Suppose it is better late than never. But again another example of the GAA reacting to the media. "I like analysis where people say something is wrong and where they point out that something could be improved. There's nothing wrong with that but using that type of language is not something I like."

What does it matter what RTE or anyone else says? Maybe if he got the finger out instead of seeing which way the media wind is blowing.

Might not like what they say, they are entitled to say it, just like everyone on here.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 25/08/2015 10:39:26    1775741

I found the interaction between Whelan, O'Rourke and Brolly interesting on Sunday. Brolly has a terrible habit of talking under other people. Not over as he is not as loud, but others start talking and he talks in a lower less loud voice.

Whelan seemed to be pulling his hair out. He'd try to talk and Brolly would but in. He was highlighting the Kerry half back line from 2014 when Brolly said 'they're sweepers'. Whelan had to explain why they were not. Then O'Rourke would start talking, turn away from Whelan and look towards Lyster. It all looked very disorganised. Then you had the pundits saying penalty, only for later that night the panel on the Sunday Game saying no penno.

When Lyster tried to introduce a competition Brolly interrupted him again to say there was 'no chance' of it being a great game.

All in all it doesn't look very organised. While the President's comments might not have been that well thought out, is there anyone who switches on RTE's Gaelic Football coverage and thinks 'great'?

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 25/08/2015 11:14:50    1775772

Sky have now rte on the run. The analysis is clear and unbiased. It has much less ego, and it has freshened up the coverage. It is a pity that there is a financial angle to it, as many wont be able to afford to watch it without going to a friends house or going to a hotel or pub. (or go to the game itself).

RTE coverage is poor and has been for a very long time. Fair play to michael lyster. He has chaired an impossible debate.

RTE have a hope, they have got to draught in Oshea, Wheelan and someone like Dermot Early for the live football, as these guys know the modern game, have manners, and are well balanced.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 25/08/2015 11:39:06    1775781

I honestly don't know what the panelists have been saying, I really have little or no interest in tv analysis, I just see it as filler tv but the president of the Gaa coming out criticizing them is a poor move from my point of view. All he's really doing is stating that he pays attention to them (their ultimate goal being attention) and that gives them a sort of credibility, just ignore them, it drives them insane.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 25/08/2015 11:39:20    1775782

they have to try and keep the rating up for RTE etc ... the stuff brolly comes out with keeps people watching simple as .

HurlerOnTheFenc (Mayo) - Posts: 282 - 25/08/2015 11:41:18    1775786

About time someone in GAA Officialdom spoke up about unfair treatment of GAA on RTE in general. Of course negative incidents happen in GAA but they happen in all sports. There are brawls in other games (one in particular where it is benignly referred to as a bit of afters) Sledging frequently goes on in Cricket and rugby (some scrum halves were famous for it). If RTE were to act in a balanced manner they should treat all sports equally which they clearly are not.

mod (Mayo) - Posts: 859 - 25/08/2015 11:43:07    1775789

I personally enjoy it to be honest.. They speak from the heart and gut like most of us on here - which means they and we can get things wrong a lot of the time.

Every week Brolly is on we are talking about something he has said for days.

Whelan is very good IMO as regards analysis of the game.

I do enjoy Canavan on Sky Sports and they have the fancy technology to do in depth analysis but they are also censored as to what they can say.

AthCliath87 (Dublin) - Posts: 345 - 25/08/2015 11:46:05    1775791

There is no point watching the analysis because Brolly will just interrupt everybody. Its becoming very tedious. Whelan and O'Rourke couldn't even finish the first sentence before Brolly would go off again. I hate to say it but if there were matches on both sky and rte id rather watch sky.

cavan97 (Cavan) - Posts: 369 - 25/08/2015 11:48:27    1775793

Agreed slayer. The whole thing is completely uncomfortable viewing with little quality analysis or debate going on. Brolly has too many axes to grind, while he has crossed swords with the other pundits. Sky are making ground on them, getting the likes of canavan and mcguinness in.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 25/08/2015 11:49:23    1775795

Yes yes your are totally correct Brolly does butt in to other panelists contribution and it can be hard to watch! Haven't said that the Sunday Game would be dull without him. However, I think RTE will have to try and have better control over what these pundits say as it does too frequently cause offence to some players and their managers and some of the references used by Brolly are inappropriate such as on Sunday saying "what adults do in private is..."therefore please watch the language as it is OFFENSIVE!!!

GalloonBaffoon (Fermanagh) - Posts: 119 - 25/08/2015 11:53:27    1775799

Sounds like Aogán is preparing the ground to give more leeway to Sky. Which would be a disaster for our games. I don't trust this guy.

roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 25/08/2015 11:54:44    1775800

You dont get any analysis just constant interuptions from Brolly and the bitterness of Spillane and O Rourke, O Rourke tried to suggest the O Se black card was a dive and then spent the rest of the time back tracking cos he had previously went over the top on Tyrone. Couple this with the carry on from Cake on the SG with his triangles, vertical balls etc. references and its like a scene from a Mario Rosenstock show.

Whelan was actually providing some decent analysis on sunday and is generally very good but it all got lost with the interruptions of one and back tracking of the other. And there are others out there quite good, Mc Guinness has been excellent when ive seen him, actually analyses the game, there are others out there too.

I mean Killian Young cynically pulled down a player earlier this summer and Brolly praised him and not one pulled him up on it yet he slated Cavanagh for the same thing.

Some people seem to think a few soundbites and going against the grain represent good analysis. But here is a question for the GAA.

Why are you listening to these people and reacting in the first place with the Mc Cann situation and the black card farcical situation that has actually encouraged diving rather than pro actively running the organisation?

Little point in criticising RTE analysis then letting the tail wag the dog by reacting to their analysis and in most cases actually making a bad situation worse.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1337 - 25/08/2015 12:00:33    1775805

I have met very few people in monaghan who find the experts on the Sunday game either negative or predictable. Remember they merely pointed out examples of cheating which stopped monaghan from winning the two all Ireland we deserved. With brolly acting as the referee policeman we now expect fair play and should win the titles that our wonderful team deserve. Typical of a cavan man to ignore the tragic injustice done to his more successful neighbours.

farneyforsam (Monaghan) - Posts: 35 - 25/08/2015 12:17:55    1775828

Master, I think Sky have left RTE behind . Their analysis is clear and insightful . The hosts are organised and address issues concerning the games. The whole thing is well structured . RTE's analysis is a lot less structured .

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 25/08/2015 12:20:13    1775831

I don't bother with anything other than the live matches anymore as it's just tedious listening to certain people waffle on and on.

Regardless of what match it is the build up generally consists of the pundits saying it will be a poor match which is surely the antithesis of the buildup show where they should be tryin to entice people to stay tuned.And the negativity of teh sunday game towards football is becoming depressing.

Sky pundits are much better.Although Darragh O'Se shouldn't be on whenever Kerry are playing his bias on Sunday after the match was clear.

McGuinness and Horan are top class and I enjoy Senan Connell as he has great enthusiasm for the game and always seems to be enjoying himself which cannot be said for the 3 main RTE pundits.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 25/08/2015 12:27:37    1775841

The GAA is badly run. The Sunday Game has been doing the opposite of promoting Gaelic Football for years and yet they continue to be awarded the main coverage.

The GAA should be in the driving seat not RTE.

tyroneed (Tyrone) - Posts: 753 - 25/08/2015 12:31:28    1775844

Very disturbing comments from our GAA President, personally I find watching Sky as interesting as watching paint dry and I believe RTE and their panellists offer far more passion on the game and better analysis. I'd rather see a game analysed by off the cuff outspoken individuals like Brolly, Whelan, O'Rourke, Spillane and McStay etc. I'm really starting to think there is a concerted drive to criticise RTE and the Sunday Game as much as possible and people should really start to see the wood from the trees in this regard

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 25/08/2015 13:01:56    1775864

I agree slayer re Brolly continually interrupting, it annoys me as well. Whilst I tend to agree with most of his comments I find it a touch dismissive of others opinions.

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 25/08/2015 13:04:26    1775868

Sounds like Aogán is preparing the ground to give more leeway to Sky. Which would be a disaster for our games. I don't trust this guy.

Strange thing to say there roundball, feel free to elaborate

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 25/08/2015 13:07:25    1775869

Can anyone honestly say that the Sky football coverage is better than RTE? Peter Canavan and Jim McGuinness are the only ones worth watching. That this year there was no coverage of any of the quarter finals on terrestrial tv is not a good sign of things to come. Sky presenters have spent years telling people that every soccer game on the box is fantastic when it is not. We need Pundits to call it as it is, and if it's rubbish they should call it.. if it is a great game then the RTE pundits will also call it likewise.. There was a mistake on the penalty on the live show and it was corrected in the evening show, well done to RTE for doing this. It was the truth and they ran with it.. fair dues to them.

Farney (Monaghan) - Posts: 801 - 25/08/2015 13:13:36    1775873