That was epic stuff today.
Compared to the antics in the Mon/Tyr game last week we really need to look at what's going on in football.
No diving.
No one trying to get a lad sent off.
I actually think lar Corbett told the linesman he was wrong to award a 45 to Tipp!
Manly thought stuff.

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 16/08/2015 17:44:30    1770958

Here we go again - another forum taking cheap shots at Tyrone. Get over it and focus on a great game of hurling today - the only good hurling match all year, one swallow doesn't make a summer. I also believe bar the last 10 mins the Tyrone vMonaghan game best football match. Hide your head in shame!!!

IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 16/08/2015 18:11:59    1770987

Compare that game to the last two Ulster SFC finals.

Hurling is miles ahead of football right now as a spectacle.

Ned_Stormcrow (Cavan) - Posts: 1071 - 16/08/2015 18:22:09    1770996

It's a post about the general antics demonstrated last week and in other games, like Kerry v Cork so it's not a thread against Tyrone.
No feigning injury, no rubbish just two teams going at it.
Football has a problem and if you think last weeks game was one of the best of the year then you are deluded.

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 16/08/2015 18:25:06    1770998

Double standards here. If a Tyrone defender fouled the way Hanbury pulled down callinane for the missed penalty there would be war. It was the most cynical foul of the year

Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 766 - 16/08/2015 18:30:11    1771002

Malonemagic,
I disagree yes it was a foul, a penalty awarded and no moaning after.
Today we saw two teams who just wanted to play and win.
No attempt to get a man sent off or con the ref.
Hard hits , blooded and unbowed these guy showed real courage.
Not the stuff we witnessed last week.

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 16/08/2015 18:46:17    1771019

What is your point malonemagic. Are you defending Tyrone. I dont hear anyone from tipp complaining.

ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 693 - 16/08/2015 18:48:36    1771023

It's a Diff sport. Why compare? Bit of positivity in football might help

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 16/08/2015 18:49:44    1771025

I'm not comparing sports I'm comparing attitudes.
What makes a hurler different than a footballer?
Why can a hurler go out and just hurl but our code sees cynicism and ugly tactics on a more regular basis.
I'd love to be positive but there's not much to be positive about.

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 16/08/2015 19:01:24    1771038

Two totally different games, so most general comparisons are meaningless. But what can be compared are the double standards displayed by the Sunday Game analysts etc.

One player today was clearly struck off the ball and required medical attention. The ref took no action, and the incident wasn't mentioned on TV at half time.
The Galway penalty- questions need to be asked about where exactly the "foul" took place, and if indeed it was a foul at all- the forward seemed to go down rather easily.
Finally the foul that led to the Tipp penalty was even worse than the one committed by Sean Cavanagh v Monaghan ( the one that prompted the Brolly rant!!). A clear goal scoring chance was prevented, and Callanan narrowly avoided a serious neck injury.

Today's game was indeed a marvellous spectacle, but there were plenty unsavoury incidents, just like there were during last week's football games. What's missed in the hype, though, is a bit of balance.

football first (None) - Posts: 1259 - 16/08/2015 19:05:04    1771039

Fair enough to compare the attitudes , but honestly this site does not need yet another thread like this ,

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 16/08/2015 19:07:51    1771041

westkerry
County: Kerry
Posts: 518

1771038 I'm not comparing sports I'm comparing attitudes.
What makes a hurler different than a footballer?
Why can a hurler go out and just hurl but our code sees cynicism and ugly tactics on a more regular basis.
I'd love to be positive but there's not much to be positive about.

What makes you so sure that hurling is devoid of cynicism? There was a penalty given for a spear tackle today and for two rugby tackles in last year's All-Ireland hurling final. The senior game was a brilliant spectacle, but otherwise this season's the hurling championship has consisted mostly of comfortable victories for the big guns.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 16/08/2015 19:09:58    1771042

I agree with your point west Kerry about Lar and the 65. I think he told ref he hit it last. Unprecedented thing to do if that's what Lar did, a point from a 65 there would have put Tipp two up with 3 minutes left

pj_mcmanus (Limerick) - Posts: 431 - 16/08/2015 19:10:29    1771044

Biggest difference is in the tone of the coverage they receive.

Sean Cavanagh drags down Conor McManus preventing a goal; causes a moral crisis in football and even rule changes.

John Hanbury does the same to Callinan today; barely gets mentioned afterwards and pundits rightly focus on the game itself instead of pontificating.

Hank_Scorpio (Meath) - Posts: 60 - 16/08/2015 19:15:30    1771049

Well in fairness, 1 fine day doesnt make a summer and it has been an absolutely awful summer for hurling. I normally talk very strongly about my love of hurling but this year has been absolutely awful stuff. Not that the football has been any better, but hurling cant crow based on what we have seen this year rather than just 1 day.

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 16/08/2015 19:21:21    1771054

I'm not trying to stir things up but I just thought the contrast in honesty & effort compared to football at the minute was really demonstrated today.
It's not the thread Damo it's when they descend into slagging matches.

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 16/08/2015 19:21:39    1771055

There were 2 penalties today for cynical tackles.Players are constantly fouled in hurling off the ball and held back the problem is that the media tends to say everything is great in hurling and everything is bad in football when it's somewhere in between for both codes.The referees in hurling ignore an awful lot of foul play as well.

Today's game was the only game in this years hurling championship that was top quality the rest of the championship has been a complete bore.

The reason why there is a bit more defensiveness in football tactics is quite simple it's because defensive tactics work much better in football than in hurling because it is a lot easier to score in hurling than it is in football.Also it's easier to jersey pull in football than it is in hurling as you have 2 hands free at all times as you're not holding a stick in your hand playing football.

Hurlers are no different than footballers in attitude they're just as cynical it's just cynical tactics don't work as well in hurling as they do in football so they are used as visible in hurling.

Hurling can get away with one great game per year and everything is rosy whereas football media seem to be far more questioning of everything in the game.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 16/08/2015 19:36:28    1771060

That's a decent post in fairness.
Some good points.

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 16/08/2015 19:41:35    1771062

come off it westkerry
some people are so far blinkered when it comes to sports
that foul on callanan for the penalty was far worse than anything in football over last 5 years
and comes close to the tackle on brian o driscoll by new zealand man
brilliant game today was a joy to watch
but coming out with blinkered stuff like this is silly

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 16/08/2015 19:43:59    1771063

Have to agree with Hank Scorpio, TSG analysts have a lot of influence of the perception of these games. The hurling ones are far superior to their football counterparts and generally speak much more positively about the game of hurling, while also avoiding exaggeration and controversy. The football pundits on the other hand thrive on negativity or a single incident on which they can go to town on.

For me personally, I enjoy both codes equally and would look forward to a big football match equally as much as a hurling one.

Former_Poster (Meath) - Posts: 394 - 16/08/2015 19:47:28    1771066