Cork and Limerick contested today's Munster final. Wexford knocked out the All-Ireland champions. Is division 1B hurling all that bad?

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7842 - 13/07/2014 18:11:35    1618424

No!
The only thing thats bad about 1B is that it's not 1A!

Regards,

Snufalufagus....Laochra Gael

Snufalufagus (Dublin) - Posts: 8100 - 13/07/2014 18:15:09    1618427

No, and last year the Leinster and Munster champions were 1B teams along with Clare? Not sure about Clare..

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 13/07/2014 18:21:24    1618433

The top few teams in it are similar to 1a level. The bottom few teams in it are at a much lower standard.

enver (Limerick) - Posts: 128 - 13/07/2014 18:25:27    1618441

Not at all, there are 3-4 teams in 1B who can beat anyone in 1A. For a team trying to develop 1B is probably even better for them as they have a bit more breathing space to try things without risking having a big set-back, and it allows new players to grow gradually rather than getting exposed in the cut-throat environment that is 1A.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 13/07/2014 18:53:55    1618467

There is no difference. Wexford just got on with what they had to do instead of whinging. Nothing between 7/8 teams which is great. Anyone of Cats, Cork, Tipp, Dubs, Limerick, Waterford can win it. Depends on the day. This year will surpass last year.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 13/07/2014 18:54:02    1618468

To Enver -

To over come the weak lower 1B point you make, I came up with a NHL format to acdress this -
I call it the 'Treble-7, A Fair Chance' -
1) 14 teams participate
2) Rank the 14 in tiers like the 'Super 14' idea of Nov 2013
3) Tiers A, B1, B2 and C consist of quantities 4, 4, 3 and 3
4) Combine tiers A and C to form Group AC and the B tiers to form Group B
5) The 7 in AC play the 7 in B to complete a 7 game schedule
6) 4 teams to SFs - incl both group winners and 2 best losers from either group
7) Reset tiers for next yr - A) Sflists; C) 6th in AC and 7th in both groups.
8) No relagation - NHL considers a 16-team 'Treble-8' ( 8v8, 8 games)

omahant (USA) - Posts: 2584 - 13/07/2014 18:57:26    1618471

Missed Wex off that list! Hope that doesn't come back to bite me in the bottom (doyler) :-)

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 13/07/2014 18:58:25    1618474

hurlingdub

Haha you got me before I could correct you !! :)

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2660 - 13/07/2014 21:47:46    1618612

hurlingdub

Haha you got me before I could correct you !! :)

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2660 - 13/07/2014 21:49:24    1618614

hurlingdub I was about to correct you too! Well done in saving your bacon.

1B has suited us for the last year or two as we have blooded new players, but now we need to start hurling the 1A teams. Whether this involves a league change or us just winning 1B I dont know!

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 14/07/2014 12:04:32    1618843

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hurlingdub I was about to correct you too! Well done in saving your bacon.

1B has suited us for the last year or two as we have blooded new players, but now we need to start hurling the 1A teams. Whether this involves a league change or us just winning 1B I dont know!

A league change would be good. Two groups of 7 with no relegation between the groups but with relegation to division 2 (automatic this time and no messing the likes of Kerry about).

Well done on your win. Lee Chin is a beast of man. Every football within 10 miles of him should be punctured so he does not get distracted (and ruined). Conor McCormack is going to be some talent as well.

If I were a betting man (I am not) I would tip Waterford next week. Two evenly matched teams but how do Wexford come back down to earth after that win? I know Liam Dunne is saying all the right things and he has an experienced head but the players are young and human and it is hard to get oneself up again to the required level. In a way Saturday's game is bigger test for Wexford.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 14/07/2014 15:02:16    1619031

bennybunny thanks for your good wishes. Well done to yourselves. I said in a drunken stouper on here one night about 7-8 years ago about puncturing footballs, to be honest I think both can work - look at Aidan Walsh! It's the hard training which kills a dual player.

It's Conor McDonald also, McCormack is the Dublin fellah!

But I agree with you, 2 groups of 7 with automatic relegation.

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 14/07/2014 15:56:58    1619095

It annoys me the way Loughnane & some of the other Sunday Game panelists constantly refer to Div 1B as division 2. The 7th ranked team in the country's league is thus labelled a division 2 team??? The GAA linked up the quarterfinals with teams from 1A & 1B to ensure this doesn't happen. Alas,...

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 14/07/2014 16:07:21    1619105

Pinkie. Walsh was shocking, admittedly as well as many others in the football match last week. I have no doubt that the dual player issue cost us dearly in the first half of the last decade and wexford recognised this as far back as the early fifties when they had two fine teams loaded with dual stars but they all opted for hurling before they achieved their full potential. I feel the dual player is definitely a think of the past with the current levels of committment required

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4321 - 14/07/2014 16:11:31    1619110

Oldtourman I do admit I didnt watch the football last weekend!! But I thought Aidan Walsh was excellent yesterday. I think the dual situation will always be pointed at when in reality it's more than likely that Walsh just had a bad day!
For me, its killing a lad training in between 2 matches which means he looks burned out - that didnt happen Walsh yesterday.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I still think if there is a will and accommodating managers it can be done.

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 14/07/2014 16:29:47    1619129

The Cork footballers were awful. Nothing to do with dual players etc.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 14/07/2014 18:28:49    1619237