I think the level of medals within the Kerry squad can have a major bearing in this game.

They have many multiple All-Ireland medalists in their ranks and surely this will be a factor on the day. That know-how, that experience of getting over the line so often is a previous asset.

Donegal have players who have played in one final, Many Kerry players have played in numerous finals. That experience on the day is vital. They have seen both sides of it...

Could be the difference.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 11/09/2014 18:38:10    1651077

No chance Donegal_abroad, Kerry haven't won an AI since 2009 and the last final they played in their experienced counted for nothing as they lost a 4 point lead with 10 mins to go and lost the bloody game, nope Kerry are underdogs for this one and rightly so, but beware, they're still Kerry!

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 11/09/2014 18:45:57    1651081

Marc O'Se,Declan OSullivan,O'Mahony 4 All Ireland medals
Donaghy,Darran O'Sullivan,Sheehan,Young x 3.
Donegal will be underdogs though Kerry haven't beating Ulster in All Ireland in 30 years

HandyMoran (Roscommon) - Posts: 327 - 11/09/2014 18:50:45    1651083

kind of sick of people trying to be cute on here about favourites and playing themselves down and all that..anybody else feel the same?..donegal are rightly favourites and expect them to win but kerry very dangerous opponent and have more than enough experience and ability to cause what would be a slight upset

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 11/09/2014 19:44:21    1651098

Dead right Fabio. What does it serve? Playing mind games with a bunch of anonymous internet forum posters? Sheesh

flack (Dublin) - Posts: 1054 - 11/09/2014 19:55:48    1651101

Yeah I am going for Donegal obviously but it,s the same person that started another thread Kerry for Sam 2014 Donegal abroad,
I think Donegal will win but Kerry manager is an intelligent man too. I would not mind if it was a Kerry poster that started these threads.

aidan1000 (Leitrim) - Posts: 106 - 11/09/2014 19:57:05    1651103

fabio8
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kind of sick of people trying to be cute on here about favourites and playing themselves down and all that..anybody else feel the same?..donegal are rightly favourites and expect them to win but kerry very dangerous opponent and have more than enough experience and ability to cause what would be a slight upset

Agreed

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 11/09/2014 20:19:32    1651109

kind of sick of people trying to be cute on here about favourites and playing themselves down and all that..anybody else feel the same?..donegal are rightly favourites and expect them to win but kerry very dangerous opponent and have more than enough experience and ability to cause what would be a slight upset

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Hear hear, Well said Fabio.

But then at the same time, Us Dubs where confident and said we would win against Donegal and when we didnt alot of people where quick to kick the boot in for letting our confidence known, You get obliterated with "Ah but sure yiz believed the hype", No .. We believed in our team to win a game of football and said as much, So - What should we do ? Be confident and believe in our team, Say we will win ? .. Or do we try and be cute by talking up the opposition. Damned if we do, Damned if we dont i reckon

And furthermore, I dont get why fans of teams try and be cute hoors anyway ? I can understand management and players at it, But why do it on a national forum ? It will have no impact on the game in fairness. Can't people just discuss the game without having to resort to this nonsense ?

Personally, I prefer to be confident in my team and say as much, Why not ? Enjoy the build up, Enjoy being confident, Talk your team up - Not for a fall, Just because, Well...... If you cant enjoy build ups and banter pre match instead of having to resort to stupid carry on, Then whats the point atal atal.

Both Kerry and Donegal can feel confident going into this game and rightly so.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 11/09/2014 20:23:45    1651114

50/50 game for me.Two fine teams.Whoever performs to their full potential will win.I really cant call this one.Ill sit on the fence,and call a draw.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 11/09/2014 20:45:46    1651127

Wayno
I understand what your saying and Iv said before I'm not being a cute hoor, I tought I was being honest. You can't say that you realy think this Kerry team are going to beat donegal can you? Don't get me wrong I hope and pray we can do it, my whole family are going up for the final and we're gona roar our team on till we can't roar anymore, and if Kerry lose we'll be disappointed but we'll get over it, and go again next year, a lot of people talk about our 36 all Ireland's but people also forget we've lost 21 as well.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 11/09/2014 21:05:14    1651145

All supporters are going to be naturally optimistic of their team's chances. Limerick and Waterford were optimistic before their hurling finals against Kilkenny. While my heart obviously says Kerry, I've seen plenty of Ulster championship games, and Donegal games for that matter, to know of the tough task that lies ahead.

The capital were rightly favourites going into their semi-final on the balance of what had happened in previous games for both teams. Similarly heading into this final, Donegal are rightly favourites on the balance of how both teams have gotten on in the Championship so far. Shocks happen though. The favourite does not always win. While it is very much a tough task in store for Kerry, it is not too far beyond them to deliver on the day but it is very much an unknown while Donegal arrive in a great place and full belief in what they are doing. The battle will be interesting and still over a week away!

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7840 - 11/09/2014 21:08:54    1651148

I think Kerry will win.i think it will be close. they have more consistent scorers in their team (but then again so did Dublin).
I don't think Ryan McHugh will score 2 goals against Kerry.
I don't see the Donegal team getting 3:14 against kerry.
However I could envisage, James O' Donoghue scoring 1:05, Paul Geaney scoring 0:03, Keiran Donaghy scoring 1:01, Johnny Buckey,David Moran or Bryan Sheehan scoring 0:03 points between them and Donnacha walsh, stephen O'Brien, barry John Keane, Jonathan Lyne, Michael Guiney and the rest of them scoring 3 points between them.
So I Think kerry will score about 2:15.

Where are Donegal's scores going to come from.? Murphy and Mcfadden will probably get about 1:07 between them.
McBreaty could chip in with 0:02, McNiallais possibly 2 more. Mc Hugh another brace. Molloy,the walshs, O'Connor,Rory Kavanagh,Toye,McLoone, and the defenders. about another 3 points between them.
so Donegal will score 1:16.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 12/09/2014 15:20:38    1651359

the difference is waynol that the dubs were over the top confident in their side declaring themselves the best panel of players this and that and so on while belittling the opposition and now a small minority even still say just cause they didnt play well is why they lost

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 12/09/2014 15:33:09    1651363

s goldrick I'm not saying its impossible but it is unlikely that Kerry will get 2 goals.
It fact its unlikely any of the FF line will have a big input on the game except the fact if will take extra cover for O Donohue.
So the issue for Kerry is where do the extra scores come from.

Now Donegal will not have any 1 player scoring but its impossible to tell who will do the scoring. It was McHugh the last day but it could be anyone (my money is on McLoone to nick a goal)

It will be close but I think Donegal will just shade it 2-10 0-13

dstuction (Donegal) - Posts: 1209 - 12/09/2014 15:44:13    1651374

s goldrick
I think if we concede 2 goals we will have a massive hill to climb but remember that we were the first team to shut out Dublin under Gavin. I know they created 2 chances but they didn't take them. Kerry will need to take all their goal chances.

Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1671 - 12/09/2014 15:49:01    1651376

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the difference is waynol that the dubs were over the top confident in their side declaring themselves the best panel of players this and that and so on while belittling the opposition and now a small minority even still say just cause they didnt play well is why they lost

A bit of a sweeping generalization there young buck. The media hype up teams more than anyone else and some people buy into that there rubbish.I know plenty of posters on here might have done a bit of chest beating but don't tar all supporters with the one brush.
You'll find plenty of crowing over the next week or so while also getting the the downplayers.Cop yourself on bucko.

BallBearing (USA) - Posts: 72 - 12/09/2014 17:22:08    1651426

12/09/2014 15:44:13
dstuction
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s goldrick I'm not saying its impossible but it is unlikely that Kerry will get 2 goals.
It fact its unlikely any of the FF line will have a big input on the game except the fact if will take extra cover for O Donohue.
So the issue for Kerry is where do the extra scores come from.

Now Donegal will not have any 1 player scoring but its impossible to tell who will do the scoring. It was McHugh the last day but it could be anyone (my money is on McLoone to nick a goal)

It will be close but I think Donegal will just shade it 2-10 0-13

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s goldrick
I think if we concede 2 goals we will have a massive hill to climb but remember that we were the first team to shut out Dublin under Gavin. I know they created 2 chances but they didn't take them. Kerry will need to take all their goal chances.

All these comments are a measure of the tough task ahead of the Kingdom. Some people have an obsession that some are playing down the chances of their own county but sure at the end of the day, while all supporters are optimistic of their county, those who've seen their opponents play will be aware of the dangers. Donegal pose a serious threat. There defensive triangle in the best defensive system in the country. The 3-14 they scored against the capital says it all about their attack.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7840 - 12/09/2014 18:09:51    1651443

Can't see Kerry getting 2-14 as the Cavan poster pointed out. I would reckon on them getting 0-12 (1-9) or something similar.
Let's look at Donegal's defending in big games::::: Ulster final ::: monaghan1-9. Now both K Hughes and Conor McManus were well held ( both Monaghan danger men) The goal conceded was a slip up that Day which can happen to any team on any given day.
Armagh game :::conceded 1-11 Again the goal was the result of a bad kickout I would not look too much into it as the result on the day meant more than the performance.
Now the Dublin game:::::: I thought myself that after 25 minutes play we were going to get a good hiding as we were on the backfoot and after 23 minutes of play 0-8 to0-3 behind.
To think that in the next 50 minutes ( plus added time) Dublin only scored 9 points just shows how brilliant Donegal can defend. I know Dublin missed two clear goal chances but that's the only ones they created. Before the Donegal game :: how many did they create in the earlier games ??? I'd say the missed 4 or5 goals in their previous championship games this Summer and that was every game.
I'm expecting on the 21/09/2014 a ruthless master - class in blanket defending and a razor -sharp counter-attack. Will Kerry survive Donegal's notorious choking system because if they do then in my book they will be worthy All Ireland champions.


As regards the Donegal poster on about Kerry players and AI finals I think I saw where around 8/9 players have not yet played in an All Ireland , so on the Donegal team only R McHugh/Ordhan McNellis have not played in one.

SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 12/09/2014 21:09:50    1651494

i did mention a small minority so how am i generalising?...a decent amount of dublin supporters were trying to declare this side as the best panel of players ever and 5 in a row and so on so it wasnt just the media..it went on here also while also were happy to take shots at mcguinness and so on...i suggest you read my post fully before jumping to attack it and also i suggest you look back at the threads on here all year

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 12/09/2014 21:41:47    1651502

Fabio8
You are right about some of the posters on here ( some might have been joking) and indeed some on here said something like :::Dublin will hasten J McG exit as manager of Donegal and things like that. In fairness a few Dublin posters knew the score and indeed were weary of Donegal. I hope everybody learned a good lesson this year, like prepare for the unexpected and Counties ( including ourselves) should realise once you reach the summit then you are fair game the following season. Everybody loves to beat the top dog.

SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 12/09/2014 21:59:01    1651515