Was last night a new low for RTE with their coverage of the Tyrone /Monaghan match or was it justified... Ciaran Whelan was first to comment and to most he did speak most people's minds with his analysis of the hair- brushing incidents... but Mr O'Rourke went over the top ( or did he). Colm spoke of Tyrone's problems at Minor, U-21 and senior this year , every game he said Tyrone had problems. Now I wasn't at every Tyrone game, for obvious reasons, but some incidents do justify comment but I felt his comments were harsh and rash and needed further detail.... he and most in RTE have spoke of the U-21 game - i sill don't know what the fuss was, please expand, apart from Tipperary players stamping. The incident in the minor match against Donegal was unpleasant and not-needed in our game, but one incident in one minor game shouldn't condemn all Tyrone Minors . ( Should we condemn the Kildare- Offaly players for the ear biting incident in the Minor Championship match this year.
We HAVE a history with Tyrone, its a rivalry healthy and somethimes fierce, but I'm trying to look at my foe objectively :-
Donegal V Tyrone - we had a samll melee at half time, yes it didn't look good, but was it any worse than the Mayo/Galway handbags
Meath v Tyrone - did anything happen
Tyrone v Limerick ???
Tipperary v Tyrone - yes some over-the top challenges, 1 red should have been more all to the Tipperay players
Tyrone v Sligo ??
Monaghan v Tyrone - lots of incidents - but its an Ulster derby- still no excuse

So what I'm trying to say , it that all the games the played this yr, we had Monaghan and Donegal...
Now take the Munster Final Replay, we had players feigening injury, we had pinces thrown etc, but no analysis.... no condemnation...

AND the worst act ever on the Croke Park sod was the deliberately act to inflict serious injury onto ones opponent in order to prevent that player from playing or participating in the All-Ireland - The 2009 All-Ireland and Nicolas Murphy.
The Sunday game should comment on Tyrone when they act inappropriately, they should Act on Armagh also, they should comment on all counties... but we know not all counties are not equal......

cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1671 - 10/08/2015 17:37:48    1767477

Nicholas Murphy took some punishment from Kerry over the years alright,and wasn't highlighted much either.

'Cos they're the lovely Kerry footballers!

Perception is everything.

Muilleann (Tipperary) - Posts: 114 - 10/08/2015 17:51:15    1767489

In the round, RTE's observations were fair and accurate. I don't see what all the fuss is about. Two of the three analysts that spoke on the game gave a fair account of what happened. I don't see what some people are getting so worked up about. Teams are just going to have to prepare for Tyrone when they meet them as I can't see the GAA putting measures in place any time soon to deal with the points that were raised on the SG.

drumlinbelt (Monaghan) - Posts: 179 - 10/08/2015 17:52:35    1767491

Not ever a word about Michael Lundys embarrassing dives in the club final .

What about Kerry's continuous antics ie diving in both drawn and replay match V Cork .

Tyrone get it the worst ; they're no angels but who is ?

There is no place for the diving that took place but then again it's not as bad as some of the nastiness that certain sides had during the 80s and 90s . I hope Peter The Greats head is okay .

TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 10/08/2015 18:04:14    1767500

I thought the most disgraceful incident I've seen in the GAA in many years was the seemingly premeditated assault on Karl Lacey in Croke Park last year - yet the Sunday Game pundits concentrated on the Donegal doctor being on the pitch.

opa01 (Cavan) - Posts: 500 - 10/08/2015 18:04:27    1767501

I thought the comments by whelan and o'rourke were spot on last night! They saying what 95% go the gaa public saying about tyrone.

Molaise (Fermanagh) - Posts: 96 - 10/08/2015 18:19:24    1767510

In a word no.
Tyrone like it or not have a reputation.
For all the great talent they have produced for many it's overshadowed by the antics at all levels.
O'Rourke pointed out 3 incidents last night, the minor sledging of a young lad in Donegal, The Sledging against Tipp in the under 21, and then Saturday's antics.
Hardly a coincidence.

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 10/08/2015 18:32:52    1767521

Its becoming blatantly obvious that the SG old guard have a hatred & bias towards Tyrone. Colm O roukre couldn't wait to get a rant going after the tyrone game. What the meath team did through the 80s & 90s was much worse & got covered up by comments like its a physical game... nonsense - yes we all want to keep physicality in the game but does that mean teams were there to be assaulted (96 semi final et al).
The old guard of O'rourke, spillane & brolley need to go. They are dinosaurs commentating on a game that has changed more in the last ten years than it did in the previous 50. Guys like Dessie Dolan are brilliant to watch and can make a point without needing 5 minutes to rant.

I had thought M.Harte should have buried the hatchet with RTE - but after the reporting & punditary going on I now agree that they should blank RTE altogether.

Sky are actually in my opinion going to take over the GAA coverage within the next 5-10 years - there analysis on games is already better. they will have a big budget for the better games & more fans will start tuning into the games for no nonsense analysis. Who wants to listen to brolley go on a 10 minute rant and interrupt any other man trying to have his say.... & his infatuation for Sean Cavanagh is embarrassing - joe you couldnt lace his boots.
(i dont condown the dive by mc cann - no place for it in the game - the comments about Cavanagh wasting time i don't get on board with - Finlay punched him in the back of the head - if he wants to take two minutes then take your two minutes - no other player in Ireland would be criitised for this - and thats a fact.)

tyronesaints (Tyrone) - Posts: 14 - 10/08/2015 18:39:39    1767528

Tyronesaints....Give me a break. Nobody says that Meath, Dublin and many others haven't been involved in rough stuff. Its the diving, sledging and general cynical approach that people are grinding the axe about. There is no way to defend laying down systematically post each foul (Tyrone do this more than any team i have ever seen) and there is no defending the pathetic dive of McCann, The dive of McAlliskey and half the rest of the team. Drawing a foul for a free is one thing but to feign injury and constantly pressurise the officials is Tyrone's MO. The sly digs, tussles and punches were going plenty on both sides but the rest......

By the way, I accept our own misgivings in rough cynical fouling. We have involved ourselves in it many times, very few teams haven't. Tyrone just take it further than anyone else and then throw the toys out of the pram when they are criticized for it!

seanfinn (Monaghan) - Posts: 360 - 10/08/2015 19:02:20    1767550

The bias is unbelievable. These incidents happen in manys a games but they are magnified significantly when its tyrone involved.
Happens at club level also, look at the publicity that derrytresk were subjected too after a scuffle against a kerry club. These incidents happpen in club games all over ireland all the time but noones interested in them.
I have no time for any of the panel on the SG anyway so i dont pay much attention to them but the way everyone clings onto their comments is crazy. People should open their eyes and see that its just not tyrone that is involved in these things.
Ciaran Whelen calling for mccann to be banned for the semi is absolutely ridiculous by the way. Cant make up rules to satisfy the anti tyrone brigade.
Anyway roll on the semi...the further we go the more riled up the rest of ye get so im praying for another win.

sam09 (Tyrone) - Posts: 339 - 10/08/2015 19:09:12    1767556

Well Kyle Coneys latest tweet is not helping Tyrones cause. There is no media witch hunt in my opinion.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11225 - 10/08/2015 19:19:58    1767565

If Tyrone detrone Kerry I would say that nobody will care what the media say.

lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 2986 - 10/08/2015 19:27:25    1767573

Seanfinn any comment on Beggans dive as shown last night in a clip supposedly showing the sins of Tyrone or are you like the RTE pundits blind to this happening?

benched (Tyrone) - Posts: 534 - 10/08/2015 19:29:42    1767576

I don't give a damn if Tyrone never have to speak with RTE ever again, the useless crock of s**** that's supposed to resemble a sports output.

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 10/08/2015 19:51:59    1767591

Boohoo. Poor Tyrone fans are upset that their team of serial cheats gets criticised. The analysis in The Sunday Game was measured and accurate. The most depressing aspect of the cynicism was the fact that young players like Meyler and McCann were prepared to utilise it. McCann in particular was entirely despicable. However should we be surprised at this when minor footballers from Tyrone are prepared to sledge an opponent about the death of that players father. Tyrone have become a very powerful football county however their behaviour is an affront to The GAA.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6030 - 10/08/2015 19:52:44    1767593

Rte pundits need to lay off Tyrone. They always seem to highlight the negative things and overlook the good play that gets Tyrone the wins. They brush similar incidents from other top teams under the carpet. I for one would love to see Tyrone win the all ireland just to see the panelists faces.

enver (Limerick) - Posts: 128 - 10/08/2015 19:55:02    1767596

Ive never commented negatively on Tyrone before,but some of their play acting lately is pathetic.The lad hitting the ground was an embarrasment to the game and i must admit i hope Kerry beat them.S Cavanagh is a great player,but hes very clever in conning referees into giving him frees.Like his little dummy that still confounds opponents,i dont know how he gets away with it.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 10/08/2015 20:04:07    1767600

Well done RTE for hghlighting and saying that Monaghan got sucked into it and that is what happened! Well saids Colm o rourke only tyrone can change this!

Muineachain76 (Monaghan) - Posts: 180 - 10/08/2015 20:09:23    1767605

Cuchulainn

I thing the coverage last night was fair enough and generally a good reflection of the sentiment of the vast majority of gaa people at least according to the chats I,ve had since Saturday with various gaa fans.
The panellists are gaa men and are rightly concerned about the implications of tyrones modus operandi.

PaidinMhaire (Mayo) - Posts: 12 - 10/08/2015 20:10:21    1767607

Most folk see everyone else's foul play but fails to see their own. The more successful teams are the ones committing most of the fouls and have an art of fooling the refs most of whom are sub-standard. The amount of fouling that goes unpunished in most matches is frightening.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 10/08/2015 20:20:30    1767612