On what basis was it decided that an organisation representing two of the most popular sports in the country gets €2.4m This means Gaelic Football gets €1.2m and Hurling gets €1.2m(Assuming an equal divide) while rugby gets almost the same as both together €2.36m and they call us the Grab All Assoc.

mod (Mayo) - Posts: 859 - 17/04/2014 14:41:00    1576350

Good point. I wonder will Jerry be losing the plot attacking rugby?

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 17/04/2014 15:20:59    1576380

Why does a professional sport like rugby get a grant at all? Why don't they invest in cycling, track and field, swimming etc.

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 17/04/2014 15:37:32    1576401

why does soccer get 2.7 mill I would ask first?
sure they dont even look at the players who play in the airticity league when it comes to representing ireland

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 17/04/2014 15:40:49    1576406

Soccer is far from professional in this country. And rugby has a professional side and an amateur side.

Grants are given to develop sports. Obviously the FAI and IRFU have plans in place to use this do develop underage coaching structures.

Sure the Garth Athletic Association will be flush with cash this year....... Yeeeeeeeeeehawwwwwwwwwww

Let's all line dance ;-)

JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 17/04/2014 16:09:11    1576420

While I'm not saying the GAA should necessarily get more funding than the other bodies, the government is taking a pretty a la carte approach to equality. I'm no fan of the Sky deal, but if all associations are of equal importance, then why was the GAA hauled in front of an Oireachteas committee to explain selling 14 games to Sky? I don't recall the same demands being made to the FAI when rights were sold for Irish internationals to the same broadcaster (am I wrong?). The recent club rugby TV deals also don't seem to be warranting the same level of government scrutiny.

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 17/04/2014 16:51:25    1576455

JayP

but the money ploughed into underage soccer here is wasted as its only coaching kids to leave for england and scotland
your basically preparing kids for the english and scottish clubs to benifit from
thats a serious waste of money.
they would be better off trying to keep players in the airtricity league and promote it properly
that way you have a better chance of having kids want to play for clubs in ireland and have a carrear here instead of doing the british clubs work for them.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 17/04/2014 18:17:28    1576492

spot on marlon
I also didnt here joe duffy having a liveline show dedicated to the rugby world cup being shown on tv3
sure tv3 is not accesible for the 32 countys of ireland meaning the six countys in the north wont be able to watch their national side

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 17/04/2014 18:19:16    1576493

Hill

Investing in kids playing sport, be it soccer or rugby or GAA or whatever, is never a waste of money.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13703 - 17/04/2014 18:24:25    1576497

Thank you MesAmis!

Sure aren't we educating thousands of kids to emigrate to foreign soils because we don't have jobs for them here Hill!?

Soccer players go to Britain as it's the next step in them making a living through sport. And if they make it and are playing at a high standard that will help OUR NATIONAL soccer team.

Plus the success rate is so marginal that most end up staying in Ireland and playing junior soccer. Hardly a waste of money, and it keeps kids off the streets who don't have an interest in GAA.

I played soccer and GAA growing up. I hate this "us or them" mentality.

JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 17/04/2014 18:42:23    1576503

MesAmis
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Investing in kids playing sport, be it soccer or rugby or GAA or whatever, is never a waste of money.

a waste of money as in they are doing the british clubs jobs for them.
the point im making is they should give the kids something to ai at here in ireland
it is the irish governements money afterall so it should go towards boosting irish soccer not
preparing kids for british clubs.
they need to make the airtircity league cemented in these kids minds and thats where the money should go in devloping the game
so as to keep the kids playing for irish clubs when there progressing

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 17/04/2014 19:13:46    1576514

jayp

you have it all wrong and immediatly jump into a defensive mode because somebody is against doing the job for british clubs.
im pointing out that to develop soccer in ireland you need to do it at the top level first
kids need something to aim at in ireland not britian
to benifit irish soccer. club football is what the money is for not the international team

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 17/04/2014 19:16:10    1576515

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The benefits of investing in any sport isn't that you help to enable and develop a top athlete. That is only the tiny smmall part of it.

It's about health and community as well as all the other positive aspects that sport can bring.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13703 - 17/04/2014 19:41:12    1576526

mesmais

yes but they are competing with the british soccer assocaitions at the end of the day
if they do not make the airtricity league more attractive and a realistic goal for these kids then they will not stick around
its a simple equation
they need to change their objectives
producing kids to go off to britian does nothing for grass roots soccer at the end of the day

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 17/04/2014 20:20:21    1576538

Most people I know have TV3 up here hill. Well, at least they both say they have.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 17/04/2014 20:25:03    1576541

Most people I know have TV3 up here hill. Well, at least they both say they have.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 17/04/2014 20:29:24    1576546

hill16no1man
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yes but they are competing with the british soccer assocaitions at the end of the day
if they do not make the airtricity league more attractive and a realistic goal for these kids then they will not stick around
its a simple equation
they need to change their objectives
producing kids to go off to britian does nothing for grass roots soccer at the end of the day

Again Hill I repeat.

The benefits in investing in sports has almost NOTHING to do wih developing elite talent.

The vast majority of kids whoplay soccer in this country will not play at an eilte level but the investment is still worthwhile. Same with any other sport.

Soccer at a community level is the same as GAA at commmunity level. Providing an outlet and facilities for the community.

You keep going on about the odd kid that goes to England like that means that the 99% don't matter. GAA clubs have kids in them at the moment that may end up playing soccer/rugby professionally so dose the GAA not deserve funding because of that.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13703 - 17/04/2014 20:45:30    1576550

God Hill,
Judging by your posts they should be ignoring all sporting organizations and pumping every red cent back nto education. Your spelling and grammer is awful lad....

Dubfan Abroad (Dublin) - Posts: 282 - 17/04/2014 20:50:47    1576551

MesAmis

im talking about grassroots as a whole in soccer
these kids grow up idolising british soccer clubs
most of them will have been to a british soccer club match and never stepped foot inside an irish soccer club ground
they need to change this culture to succeed,as it will bring the money in to then develop from the bottom up.
the FAI job is not to keep fit or provide an outlet for community or a creche for parents on weekends
its to develop soccer in Ireland at the end of the day thats their aim.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 17/04/2014 21:16:04    1576566

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God Hill,
Judging by your posts they should be ignoring all sporting organizations and pumping every red cent back nto education. Your spelling and grammer is awful lad....

are you the new ormond or something?
sorry didnt know the public schoolboy attitude was neccessary on a forum about gaa
you must not use any kind of phone with predicitve text
no need to be smart if you have a pint or sorry is it point to debate by all means work away but until then is it neccessary to
try be the holier than thou sort on here.
oh and by the way seen as this is an irish forum its organisation not organization

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 17/04/2014 21:22:56    1576573