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I counted the number of hurling threads on here and 3 out of 30, 10%, are hurling threads.
It's a sad reflection on the national interest levels in hurling. You'd wonder after 133 years how the game hasn't spread or been promoted more. I'm not going to compare gaelic football to hurling and say one is better than the other. But surely hurling is the equal of gaelic football. In my opinion both games when played properly and between teams of equal ability are excellent. A bad hurling game is as bad as a bad football game.
However, Kieran Donaghy alone has 2 threads on the national forum here while Galway v Tipp in hurling, which has been a classic for 2 years and is shaping up to be another, trails behind. And you have nothing threads like 'Ulster Boys Making All the Noise on the Hill', 'Kerry have it easy' , 'Cute Kerry H*ors', 'Pat on Jim', 'Andy Moran-Roscommon fans' all accumulating comment. There's all the usual quota of bull threads you get at this time of the year, some biging up the opposition, others saying they're cynical, highlighting small incidents in games and trying to make big disciplinary issues out of them, criticising booing etc etc.
Like how many times can we rehash Kerry have it easy and are cute ho*rs or Dublin are a juggernaut with huge financial backing and a massive population base? These topics have been done to death for over 10yrs.
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Replying To Laois76: "I counted the number of hurling threads on here and 3 out of 30, 10%, are hurling threads.
It's a sad reflection on the national interest levels in hurling. You'd wonder after 133 years how the game hasn't spread or been promoted more. I'm not going to compare gaelic football to hurling and say one is better than the other. But surely hurling is the equal of gaelic football. In my opinion both games when played properly and between teams of equal ability are excellent. A bad hurling game is as bad as a bad football game.
However, Kieran Donaghy alone has 2 threads on the national forum here while Galway v Tipp in hurling, which has been a classic for 2 years and is shaping up to be another, trails behind. And you have nothing threads like 'Ulster Boys Making All the Noise on the Hill', 'Kerry have it easy' , 'Cute Kerry H*ors', 'Pat on Jim', 'Andy Moran-Roscommon fans' all accumulating comment. There's all the usual quota of bull threads you get at this time of the year, some biging up the opposition, others saying they're cynical, highlighting small incidents in games and trying to make big disciplinary issues out of them, criticising booing etc etc.
Like how many times can we rehash Kerry have it easy and are cute ho*rs or Dublin are a juggernaut with huge financial backing and a massive population base? These topics have been done to death for over 10yrs." empty vessels make the most noise Laois76.
bricktop (Down) - Posts: 2503 - 02/08/2017 15:12:11
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Agree with your general sentiments there but you can't force people what to read or post. In terms of hurling being a national game, not really. Aside Galway it's all happening south of Dublin and probably always will.
That said, I'm the black sheep of my family in that I prefer football to hurling.
MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts: 2324 - 02/08/2017 15:20:21
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No point getting too worked up about it because I don't see it changing anytime soon. Keep posting about hurling, that's all you can do on a personal level here.
I find it strange that the GAA tries to push Hurling outside of Ireland but doesn't seem to do as much to promote the game in Ireland. You see GFC clubs in football counties at opposed to GAA clubs. I am not aware of a HC in Tipperary, my club and any club I ever played against was a GAA club. There would be uproar on here if Kilkenny clubs changed from GAA club to HC.
I had genuine excitement for the Jeff Stelling/ Chris Kamara's trip around Ireland to learn more about the GAA but I felt deflated when I realised that it will only look at Gaelic Football. The frustrating thing is it's an AIB initiative, not a sky sports led one. I hope they will do a part two next year that looks at Hurling but you'd never know what might happen. Even that alone is frustrating, real begging bowl stuff. Maybe the thinking is that Gaelic Football might draw in soccer fans in the U.K. faster than Hurling especially with with Stelling and Kamara doing it.
The all Ireland club hurling final always seems to be the curtain raiser to the football final on St Patrick's. I would like to see it alternate from year to year.
There is plenty to get annoyed about, you just have to keep plugging away. As the saying goes "hard decisions, easy life; easy decisions, hard life".
Unfortunately the easy decisions seemed to be made from frequently than the hard decisions.
Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 02/08/2017 15:58:31
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Replying To Laois76: "I counted the number of hurling threads on here and 3 out of 30, 10%, are hurling threads.
It's a sad reflection on the national interest levels in hurling. You'd wonder after 133 years how the game hasn't spread or been promoted more. I'm not going to compare gaelic football to hurling and say one is better than the other. But surely hurling is the equal of gaelic football. In my opinion both games when played properly and between teams of equal ability are excellent. A bad hurling game is as bad as a bad football game.
However, Kieran Donaghy alone has 2 threads on the national forum here while Galway v Tipp in hurling, which has been a classic for 2 years and is shaping up to be another, trails behind. And you have nothing threads like 'Ulster Boys Making All the Noise on the Hill', 'Kerry have it easy' , 'Cute Kerry H*ors', 'Pat on Jim', 'Andy Moran-Roscommon fans' all accumulating comment. There's all the usual quota of bull threads you get at this time of the year, some biging up the opposition, others saying they're cynical, highlighting small incidents in games and trying to make big disciplinary issues out of them, criticising booing etc etc.
Like how many times can we rehash Kerry have it easy and are cute ho*rs or Dublin are a juggernaut with huge financial backing and a massive population base? These topics have been done to death for over 10yrs." You can't say that the number of hurling threads v football threads reflects the national interest in either sport. Perhaps the hurling posters are more self-assured about hurling and don't feel the need to start up so many threads about it.
Hurling is the best game in the world, bar none. Football doesn't come close. I live in West Meath, where hurling is popular and a lot of kids play hurling and camogie. I think that's more a gauge of hurling's popularity, than what threads a tiny percent of a percent of GAA supporters decide to go battle over, with keyboards!
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7336 - 02/08/2017 16:44:50
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am probably 60-40 in terms of my hurling football preference,i also think that hurling for the most part has less saga's,less nonsense,etc connected with the game.
i work with the public in wexford,and there is little interest in hurling compared to football.in fact,the hurling 2017 thread on wexford page has over 100 pages!!!
perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 02/08/2017 16:46:52
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Good thread. Another issue is that the traditional hurling counties are nearly all big big population counties. So that puts the bar even higher for small counties who push hurling.
There's alot of hurling only clubs in Munster.. east Clare has alot. Sixmilebridge being Sixmilebridge hurling club. Patrickswell, Glen Rovers ect.. (maybe not so many after all)
bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 02/08/2017 18:28:21
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Replying To Killarney.87: "No point getting too worked up about it because I don't see it changing anytime soon. Keep posting about hurling, that's all you can do on a personal level here.
I find it strange that the GAA tries to push Hurling outside of Ireland but doesn't seem to do as much to promote the game in Ireland. You see GFC clubs in football counties at opposed to GAA clubs. I am not aware of a HC in Tipperary, my club and any club I ever played against was a GAA club. There would be uproar on here if Kilkenny clubs changed from GAA club to HC.
I had genuine excitement for the Jeff Stelling/ Chris Kamara's trip around Ireland to learn more about the GAA but I felt deflated when I realised that it will only look at Gaelic Football. The frustrating thing is it's an AIB initiative, not a sky sports led one. I hope they will do a part two next year that looks at Hurling but you'd never know what might happen. Even that alone is frustrating, real begging bowl stuff. Maybe the thinking is that Gaelic Football might draw in soccer fans in the U.K. faster than Hurling especially with with Stelling and Kamara doing it.
The all Ireland club hurling final always seems to be the curtain raiser to the football final on St Patrick's. I would like to see it alternate from year to year.
There is plenty to get annoyed about, you just have to keep plugging away. As the saying goes "hard decisions, easy life; easy decisions, hard life".
Unfortunately the easy decisions seemed to be made from frequently than the hard decisions." People will watch and play what the want I am totally hurling but if you want to engage on this message board you really have to leave it elsewhere. What I find incredible after all these years that we have GFC's and not GAA clubs, there are very few admitedly in Dublin, thankfully very few, some of these have no women either so I guess these clubs are populated by Cavemen. But aside from that I certainly cannot understand the GAA given grants and support to exclusively single coded clubs they are NOT GAA clubs. As for no women - only golf clubs and certain nameless clubs have kept the sabre toothed tiger loin cloths going.
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Replying To bloodyban: "Good thread. Another issue is that the traditional hurling counties are nearly all big big population counties. So that puts the bar even higher for small counties who push hurling.
There's alot of hurling only clubs in Munster.. east Clare has alot. Sixmilebridge being Sixmilebridge hurling club. Patrickswell, Glen Rovers ect.. (maybe not so many after all)" Hey Bloodyban, good point about the populations.
I realise there are clubs that play Hurling only like Sixmilebridge. What I mean is Sixmilebridge still called themselves a GAA club whereas some football only clubs will call themselves a GFC. I no I am being pedantic and it's a subtle difference but big enough a difference all the same.
The Glen Rovers lads play football for St Kieran's just like Inane Rovers is the Gaelic Football team in Roscrea.
GFC to me says we are Gaelic football only whereas GAA says you acknowledge both sports.
Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 02/08/2017 18:46:09
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Love me hurling , love me football , less people to discuss hurling with in my club pub etc I'd see this forum as predominantly a football forum with occasional hurling threads , but it's a free world lads can do what they like , will admit repetitive topics have driven good posters away and some to post less
Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 02/08/2017 18:54:26
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Replying To Damothedub: "Love me hurling , love me football , less people to discuss hurling with in my club pub etc I'd see this forum as predominantly a football forum with occasional hurling threads , but it's a free world lads can do what they like , will admit repetitive topics have driven good posters away and some to post less" I agree with you there Damo i allways thought hoganstand was more of a football forum. There was an excellent hurling forum called, An Fear Rua, run by a Tipperary journalist, but he had to shut it down because of unruly posters.
clonjon (Dublin) - Posts: 665 - 02/08/2017 20:02:59
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Hurling is not really a national sport and is less intriguing because of it.
The same teams play each other over and over again and there is very little fluctuation in anything compared to football where 24/25 counties have got to the all ireland quarter finals since 2001 and where there are constant changes in the sport and teams come and go at the top level.
To be honest I think football when played well is the best sport in the world it has everything as a sport ,I think it's a little too easy to score in hurling and it makes to less enjoyable as you get less play in the game and less effort and strategy at times is required to get a score.
uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 02/08/2017 21:25:34
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Replying To uibhfhaili1986: "Hurling is not really a national sport and is less intriguing because of it.
The same teams play each other over and over again and there is very little fluctuation in anything compared to football where 24/25 counties have got to the all ireland quarter finals since 2001 and where there are constant changes in the sport and teams come and go at the top level.
To be honest I think football when played well is the best sport in the world it has everything as a sport ,I think it's a little too easy to score in hurling and it makes to less enjoyable as you get less play in the game and less effort and strategy at times is required to get a score." Ye I agree in terms of the numbers playing football in comparison to hurling and also the fact it's a lot easier to score from distance in hurling but having said that, this summer has been a very intriguing one for hurling. Now, you can say Kilkenny are caught between stools at the moment and it'll be less competitive once their underage lads have had another couple of seasons worth of experience but we can only deal with the here and now.
MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts: 2324 - 02/08/2017 21:41:48
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More could be done about hurling in most non-hurling counties. Most modern clubs, there are so many kids participating that there are hardly enough teams for everyone anyway. II know they're not that great at the moment, but there can be no denying the love of hurling in North Antrim:
http://www.glenariffeoisins.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Intermadiate-Hurling-Championship-Cup-Photo-1988.jpg
My own county doesn't really promote hurling; it kind of tolerates it. More could certainly be done.
essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 02/08/2017 22:29:22
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Dia Duit
I do not like hurling. I like football
Slan
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Replying To arock: "People will watch and play what the want I am totally hurling but if you want to engage on this message board you really have to leave it elsewhere. What I find incredible after all these years that we have GFC's and not GAA clubs, there are very few admitedly in Dublin, thankfully very few, some of these have no women either so I guess these clubs are populated by Cavemen. But aside from that I certainly cannot understand the GAA given grants and support to exclusively single coded clubs they are NOT GAA clubs. As for no women - only golf clubs and certain nameless clubs have kept the sabre toothed tiger loin cloths going." It's very easy talk about playing both codes when you have 90, 100 kids at every age group , another thing entirely when you need to play girls in boys teams just to able to field a team and amalgamate in a lot of cases
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Replying To The.Oracle: "Dia Duit
I do not like hurling. I like football
Slan" In which case you're probably on the wrong thread. Where were you looking to go? Can we help in any way?
MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts: 2324 - 03/08/2017 12:11:27
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In many ways our attitude towards hurling is like our attitude towards the Irish language: a lot of "lip service" paid to both. Sometimes the "elite" in both movements put off outsiders from getting involved. People who consider themselves to be "hurling" people in "strong" hurling counties talk about spreading the game, but really have no interest in disturbing the status quo. (And I'll be completely honest, I'm much more of a football fan, despite living in a "hurling" county)
football first (None) - Posts: 1259 - 03/08/2017 12:20:25
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Replying To MedwayIrish: "In which case you're probably on the wrong thread. Where were you looking to go? Can we help in any way?" He's the oracle he will find his way , but then he knows that already
Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 03/08/2017 13:21:16
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I would say most people involved in hurling are in it for the love of the sport, that doesn't always appear to be the case in football. Since helmets with faceguards correctly became mandatory I think hurling has lost a bit though and it has made the game less personal - you no longer get the images of a Lohan, Ciaran Carey, O'Sullivan, Pilkington etc. All the main players back then were instantly recognisable but I'd really struggle to identify some of the best modern players now If I met them on the street.
Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 03/08/2017 15:07:01
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