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link GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7344 - 18/08/2017 09:03:13 2034994 Link 0 |
Near impossible unfortunately to change our attitude to drink in this country. catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 18/08/2017 09:34:36 2035001 Link 1 |
Don't think you can blame young people as they grow up watching their parents and there generations use alcohol as the only way to celebrate or it has to be central to any occasion so what do you expect them to do when they hit 18 themselves it's already ingrained in their mindset by then that it's the exceptable thing to do. I don't drink and doesn't stop me enjoying myself at all these occasions I just don't need it to let loose when people realise that it will make it easier for them not to think you need alcohol to enjoy anything hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 18/08/2017 09:58:47 2035010 Link 2 |
In terms of the GAA, a mature attitude to alcohol would be to get rid of these stupid and unnecessary drink bans and let any players who want to, enjoy a few (few) social drinks after a match. What harm does 4 or 5 pints do to any player if there next game isn't for another 2-3 weeks? These guys are amateurs, they put aside so much of their life to play on a county team, denying them a regular chance to socially bond with their team mates and release stress is madness. TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 18/08/2017 10:09:27 2035012 Link 0 |
Glad you mentioned gambling as that's the one that often gets ignored. Especially these days when it's so easy for people to be lured into the honey trap by the online companies. Tap Tap Boom and all that rubbish. Carrot of a few free bets and a lot of people are suckered.
MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts: 2324 - 18/08/2017 10:13:30 2035015 Link 0 |
I agree with some of what you say. The "kids" (Jesus I am only 30 but feel old) who done their leaving cert recently do seem more mature. However I am talking about those who are involved in GAA. I think sport has a great grounding effect on young people, they are healthier and much more mature. What is worse now days is young people engaging in hard drugs.....I have seen it and it's something that was not done when I was that age.
yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11230 - 18/08/2017 10:37:21 2035022 Link 0 |
Good to see a high profile player speak out. Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 18/08/2017 10:37:30 2035023 Link 6 |
Spot on Hill. I'm not blaming young people at all, just that we need to be starting with our youth if we can ever change attitudes. Difficult for an 18 year old think differently if they were dragged to a pub when they were young to watch Mam and Dad drink. We have sex education in secondary schools but no education on responsible attitudes to drugs and alcohol. I think vintner's association wouldn't be too happy if we did. Proposals like increasing the cost of off-licence alcohol to curb binge drinking make me laugh. Why not find out what motivates people to get drunk in the first place? I'm not anti-drink. Most of us can drink responsibly. My Dad hasn't drank in more than 40 years, a day at a time. But there's something very wrong with the 'yer man is some man for pints' bravado attitude like a badge of honour. Saying it will never change means it definitely will get only worse. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7344 - 18/08/2017 11:14:55 2035051 Link 0 |
Have to share this with you lads. Medway Council have recently made Gillingham town centre precinct an "alcohol control zone". They've restricted the cans of beer available to 5.5% and below which is no bad thing BUT how ridiculous is this..........I wandered into one of the mini-markets next to the station for a can for the train journey to London for a gig. The woman behind the counter said "sorry sir, I can't serve you" For a moment I thought I was being ID'd at almost 40! Unfortunately she wasn't flattering my ego and pointed to a notice stating the sale of single cans are now prohibited. MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts: 2324 - 18/08/2017 11:45:55 2035063 Link 1 |
A lot of Irish adults and especially our youth are dipsos. They wouldn't be classed as alcoholics but when they do get out for a drink it's drunk or nothing. Traditionally that's what happened in the GAA. Long periods of abstinence followed by an almighty rip of pints when the go ahead was given. Often this led to a day or two even on the cure. Madness really. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9133 - 18/08/2017 12:12:40 2035075 Link 0 |
A friend of mine who owns a bar in NYC said once said the Yanks go out for 2/3 beers most nights after work and head on home. Paddy waits until the weekend and goes mad. I couldn't fault what he said. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11230 - 18/08/2017 12:30:17 2035080 Link 0 |
Yep, that's it. It might take you a while to drink the wages but you could lose the lot in 5 minutes online. catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 18/08/2017 13:03:38 2035096 Link 1 |
Booze is a pox on this country. jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 18/08/2017 15:10:41 2035120 Link 0 |
I don't like being drunk but I definitely got into the habit of having a "few" more evenings than not to cope with the end of my marriage and the death of my mum within an 18 month period. I know exactly where you're coming from with the self-loathing, depression and anxiety have been a part of my psyche since early teenhood. Most people wouldn't have the guts to pull the trigger or jump on the live rail but slowly rotting your own liver............easy really.
MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts: 2324 - 18/08/2017 15:39:21 2035134 Link 0 |
A friend of mine who owns a bar in NYC said once said the Yanks go out for 2/3 beers most nights after work and head on home. Paddy waits until the weekend and goes mad. I couldn't fault what he said. if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3685 - 18/08/2017 15:48:37 2035140 Link 0 |
Change is possible, just look at the decrease in people smoking because it was no longer socially acceptable to smoke. The main issue is that from a young age kids believe that when they are out that in order to be sociable with others they need to drink. It takes years to eliminate that and a lot of people never do. Looking back now I wish at an early age I had learned the ability to enjoy myself without the perceived need of the drink relaxer. I don't believe what Brogan said was in any way inspiring rather the opposite as there was not one twinge of regret and an understanding of what causes the problems - most of us don't play intercounty football for the top teams in the country and the issues are far more common man than the need to go on the lash after six months of being on the dry. zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1804 - 18/08/2017 15:50:24 2035141 Link 1 |
I think the attitude has changed a bit in recent years but to much more extremes. keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 18/08/2017 16:09:56 2035149 Link 0 |
Being sociable.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7344 - 18/08/2017 16:41:52 2035163 Link 0 |
It takes more guts to face up to your problems and do something about it than ending yourself, though.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7344 - 18/08/2017 16:43:42 2035165 Link 0 |
From a rural perspective, I think climate has a huge bearing on Ireland and UK attitude towards drink. Look I love going out myself at the weekend and sometimes over do it. When the evenings start to close in and the days are short, the GAA season is over, your local pub can be the only source of social outlet....or what's left of rural Ireland. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11230 - 18/08/2017 16:44:43 2035166 Link 0 |