I know it may seem a strange call but look at it from this point of view.

These guys put their bodies through unbelievable stress during the winter months in order to prepare for big championship games. Stuff that most of them would have dreamt about from a very young age. Running out in front of 80,000 people in big games representing their county, city, town, village, parish.

Is it really fair that one moment of sheer stupidity or a reckless act should end their chances of doing exactly that ?

Everyone has a point where they snap. For whatever reason. And i'm not condoning it in any way shape or form. But there is a difference between intentionally setting out to hurt an opponent, And reacting and/or doing something wrecklesss in the heat of the moment.

These guys are only human. Like you or I. Nobody can say they have never said, or done something to someone in the heat of the moment. Its just an instinctive thing.

For them to lose out on a huge game because of such an incident is harsh in my view.

Sure, send the guy off at the time. End his game, But I dont think they should be banned from featuring in the next one.

I stress however, that if an opposition player is battered to a pulp without provocation, Bitten, Spat at etc then bans are of course necessary. This is more for players who get straight reds for reckless tackles, or instictive reactions to provocation like a strike/attempted strike similar to what we saw last weekend with Diarmuid Connolly, and previously with Kevin Keane.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 02/09/2015 17:27:30    1780823

I have sympathy with your point wayno but I can't agree.

Even with the rules as they are carnage was only just avoided last Sunday. Any relaxation would be a license to kill.

There were one or two players who completely lost the run of themselves & I don't care how much work they have put in, either control yourself or face the consequences.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 02/09/2015 18:00:46    1780840

I disagree. Ban them especially when they are Diarmuid Connolly. You commit the crime you do the time.

geoffmcgonagle (USA) - Posts: 54 - 02/09/2015 18:11:56    1780843

I get what you are saying and completely understand but it is not feasible..

You would have lads getting sent off left right and centre at the end of games..

Plus to a point the black card is meant to take on a lot of what you are saying. .

More consistency by the chc is needed..

AthCliath87 (Dublin) - Posts: 345 - 02/09/2015 18:48:28    1780857

I get what you are saying and completely understand but it is not feasible..

You would have lads getting sent off left right and centre at the end of games..

Plus to a point the black card is meant to take on a lot of what you are saying. .

More consistency by the chc is needed..

AthCliath87 (Dublin) - Posts: 345 - 02/09/2015 19:09:09    1780860

Geoffmcgonagle that is a highly uneducated and childish remark regarding Connolly

AthCliath87 (Dublin) - Posts: 345 - 02/09/2015 19:10:26    1780862

No it's not in any way a childish remark. The obvious bias Dublin fans show sometimes is astonishing.

Jimin10 (Meath) - Posts: 783 - 02/09/2015 19:22:12    1780865

Not a hope, even if its means missing an All Ireland final. It doesn't matter whether they are GAA players or professional players, they all train as hard as each other, they all have their dreams and hopes, and the punishment that comes with a red card should be the same whether they are GAA players or professional football players. While it's for another thread the entire discipline area is a joke in the GAA, with players appealing every red card and more often or not they get away with it. This either means that referees are constantly getting calls wrong, or the appeals process is a joke, I happen to think it's the latter.

gilly0512 (Galway) - Posts: 1176 - 02/09/2015 19:24:28    1780867

There were one or two players who completely lost the run of themselves & I don't care how much work they have put in, either control yourself or face the consequences.

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Easier said than done.

The one or two players who lost the run of themselves. Who are we talking about ?

Johnny Cooper ? His incident was the first few minutes if memory serves me right ? Send him off. Fair enough

Im not asking or making the point for in match sending offs to be stopped.

I just think it is very simple for someone to lose the rag for one split second and instantly regret their actions

All well and good saying if he cant control himself, Listen, You can go back in your life im sure and pick out moments where you done or said something deplorable in the heat of the moment and instantly regret it. You've probably done it on a football pitch. Its not just a case of being able to calm yourself when you are playing in a high octane game such as the one last weekend.

For all a guys hard work in a year, to lose his chance because of a moment of madness is just harsh in my opinion. Send them off but leave them be after that except for extreme circumstances.

Thats my view anyway

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 02/09/2015 19:36:13    1780873

get what you are saying and completely understand but it is not feasible..

You would have lads getting sent off left right and centre at the end of games..

Plus to a point the black card is meant to take on a lot of what you are saying. .

More consistency by the chc is needed..

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Not really though.

The black card is brought in for cynicism only.

You can also replace someone who is black carded.

One leaves you at a complete disadvantage by losing a man completely regardless of how long is left.

The other lets you bring on someone in his place.

We wont agree AthCliath87 but i respect your view.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 02/09/2015 19:42:49    1780879

Personally thought my remark was highly educated and highly mature re Connolly. Can't please everyone I suppose.

geoffmcgonagle (USA) - Posts: 54 - 02/09/2015 19:46:06    1780885

waynoI, I've read it all now.

Long time reader, but after that post, I've finally wised up and will put a stop to this madness of mine. This forum is......well, not what it used to be.

p.s.
I take it you have never played the game, because only a man that hasn't played the game would come up with that idea and if you have, its something worse for you my friend.

Checkers (UK) - Posts: 24 - 02/09/2015 19:56:47    1780889

Jimin10
County: Meath
Posts: 548

1780865 No it's not in any way a childish remark. The obvious bias Dublin fans show sometimes is astonishing.

The obvious anti Dublin rubbish meath fans show is astonishing!!

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 02/09/2015 19:57:59    1780890

Wayno you are giving licences to lads to do whatever they feel like in a game. A man can go out with the sole intention of hurting someone and wont face any rebuttal. I sympathise with any man who loses it in the heat of the moment but it's all about discipline. It's a skill of the game, just like soloing the ball or putting it over the bar.

Who's this mcgonigle clown? Awful attempt at trolling.

Speaking of Connolly he has to get off for one reason only. Kevin Keane

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 02/09/2015 20:14:17    1780898

geoffmcgonagle
County: USA
Posts: 52

1780885 Personally thought my remark was highly educated and highly mature re Connolly. Can't please everyone I suppose.

Very childish remark ref Connolly

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 02/09/2015 20:16:46    1780899

cannot agree with this
imagine 5 minutes to go
whats to stop players badly injuring a player on the opposition
that injured player could miss a few months of matches
while the player who hurt him and got sent off is playing the following week

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 02/09/2015 20:16:51    1780900