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August All-Ireland finals

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If club championships are to be completed in the calendar year, with All-Ireland club finals in December, I suppose it's a discussion they have to be having at least.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7811 - 31/10/2014 21:39:54    1668773

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Darn tootin..

And hopefully by August, they mean August bank holiday weekend...that said, there is no excuse for the likes of Tipp/Wexford having no reps in their provincial championship..

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 01/11/2014 09:26:14    1668789

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Any system is better than the current one.
A 9 month season,, about 5 of which are taken up by competitions that the players and managers (and therefore the media) aren't bothered with. club players being treated like they dont matter, uncertainty etc.
I say we condense the inter county season into about 6 months, and play a glut of games (both league and championship run concurrently).

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 01/11/2014 15:40:03    1668844

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An awful idea, September is the only month that we are guaranteed dry weather, how many games have been played in end July and August in thunderstorms, leave the finals for september, i was in Croke Park for the quarterfinals in August bank holiday and again in the semi, it was like 2 days in winter, no we would have better weather in winter. August is an awful time for finals, start club champ earlier, as it is most clubs only play around 25 games a year between league and champ and are still trying to finish them today, 8-9 months to play 25 games, it should take 6-7 months. Start club season 1st March and have 65-75% of League games played before 1st champ game for county team

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 01/11/2014 19:38:24    1668900

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01/11/2014 15:40:03 joncarter
Any system is better than the current one.
A 9 month season,, about 5 of which are taken up by competitions that the players and managers (and therefore the media) aren't bothered with. club players being treated like they dont matter, uncertainty etc.
I say we condense the inter county season into about 6 months, and play a glut of games (both league and championship run concurrently).
Playing more games in condensed period has to happen
01/11/2014 19:38:24 riverboys
An awful idea, September is the only month that we are guaranteed dry weather, how many games have been played in end July and August in thunderstorms, leave the finals for september, i was in Croke Park for the quarterfinals in August bank holiday and again in the semi, it was like 2 days in winter, no we would have better weather in winter. August is an awful time for finals, start club champ earlier, as it is most clubs only play around 25 games a year between league and champ and are still trying to finish them today, 8-9 months to play 25 games, it should take 6-7 months. Start club season 1st March and have 65-75% of League games played before 1st champ game for county team
September is not at all the only month guaranteed dry weather. August isn't awful for finals at all. Club championships do have to be started much earlier but would disagree on clubs playing 25 games a year. nowhere near that amount

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 01/11/2014 19:47:35    1668903

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I don't like the idea of the all ireland finals being played in August.I takes away a full month of massive exposure for the GAA.

Very few counties will benefit from changing the All Ireland final date however the GAA as a whole will lose out.

We have so much fluting around with half arsed measures in the GAA and no real action on real issue and this is another prime example of this.

County boards should just play club championships throughout the inter county championship season and you would have no fixture congestion.If inter county players and managers don't like it tough sh1t.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 01/11/2014 21:06:30    1668930

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I'd be traditionalist enough about the finals. With the drive All-Ireland club finals in December, it's understandable that the inter county championships might have to be brought forward. What are the alternatives?

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7811 - 01/11/2014 21:21:36    1668935

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I'd be traditionalist enough about the finals. With the drive All-Ireland club finals in December, it's understandable that the inter county championships might have to be brought forward. What are the alternatives?


Play the Provincial and All Ireland club championships in January, Feb and March.

A massive change is being made to suit very few teams.

If you play the club finals in December in my opinion the crowd will suffer and the occassion will suffer as having the club finals as a part of our national holiday is a great idea.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 01/11/2014 21:46:28    1668938

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I the words of the late Rev Ian Paisley NEVER! NEVER! NEVER!

fortyfive (Tyrone) - Posts: 5929 - 01/11/2014 21:54:35    1668939

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Why do they have to change the inter county scene to fit the club scene.
If they had any brains they should just play the club championship regardless of county players availability to clubs. Its ridiculous leaving 24 other guys waiting till the county side exit the all Ireland to get one player back possibly to play club championship. The club championships should have set dates Nationwide and stick to them . An inter county player gets to play games with the county and train with them all year where as the club player is made wait hand and foot for them guys and then possibly loose their place in the team to facilitate the county player when it comes to the biggest game of the year for club teams.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 02/11/2014 10:35:01    1668959

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It's strange how this situation has raised it's head now in the first year of the sky deal, or am I being paronoid ? Would the sky bosses be tellin Liam o'neill that they would get more viewers if we had the finals before the premiership starts.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 02/11/2014 11:10:30    1668970

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I'm not a traditionalist in that I couldn't care less when the All-Ireland's are played, who really gives a monkeys once their own team makes the final, people get far too hung up over such stupid details.

Also how many of the early All-Ireland's were actually held in September anyway, I make roughly 8 out of 78 (give or take a few but not far off) including both Hurling and Football before 1927 when September became a permanent fixture, so if you really are a traditionalist then surely you'd like to see the All-Ireland's played a year or 2 late in a random month.

If I'm honest though I actually don't want to see the AI's moved from September because it's just another way of delaying the inevitable change to the championship formats which is what's really needed, why bother with a pointless baby step when a giant leap is needed.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 02/11/2014 11:50:20    1668979

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As if the winter wasn't long enough already, the biggest competitions finished in August would only make it worse. The GAA is a fairly unique organisation which makes fixture making an almost impossible task. Some dual players will play for 6-7 different teams and people will complain about burn-out, while his clubmate might only play for 1 team and will complain about how few games he plays each year. How is anybody going to solve a problem like that? Leave the championship finals in September but tighten up on club fixture making. A lot of Junior B finals take place around the country in November, changing the date of the All-Ireland will do nothing to correct that.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 02/11/2014 13:18:44    1668988

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