I cant understand how anyone could come up with this as a suitable amount of added time at the end of the Clare/limerick game yesterday. In most games, there would be far more than a minute wasted throughout a half of hurling/football, and yesterday was no different. Surely yesterday was a clear indication that referees are no longer capable of maintaining time keeping duties along with everything else they need to adjudicate for within a game.

PK57 (Louth) - Posts: 1653 - 25/05/2015 13:47:01    1728111

The rule for time keeping is as follows: The referee is to record playing time, and to extend time in each half for deliberate or incidental delay.
Can someone tell me what is deliberate or incidental delay? I do not think it is written in rule and therefore is subject to much individual interpretation by a referee. Incidental delay surely is injury. It is not substitutions or is it? If we started counting up to 12 subs per game then we could be getting upwards of 6 - 8 minutes extra every game if we add on the soccer 30 seconds interpretation. Additional time usually ends up as 1 or 2 minutes and nobody usually complains.

anduna (Down) - Posts: 210 - 25/05/2015 15:48:44    1728186

I think if you introduce time-keepers like in Basketball your average 70 minute game would extend to near two hours. I mean what about players knocking the ball away? how long does it take to take a sideline cut? If I said 40 seconds would you agree? a 65 from the time it goes out of bounds? a minute? 30 sec's? how many 65's and free's? stoppage has to be at the discretion of the ref. Yet it works somewhat in Ladies football with the count down as you (and the fans) know if the clock is stopped. There is never any argument.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 25/05/2015 16:00:00    1728192

1 minute is wrong and it's not to say Clare would of scored or not it's just wrong, when we're losing a game I always do be screaming at Dublin players that go down injured to hurry up and get up cause the ref never adds it on at the end, I remember we played Meath in 09 I think and Mark Daveran did his cruciate and must have been getting treatment on the pitch for 5 minutes when the board came up for injury time at the end there was just two minutes added time ha the Meath supporters went crazy and they had every right too.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 25/05/2015 16:01:03    1728193

Yes the extra time played at end of games has always been an issue.2 mins seems to be the norm.Rarely do you get more than 3 minutes.Its a big advantage to a team defending a lead knowing that all sorts of time wasting tactics will go unpunished(not saying Lim were at this).Ive often found myself nearly begging the referee to blow it up asap.There really should be a clock or something.Most games should have 5 mins injury time minimum but it never happens.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 25/05/2015 16:09:27    1728199

25/05/2015 13:47:01 PK57
I cant understand how anyone could come up with this as a suitable amount of added time at the end of the Clare/limerick game yesterday. In most games, there would be far more than a minute wasted throughout a half of hurling/football, and yesterday was no different. Surely yesterday was a clear indication that referees are no longer capable of maintaining time keeping duties along with everything else they need to adjudicate for within a game. I heard a certain referee say at some meeting of different referees from different sports, think it was Barry Kelly, and this ref said they added 1 minute in first half and 2 in second unless something catastrophic happened as not more was needed from a refereeing perspective. There shouldn't need be much more time than that.
Its impossible to come up with a formula that would work and be fair that would WORK OUT exactly what injury time should be used.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 25/05/2015 21:01:10    1728365

One of the most infuriating aspects of how the game is run. It makes my blood boil.

seany16 (Dublin) - Posts: 1658 - 25/05/2015 21:28:42    1728384

Sure we get 3/4 minutes of added time, Limerick tag on a goal or 2, then what? Davy finds another reason to complain, the sun was in their eyes,the grass was too long, there was too much oxygen in the air,etc, etc.
In tight matches, there's always a winner and loser, hard luck Clare, well done Limerick, best of luck agin Tipp.

extranjero (Wexford) - Posts: 375 - 26/05/2015 11:46:54    1728497

I have been at games where 3 even 4 mins of added on time is played and there was barely any stoppages.

However its no excuse but I can see inter county managers point sometimes as every second of the game counts especially in hurling where a score can be got from one of end of the field to the other in less than 10 seconds given the speed of the game.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 26/05/2015 12:48:24    1728546

A Limerick player was on off the ball last night, and he admitted he was shocked when it was only a minute added on, and wouldn't have batted an eye lid had it been 3 or 4 minutes added on. In the modern game, we expect a referee to spend 70 minutes administering the rules to 30 players, and on top of that is supposed to know how much time to add on at the end of a match, and what ends up happening is the referee guesses. The obvious solution is a hooter system which works very well in ladies football.

PK57 (Louth) - Posts: 1653 - 26/05/2015 12:57:44    1728552

Just bring in a timekeeper

In relation to Sunday was 1 minute held up on he board and then more then a minute played? I thought it was 1.38 or something he played over? And besides Limerick had the ball in a threatening position when he blew so they would most likely have added to there lead if he had not of blown

Brianmac78 (Dublin) - Posts: 1168 - 26/05/2015 13:04:20    1728557

Best system I see would be have the refs have two watches, stop one for any injuries or delays that warrant (Where 65s, 45s and frees which take ages waiting for a keeper fall into it I'm not sure). I'd rather time the substitutions rather than just adding on 30 secs as you get an accurate time then.

tipp11 (Tipperary) - Posts: 353 - 26/05/2015 13:07:52    1728560

They had a chance to bring in the hooter system and they didnt want it, and why because the fat cats in Croke Park were afraid of losing out on draws.

hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1660 - 26/05/2015 13:50:28    1728593

there clearly should be time added on for substitutions as managers are now using this as time-wasting by bringing a sub or sometimes 2 or 3 on in injury time. the only reason is to minimise the amount of playing time left. 1 minute was clearly a joke. it seems that no matter what happens in injury time counts for nothing. The time-keeping should clearly have been taken out of the ref's hands yet the GAA authorities reversed the decision to do this.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 26/05/2015 16:44:19    1728724

I would think the extra 30 odd seconds was added on because Limerick made a substitution in injury time or near the end anyway. Clare had taken a quick puck out and a fella was all in his own.

Smart substitution by Limerick at a crucial time in the game.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 26/05/2015 16:54:14    1728729

There should be some established guidelines for the length of injury time. It just seems to be so random at times. 1 minute hardly accounted for injuries, substitutions and other wastage of time.

enver (Limerick) - Posts: 128 - 26/05/2015 19:24:59    1728812