Are these lads now lost to hurling for their county at their own age level?

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keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 26/05/2014 12:59:07    1593509

I think so.

As far as I know Ó Conghaile isn't even hurling at club level. Certainly didn't line out for Lucan in last years Championship. I think I heard Lowdnes is hurling for Pereguines. Not sure about Costello.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13707 - 26/05/2014 13:06:02    1593513

We learnt from last year's defeat, so if the guys are not training regularly with the team they won't get picked.

So more or less they are lost.......at county level anyway.

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 26/05/2014 13:06:56    1593514

Just read that there, don't know if they have been prevented from playing but if that's the case then that's absolutely ridiculous! Whatever about not letting them play Senior Hurling along with Senior Football and U-21, they should be let play their own age group.

I don't see what the problem is if Cork can manage it no problem.
Good example being Alan Cadogan opting to play Senior & U-21 Hurling as well as U-21 Football. (Incidentally I think he could push for a starting place on the senior football starting 15 too but alas that's his decision.)
My point being preference should be given to the U-21 grade.

mrblob (Longford) - Posts: 71 - 26/05/2014 13:10:46    1593517

Costello is injured at the moment
O'Conghaile hasnt played hurling since minor,not even playing hurling for his club
Suprised Lowndes/McHugh are not playing hurling.They are not even guaranteed to be in Dublin first 26.

Gael85 (Dublin) - Posts: 1433 - 26/05/2014 13:11:54    1593519

All of these lads have said with a while that they would not be playing u21 this year the only one who was going to play was Ciaran Kilkenny and he is injured now. All are huge losses to Dublin hurling and it seems every year we have minors playing both codes and then they don't play for the hurlers when it comes to u21. This has always been the way and it doesn't look like changing too much either.

dubshurling7 (Dublin) - Posts: 1017 - 26/05/2014 13:21:53    1593528

Firstly 2 players played last year v Carlow who hadnt hurled in a long time (done little or no training with the 21 panel apparently) they gave the team nothing. There touch was poor. Fellas who arent hurling on a regular basis cant just turn it on for championship, so no loss on that regard

Secondly if fellas want to focus on 1 game fair enough but those fellas need to ask themself am I even going to get a jersey when the matchday squad is announced and I strongly suspect that 2 or 3 of these lads in question, wont! So giving up a code especially at there own grade in order to be the 27th 28th or whatever player in contention for a place in the other codes panel is a little sad

Brianmac78 (Dublin) - Posts: 1168 - 26/05/2014 13:27:10    1593533

A friend in peregrines has told me Eric hasnt played a hurling game in over a year with the club , now he was injured during that period also , but could hardly be expected to play for Dublin when hes not playing for club , don't be surprised if thats not the case with the other guys ,

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 26/05/2014 13:28:29    1593534

all three of these named players declared at the start of the year they would not be playing hurling at any grade
so I dont see the need for a thread never mind an article about it at this stage of the year
some badly informed journalism it seems or an alterior motive to try spark trouble in dublin gaa circles

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 26/05/2014 13:39:13    1593549

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A friend in peregrines has told me Eric hasnt played a hurling game in over a year with the club , now he was injured during that period also , but could hardly be expected to play for Dublin when hes not playing for club , don't be surprised if thats not the case with the other guys ,

He has defo hurled with them in the last year. Saw him at it!

But I don't think he's hurled this season at all with the club, or that he's going to either.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13707 - 26/05/2014 13:42:15    1593552

Agree 100% brianmac. The allegedly star dual players probably cost Dublin the match against Carlow last year. If a member of the football panel hadn't played or trained football for months do you think Farrell or Gavin would pick them on first team !!!!

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 26/05/2014 14:00:51    1593569

A non story by a lazy journalist.

If these lads haven't played any U-21 hurling with the county team this year or ever, they're hardly missing just because they were members of a pretty good minor team three years ago.

Tell us more about the lads who are actually playing please.

bricktop (Down) - Posts: 2503 - 26/05/2014 14:01:51    1593570

These lads are concentrating on the football so there is no story here, id love to see them hurl but they chose football and its better to see lads who want to hurl and are training be given the chance for team moral as much as anything else.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 26/05/2014 14:09:51    1593577

Costello and McHugh both played u21 for Dublin last year when Carlow beat them. But McHugh wasn't in the Dublin set up and the Dublin u21 footballers had got knocked out so it was easier to just play u21 hurling and senior football.

dubshurling7 (Dublin) - Posts: 1017 - 26/05/2014 14:16:14    1593588

sure mchugh hasnt been involved with the dublin senior panel

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 26/05/2014 14:19:31    1593591

It's a pity, though. These lads would probably have a better chance of making it with the county hurlers. Dublin hurling really needs to win an All-Ireland if they are to buck this trend.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 26/05/2014 14:20:14    1593592

Its not Jym Gavins priority ro care about hurling. his players are for football only. I hate to see it. its a joke as these lads should be allowed play the underage dual sports. Alrite at senior there is a bit much to commit to but they should be let off for the under 21.

Fishermantom (Limerick) - Posts: 569 - 26/05/2014 15:04:57    1593628

Its difficult enough to play one code, football will always have the glamour attraction in Dublin. But with Senior/Juvenile club managers insisting on players sticking to one code pressure starts a lot earlier. Before you could still play two codes at club level and one at county but that door in Dublin seems to be long closed.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 26/05/2014 15:16:08    1593641

keepr7

dont get the idea its a pity they obviously prefer football and are looking to nail down a spot in the football panel for the summer
if they are off hurling 10 days before championship first round or so they obviously arent going to be doing the hard work that the others on the senior football panel are doing so will have less chance of game time for senior footballers
I think it shows they are detremined to make it on the football panel.
last year kilkenny and costello played for under 21 hurlers and got slated for their performances when the team lost to carlow.
the under 21 hurlers have very good team this year o callaghan and mcclelland could well start for senior hurlers if given their oppurtunity, crummy likewise in half back hasnt been given a fair enough chance by anthony daly
glenn whelan is an excellent player and led ballinteer along with clabby in full forward to a first under 21 hurling championship this year. cronin has all but nailed down a senior starting position for the summer in half forward so I think its far more progressive for hurling in dublin to be giving these guys their chance at senior level as they are full time hurlers instead of whinging and making excuses about guys who wont be there its much more improtant to focus on guys
who want to play hurling and they are more then good enough to make a big impact at senior level just like danny sutcliffe and liam rushe are doing.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 26/05/2014 15:17:08    1593642

fishermantom

nobody is stopping them
all 3 of them announced at start of the year they would only be playing football themselves

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 26/05/2014 15:18:21    1593643