Was at the hurling between laois and Galway at the weekend. Great display from our lads. I was looking forwards to the highlights that night. We got to six possibly seven of laois s 23 points, the vast majority of which were from play. Meanwhile fifteen minutes of the programme went on a black card discussion. Surely first and foremost its a highlights programme. The reason for the title of my thread is that last week I watched highlights of the laois Louth Leinster semi replay on you tube. This amounted to SEVENTEEN full minutes of action before analysis. most of the scores shown and action replays too. Why the change? It wouldn't happen on match of the day. And it's as if Sunday was an especially busy day of gaa.

Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 766 - 03/06/2014 13:53:22    1597290

I agree. Coverage of the Tipp Limerick footballers and Fermanagh Antrim was crap as well. I'm sick to death of these talking heads rambling on about the black card. The rules are fairly straightforward and referees making mistakes is not a new phenomenon. Get on with it and show us the matches!

roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 03/06/2014 14:23:46    1597315

Yes, I think RTe seem to think its all about analysis and controversy. The public only want that if there is only one game on, like a semi or a final. we don't want all this nonsense in the earlier rounds. we want to see the games, we want to see the teams that we would't normally see, the players that we may not have seen before. instead we get these talking heads giving their views on the current state of the GAA. these discussions are fine in a discussion or magazine programme but not during a supposed highlights programme.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 03/06/2014 14:30:44    1597321

The Sunday Game will give air time to what they think will capture the most attention - ratings = advertisement = revenue = running a business

They plan the program before the action. Just because a County has pulled out a good display doesn't mean that will change!

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 03/06/2014 14:31:03    1597323

I agree.As soon as i saw McEnaney on the panel i switched off.Nothing against him personally but i knew they were going to be talking about referees,black cards or some other rules.The highlights of the Laois/Galway game were atrocious.I was listening to the last 5 minutes of game live on Newstalk and the commentary of the last 21 yard free was brilliant.Was like Michael O Muigheartaigh in his pomp.Listening to the Sunday Game youd think it was a challenge game.No excitement in the voive of commentator.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 03/06/2014 14:31:25    1597324

A proper highlights show would be great although people in general like some proper discussion of the games as well.

The problem with the Sunday Game now is that it is falling between the two. The highlights aren't great and the discussion isn't great either. Can be good at times though it must be said.

I think the Sunday night show should be more about highlights then it currently is and then they should have a decent hour long programme (at the very least, probably more) during the week to discuss the weekend's action as well as preview the upcoming games.

I think there's a market there for 2 hour long shows during the week, say Tuesday/Thursday, one looking back and the other looking forward. Those shows will would get a very good audience imo.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13707 - 03/06/2014 14:48:55    1597339

I agree Mesamis.Definately should be a midweek show.If i were lucky enough to be in charge of tv schedule id have an hour long show on a wednesday or thursday.No doubt Marty Morrisseys programme will make an appearance soon.that is too short,its nearly over before it starts.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 03/06/2014 15:53:17    1597406

Nature of the beast I'm afraid

It's been mentioned above

All has already been planned to maximize ratings

Thus counties deemed with less pulling power by the RTE Schedulers etc etc

Will unfortunately never get full coverage as the big boys

That's not going to change... it's not fair but nothing is.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 03/06/2014 15:56:41    1597409

Will sky be doing a highlights show?

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6342 - 03/06/2014 16:30:41    1597446

03/06/2014 13:53:22 Malonemagic
Was at the hurling between laois and Galway at the weekend. Great display from our lads. I was looking forwards to the highlights that night. We got to six possibly seven of laois s 23 points, the vast majority of which were from play. Meanwhile fifteen minutes of the programme went on a black card discussion. Surely first and foremost its a highlights programme. The reason for the title of my thread is that last week I watched highlights of the laois Louth Leinster semi replay on you tube. This amounted to SEVENTEEN full minutes of action before analysis. most of the scores shown and action replays too. Why the change? It wouldn't happen on match of the day. And it's as if Sunday was an especially busy day of gaa.That's always been the way. Show brief highlights and a lot of discussion on games primarily for those who were at game.
Youtube will be quite different to tv...
03/06/2014 14:23:46 roundball
I agree. Coverage of the Tipp Limerick footballers and Fermanagh Antrim was crap as well. I'm sick to death of these talking heads rambling on about the black card. The rules are fairly straightforward and referees making mistakes is not a new phenomenon. Get on with it and show us the matches! The producers seem to think different. Write in etc and ask for more coverage and less discussion....

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 03/06/2014 17:08:21    1597465

I find the whole black cards issue amusing as the amount of over carrying and diving that has crept into hurling in the last year or two is being ignored and not even being mentioned on television. We had more of this black card debate last Sunday when they should have been showing action.

westisthebest (Galway) - Posts: 444 - 03/06/2014 17:09:00    1597467

03/06/2014 14:30:44 s goldrick
Yes, I think RTe seem to think its all about analysis and controversy. The public only want that if there is only one game on, like a semi or a final. we don't want all this nonsense in the earlier rounds. we want to see the games, we want to see the teams that we would't normally see, the players that we may not have seen before. instead we get these talking heads giving their views on the current state of the GAA. these discussions are fine in a discussion or magazine programme but not during a supposed highlights programme. It is all about analysis and commentary on the games shown. Public don't only want that if there is one game on. Sky do it all through premiership and Heineken cup seasons when they cover 10+ games in a weekend...
03/06/2014 14:31:03 Ban
The Sunday Game will give air time to what they think will capture the most attention - ratings = advertisement = revenue = running a business

They plan the program before the action. Just because a County has pulled out a good display doesn't mean that will change! +1

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 03/06/2014 17:18:23    1597479

Realistically, why do any of you care about analysis? Surely if RTE are putting up so much analysis, there is an audience willing to listen and evaluate the views and opinions of pundits. Why? Make up your own mind.

More game time and less talking please. The coverage of Fermanagh Antrim, which will probably be the game of the year was pitiful.

Ned_Stormcrow (Cavan) - Posts: 1071 - 03/06/2014 17:24:42    1597483

03/06/2014 14:48:55 MesAmis
A proper highlights show would be great although people in general like some proper discussion of the games as well.
The problem with the Sunday Game now is that it is falling between the two. The highlights aren't great and the discussion isn't great either. Can be good at times though it must be said.
I think the Sunday night show should be more about highlights then it currently is and then they should have a decent hour long programme (at the very least, probably more) during the week to discuss the weekend's action as well as preview the upcoming games.
I think there's a market there for 2 hour long shows during the week, say Tuesday/Thursday, one looking back and the other looking forward. Those shows will would get a very good audience imo. That's a good point. Possibly is a market for one midweek show to round up and preview games possibly on a Thursday night with Sunday just for rounding up results and Thursday as a preview ala Sky used to do with Rugby club on Heineken cup weekends. Sunday night had their weekend round up of highlights and discussion with Thursday a preview with some highlights
RTE clearly don't though. Would enough people be interested in that appealing to RTE via petition and at least try get a response from them??

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 03/06/2014 17:27:01    1597488

03/06/2014 17:24:42 Ned_Stormcrow
Realistically, why do any of you care about analysis? Surely if RTE are putting up so much analysis, there is an audience willing to listen and evaluate the views and opinions of pundits. Why? Make up your own mind.
More game time and less talking please. The coverage of Fermanagh Antrim, which will probably be the game of the year was pitiful. Because majority of people want some form of analysis as no matter what no analysis on a show makes show not look as good and people want to hear some discussion on the game. Generally the pundits have their own experiences and can compare them to current game they are covering...

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 03/06/2014 17:33:11    1597492

There used to be 'The Monday Game' on RTE back in the good old days but in truth the GAA action almost seems like a bit of a nuisance to RTE now. They seem to dedicate as little time as they can get away with to the GAA, and prefer to have the lads on the couches as the stars rather than the lads on the field. I am not sure if that is the GAA authorities fault or RTE's fault but the fact that RTE give so little coverage to GAA on the news etc suggests it is probably a decision made in Donnybrook. The GAA continues to get the highest viewing figures each year yet much less exposure on RTE than some other sports. If all decisions were made on viewership demands, commercial basis etc then you would be seeing a lot more GAA action and much less soccer and rugby on tv.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 03/06/2014 18:58:11    1597538

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Because majority of people want some form of analysis as no matter what no analysis on a show makes show not look as good and people want to hear some discussion on the game. Generally the pundits have their own experiences and can compare them to current game they are covering...


Fair point. But they overdo the analysis I think. Some people couldn't give a toss what some "expert" thinks, people just want to see football or hurling. Its about getting the balance I suppose.

Ned_Stormcrow (Cavan) - Posts: 1071 - 03/06/2014 19:21:40    1597555

OrmondBannerman you've missed my point . The you tube footage I referred to was taken directly from the Sunday Game of the time , with Michael Lyster's intro. etc.

Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 766 - 03/06/2014 19:28:24    1597556

Malonemagic -
Were the 17 minutes highlights of the actual match or the schomzzle that lasted almost that long just before the final whistle??????????

optimist (Louth) - Posts: 177 - 03/06/2014 19:39:04    1597562

Mid week analysis and discussion programme is needed. And previews of the following week's games
Sunday Game should be all about highlights

valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1890 - 03/06/2014 21:51:48    1597642