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Tomsmith here tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 3845 - 09/02/2014 18:02:38 1543654 Link 0 |
09/02/2014 18:02:38 ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 09/02/2014 18:16:25 1543670 Link 0 |
Tom, there is no big campaign to get rid of the black card, it's all in your head. MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 09/02/2014 18:22:56 1543683 Link 0 |
I say give it a chance.Games do seem to be getting played in a more open manner with some good high scoring games so far in the league.Sure we have give out plenty in the past about a yellow not having been shown or a red so there's no difference there.If the fear of the black card does something to free up games and lower foul counts without being shown then that will be its success. seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 09/02/2014 18:55:22 1543708 Link 0 |
Time to get rid of this abomination. O 'Shea should have walked again today for a foot trip if the rule was implemented. Good job he wasn't as it was better for Tyrone the longer he stayed on mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1821 - 09/02/2014 21:13:55 1543887 Link 0 |
Tomsmith here tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 3845 - 09/02/2014 21:50:48 1543929 Link 0 |
There was definately one in the mayo-tyrone game. In the first half a mayo player escaped his marker and the tyrone lad caught him by the hips pulled him back, with the two of them ending up on the ground. I am of the thinking that the black card should be reserved for the most obvious issues, but that one was nailed on. Going forward, there needs to be consistancy. TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 10/02/2014 09:38:20 1543974 Link 0 |
Conor Lane applied the new rules correctly yesterday in Killarney. Peter Crowley deserved his black card and he made the right calls in dishing out yellows to the Derry lads instead of black cards. He actually should have black carded Mark Griffin too but all in all he did a good job. Cute_Kerry_Hoor (Kerry) - Posts: 2518 - 10/02/2014 10:46:21 1544028 Link 0 |
Tom Smith is quite right. What is the point of a rule if it is not being implemented? I've seen several matches already where black cards should have been shown (a score was on when the player in possession was fouled, preventing him scoring. I thought the whole point of black cards was to prevent this sort of "professional" fouling. It is not supposed to be an option for the referee. The rule is there and he should implement it. If it is not being implemented, it should be removed. Midleton (Cork) - Posts: 643 - 10/02/2014 13:21:57 1544142 Link 0 |
I thought the whole point of black cards was to prevent this sort of "professional" fouling. It is not supposed to be an option for the referee. The rule is there and he should implement it. If it is not being implemented, it should be removed. doublehop (Kildare) - Posts: 4172 - 10/02/2014 13:34:53 1544165 Link 0 |
Im sure by the end of the year someone with time on their hands will produce some stats. I expect the amount of rugby tackles in Gaelic Football to decrease significantly. As will the amount of 3rd player tackes in my view. I expect the amount of scores per game to be higher, i expect games to be quicker and counter attacking football to have a new dimension now that tactical fouling has been actively addressed. seany16 (Dublin) - Posts: 1658 - 10/02/2014 14:05:12 1544192 Link 0 |
Agreed this rule is just nonsense. dstuction (Donegal) - Posts: 1209 - 10/02/2014 14:10:43 1544200 Link 0 |
There seems to be a bit of confusion here between a problem with a rule and what is just a refereeing error. In the games I have watched I have not really seen any inconsistency from referees and have thought the black card has been well used, but I have no doubt that there are referees getting it wrong across the country as there is on every other rule. What is interesting though is that the games have generally been more free-flowing, and a good bit easier to referee as players are now just concentrating on football. With the cynical practice of blocking runners off the ball now seeming to be removed from the game, hopefully there will not be as much focus put on gym work either, which should ease some of the burden on amateur players. So it could be said that the black card has improved the game for spectators, players and referees, and still some people think it is a bad idea. Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 10/02/2014 14:41:25 1544226 Link 0 |
the rule is doing it's job, the amount of back chat to refs is way down as is the taking out of players off the ball and the pulling down of players up the field. " fans" need to red up on the new rules and get it clear themselves what's involved, refs have to be satisfied that it's a deliberate act and not just a clumsy tackle and by and large they are erring on the side of caution. lillyboy (Kildare) - Posts: 429 - 10/02/2014 15:26:49 1544257 Link 0 |
The Black Card is a great incentive to free up the game. There is nothing sporting or manly about deliberate fouling. Joe Brolly's piece in the Gaelic Life last week hit the nail on the head. When Derry went 7 down against Tyrone, Tyrone would have previously shut up shop and not let Derry through, Im not picking on Tyrone, Any county would have did the same. But teams cant do that now, they have to maintain their discipline now and play football. Derry got a draw out of it. He also gave an interesting stat. In the games since the black card was introduced there is an average drop of 10 scores from frees per game to 5 with the amount of overall scores remaining the same. More scores from play, less hauling players to the ground or third man tackles and more open play. Referee's are not robots and do and will get decisions wrong, especially at the start. These are the rules, we better get used to it. Lastly before I get blasted by Tyrone, the one player who will run riot because of this new rule is Sean Cavanagh. Its a scary thought SC tearing through defences and no one taking him down!!!!! cavan97 (Cavan) - Posts: 369 - 10/02/2014 15:35:31 1544262 Link 0 |
doublehop Midleton (Cork) - Posts: 643 - 10/02/2014 21:24:28 1544510 Link 0 |