National - Time to get rid of U-21s???

With the new Hurling format is it time to get rid of the U-21s for scheduling purposes if nothing else? What with Seniors, Minors, Club Hurling, etc it may be time to think about it.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts:37 - 02/10/2017 13:59:16   2052394

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sure club hurling is played in the winter,it has no effect on this

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts:2090 - 02/10/2017 15:04:00   2052432

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No my friend. It's the best knock out hurling championship in Ireland. If the new changes to senior back fire them the under 21 could be bigger than senior. Like college football out shining NFL.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts:717 - 02/10/2017 15:12:16   2052438

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Nah play it on the same weekends as senior, a player can only be named in one panel any weekend. Use it as a bridge to the senior game.

Club games aren't being played anyway so u21 might as well be played those weekends. Have u19s on those weekends also and give them both proper competitions to play in.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts:1778 - 02/10/2017 17:09:05   2052490

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Replying To Whammo86:  "Nah play it on the same weekends as senior, a player can only be named in one panel any weekend. Use it as a bridge to the senior game.

Club games aren't being played anyway so u21 might as well be played those weekends. Have u19s on those weekends also and give them both proper competitions to play in."
Fair enough but that's a disadvantage to a Senior team loaded with young talent that they can't use the young players due to a scheduling conflict with U-21s.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts:37 - 03/10/2017 15:48:05   2052741

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Replying To bloodyban:  "No my friend. It's the best knock out hurling championship in Ireland. If the new changes to senior back fire them the under 21 could be bigger than senior. Like college football out shining NFL."
The new changes to the Hurling format can be gotten rid of in 2 years if it backfires. Interesting how you compared it to college football/NFL though.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts:37 - 03/10/2017 15:52:58   2052745

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I think the well supported counties will enjoy the new format and get stronger. I don't know how the rest will do. For me the under 21 is just perfect as a stand alone championship

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts:717 - 03/10/2017 18:58:39   2052791

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Replying To bloodyban:  "I think the well supported counties will enjoy the new format and get stronger. I don't know how the rest will do. For me the under 21 is just perfect as a stand alone championship"
But the well supported counties already are just fine. I think the GAA had to at least make an attempt to broaden the game (and interest) a bit.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts:37 - 04/10/2017 19:53:18   2053127

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Replying To Trump2020:  "But the well supported counties already are just fine. I think the GAA had to at least make an attempt to broaden the game (and interest) a bit."
Trump
I think it is interesting, in that regard that the last two winners of this championship have not won the senior title in 44 and 58 years respectively.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts:1360 - 05/10/2017 23:48:26   2053470

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Trump
I think it is interesting, in that regard that the last two winners of this championship have not won the senior title in 44 and 58 years respectively."
Strangely it doesn't always translate to Senior success. Galway are the best example of that. Since 1988 look at all the Minor and U21 and Club All Irelands we have won and yet couldn't translate it into Senior All Ireland's. A large part of that though was the brilliant Kilkenny team that destroyed everyone not JUST Galway.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts:37 - 06/10/2017 14:01:03   2053582

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Trump
I think it is interesting, in that regard that the last two winners of this championship have not won the senior title in 44 and 58 years respectively."
Strangely it doesn't always translate to Senior success. Galway are the best example of that. Since 1988 look at all the Minor and U21 and Club All Irelands we have won and yet couldn't translate it into Senior All Ireland's. A large part of that though was the brilliant Kilkenny team that destroyed everyone not JUST Galway.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts:37 - 06/10/2017 15:51:09   2053622

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Replying To bloodyban:  "No my friend. It's the best knock out hurling championship in Ireland. If the new changes to senior back fire them the under 21 could be bigger than senior. Like college football out shining NFL."
Completely agree. U-21's and Fitzgibbon are fantastic competitions and IMO better than the SHC.

Yank_inyerchain (USA) - Posts:6 - 21/10/2017 14:50:54   2056805

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I also would have said scrap it, but now that the Powers that be have finally got rid of the ridiculous situation where Galway went straight into an All Ireland semi final not having played one match, I'm open to seeing how it goes over the next two years. The perfect situation for the U-21 would have been to trial an open draw, or scrap the provinces and have four groups of four teams, with the top two teams in each group going into the quarter finals, but some counties in particular are just wedged to the provincial championships, and will never change.

gilly2308 (Galway) - Posts:1082 - 23/10/2017 12:17:02   2057200

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