they deserved was unforgiving?

ballagoballa (UK) - Posts: 49 - 22/09/2015 11:12:22    1790560

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We may or may not hear Croke Park's side of the story re Teddy Mac. Usually, when they are in the wrong they remain mute.
However, the presentation for the Cork 1990 hurlers was the worst I have seen on All Ireland day. No fault attributed to the Galway minors as they gaily celebrated with the Cup around the field. The speaker announcing the names of the Cork 1990 winning hurling team was inaudible as many in the attendance were attracted to the celebrations by the Galway minors and the applause was in the main for the Galwegians.
You pay your €5 for your programme on Final day and it is full of announcements "preaching" to spectators re H. & S. and Rules and Regulations that we all must abide by. In the front pages of that programme is one full page devoted to the timetable for the day. Croke Park on All Ireland day is chocker block with paid staff. How they could not maanage their own timetable and ensure the Cork hurlers were given the due respect they deserved was unforgiving?

It could be the case of Croke Park staying mute in order to be sound to Teddy McCarthy maybe.

I'll agree that the Cork jubilee teams presentation was poor alright though.

When the Dubs players were all going up to lift the Sam they were showing it on the big screen, halfway through they cut to a H&S notice regarding Jones' Rd after the match. They could have done that at a more appropriate time for me as it was difficult to see who was lifting the cup from the stands/terraces without the big screen. Poor effort I thought.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13707 - 22/09/2015 11:53:46    1790603