National - Strangest Refereeing Decision Ever??

Replying To cavanman47:  "Don't know about that. I think his decision to award a free for 2 Dublin players running into each other could be up there!"
Don't know, maybe you should watch it again without the ant-Dub shades on and see what the free was actually awarded for. It wasn't for two Dubs running into each other.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts:3054 - 18/09/2017 10:49:59   2047323

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Ref made some good / bad calls for both.
a tough game to ref, red cards were good calls.

Dublin getting free for 2 players running into each other, Eoin O'Gara hitting Boyle on the face when he was on the ground and got nothing and the penalty that wasnt given.

Cillian O'Connor took out Cooper for a free.

well done Dublin, Hard Luck Mayo. Great Game

Billy4 (Wicklow) - Posts:134 - 18/09/2017 12:46:27   2047410

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watching the game on TV yesterday I didn't think he gave the free for "2 dubs running in to each other" . It was another incident either before or after that collision so can people stop saying that. Just accept that Dublin won fair and square and that Mayo lost because they missed a few relatively easy chances for points and a rush of blood to the head by one of their most experienced players.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts:4909 - 18/09/2017 15:38:39   2047532

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Replying To gigoer:  "I see a few of you are mentioning Martin Sludden again. As a matter of interest, I read somewhere in the aftermath of that fiasco that Sludden's report stated that he was about to award a penalty when Sheridan was dragged down but when the ball was in the net, he decided to simply award the goal instead - but that in itself is a contravention of the rules, it's either a goal or it isn't, it's either a penalty or it isn't, a penalty doesn't automatically result in a goal.

But that could have been just internet BS or propaganda I was reading, either way, it belongs way up there in the list of strange refereeing decisions."
That's interesting. Now, as far as I know, if a player is fouled and the ball falls over the line, I think the ref can award the goal. Now, if I'm right, I figure he definitely couldn't award the goal if the fouled player throws it (with intent of course) over the line, but I don't know if he could award it if the fouled player carried the ball over the line like what happened that day. Maybe he could if the foul resulted in man and ball crossing the line (e.g. if he got a push or a smack in the gob). I don't know. It's many years too late to be asking this now, but was there any commentary at the time from referees in the aftermath of that disaster?

Taca√≠ Liatroma (Leitrim) - Posts:401 - 18/09/2017 19:59:58   2047662

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Schools provincial quarter final. First time my then school had been let into a ''real'' prov competiton rather than a vocational schoools competition. We were up by two with a minute to go, and under the cosh as they looked for a goal to win it. I got a block in on the 13 and it rebounded around, and eventually fell to an opposition man who just pulled on it. Dove across and spread myself as wide as I could just out of hope more than anything else. Ball hit me on the hip/rear end about 5/6 yards from where the shot was taken. Ref gives a foot block and penalty. They scored, game up on the kickout, they win by a point. They go on and win the province. Remember my last game for the school as captain crystal clear 8 years later for all the wrong reasons. I'll admit I did Lee Keegan it and throw my gumshield across the path of the penalty taker.

eastsligo (Sligo) - Posts:52 - 18/09/2017 21:17:04   2047719

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Replying To Joxer:  "Don't know, maybe you should watch it again without the ant-Dub shades on and see what the free was actually awarded for. It wasn't for two Dubs running into each other."
For me looking at it without shades of any colour and seeing a few replays of it I still can't see the foul. Neither of the 2 players tackling the player in possession fouled him. The ref seemed to indicate by a hand gesture that it was because there were 2 players tackling. Unless the old " 3rd Man Tackle" rule was suddenly and temporarily resurrected I cannot understand the decision. Maybe someone on here with refereeing experience could shed some light. As in all football games now there were many decisions that could have gone either way but that one just seemed bizarre.

Westfester (Limerick) - Posts:535 - 19/09/2017 00:16:51   2047840

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Replying To eastsligo:  "Schools provincial quarter final. First time my then school had been let into a ''real'' prov competiton rather than a vocational schoools competition. We were up by two with a minute to go, and under the cosh as they looked for a goal to win it. I got a block in on the 13 and it rebounded around, and eventually fell to an opposition man who just pulled on it. Dove across and spread myself as wide as I could just out of hope more than anything else. Ball hit me on the hip/rear end about 5/6 yards from where the shot was taken. Ref gives a foot block and penalty. They scored, game up on the kickout, they win by a point. They go on and win the province. Remember my last game for the school as captain crystal clear 8 years later for all the wrong reasons. I'll admit I did Lee Keegan it and throw my gumshield across the path of the penalty taker."
That's interesting. 8 years ago? You must have been one of a very few players wearing gum shields back then.

Westfester (Limerick) - Posts:535 - 19/09/2017 00:18:49   2047841

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Replying To Westfester:  "That's interesting. 8 years ago? You must have been one of a very few players wearing gum shields back then."
read it again. He didn't say "eight years ago". He said "eight years later"

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts:4909 - 19/09/2017 12:49:21   2048031

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I think there was a hand-trip by a mayo player in front of the referee (possibly AOS) , very similar to Johnny Cooper's last year but more blatant . ref obviously seen it and gave free to Dublin but no card. Did anyone else see that. I must watch it again. something similar happened last year too with John Small on Andy Moran and no black card. so it's a lottery.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts:4909 - 19/09/2017 12:55:49   2048037

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Replying To Iamlegion666:  "Its not possible, the only way you could have given another card after the black was if the player has used foul language or struck a player, etc, in which case, that would be a straight red. Unless you gave a yellow for him kicking a ball away, then you were just being a *****"
Dissent. He wouldn't leave the field

Sindar (Roscommon) - Posts:102 - 19/09/2017 14:09:10   2048075

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Replying To s goldrick:  "I think there was a hand-trip by a mayo player in front of the referee (possibly AOS) , very similar to Johnny Cooper's last year but more blatant . ref obviously seen it and gave free to Dublin but no card. Did anyone else see that. I must watch it again. something similar happened last year too with John Small on Andy Moran and no black card. so it's a lottery."
Saw that. Absolute black card alright. Aidan lucky refs were told to spare the black cards. Same issue would have arisen if penalty had been awarded to Keegan, since it was a deliberate pull down. Ref brought the foul back despite not signalling advantage.

Joe at his best in 2012: ball kicked into BB who gave his marker Cafferkey a push into the path of another Mayo defender. The two players heads clashed, so play was stopped, but it was restarted with a free in for the Dubs, which they scored. So last day was quite rational beside that decision.

When they want it to flow, they give it to Joe.
When they want it to stop, they give it to Gough.

My preference is for Gough. He's far more consistent.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts:1708 - 19/09/2017 15:21:26   2048120

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Replying To s goldrick:  "read it again. He didn't say "eight years ago". He said "eight years later""
Are you being serious?

Westfester (Limerick) - Posts:535 - 19/09/2017 20:11:19   2048259

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Replying To Westfester:  "Are you being serious?"
Are you? I wore a gumshield 14 years ago, boxing and other field sports made me more aware of safety before the gaa entered the modern age.

Iamlegion666 (Monaghan) - Posts:247 - 19/09/2017 20:36:38   2048273

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Replying To Iamlegion666:  "Are you? I wore a gumshield 14 years ago, boxing and other field sports made me more aware of safety before the gaa entered the modern age."
My question was about the 8 years ago vs 8 years later comment.
Of course there were players wearing gum shields 8 years ago or even 14 years ago. Would you agree you were in a minority back then?
By the way was that 14 years ago or is it 14 years later now????

Westfester (Limerick) - Posts:535 - 19/09/2017 21:02:21   2048284

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Replying To Westfester:  "That's interesting. 8 years ago? You must have been one of a very few players wearing gum shields back then."
Trevor Giles was wearing them 20 years ago.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts:11958 - 19/09/2017 21:08:40   2048286

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Replying To Westfester:  "That's interesting. 8 years ago? You must have been one of a very few players wearing gum shields back then."
Being an 18 year old just after getting train track braces removed I wasn't and still don't take any chances when I comes to my teeth, cause the braces done minor miracles for me!

eastsligo (Sligo) - Posts:52 - 20/09/2017 13:54:28   2048566

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