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Brolly's constant contradictions and Kerry Bias

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Not sure how many of you remember Brolly picking Donegal to beat Tyrone earlier this year, cant turn sideways now without hearing Brolly spouting something about how brilliant this Tyrone team are. He was also feeling awful for the " end " of this great Donegal team instead of maybe pointing some credit to the team who had beaten them by 15points? Also like to add can we get a Kerry pundit that doesnt mention Kerry every 5seconds , between three O'Se brothers, Gooch, Cinneide, Galvin and of course last but not least Spillane. They could be reviewing a game between Carlow and Leitrim and they could still manage to fit Kerry football into it 20 times. They havent won an all ireland in whats coming up to 4 years, Dublin should be the team theyre talking about nowadasy and Tyrone were the team they couldnt beat in the noughties. Need to get new blood to review games and stop talking about their own counties/agendas. End of Sunday game rant.

candlewax (Galway) - Posts: 282 - 25/07/2017 20:34:42    2023465

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Replying To candlewax:  "Not sure how many of you remember Brolly picking Donegal to beat Tyrone earlier this year, cant turn sideways now without hearing Brolly spouting something about how brilliant this Tyrone team are. He was also feeling awful for the " end " of this great Donegal team instead of maybe pointing some credit to the team who had beaten them by 15points? Also like to add can we get a Kerry pundit that doesnt mention Kerry every 5seconds , between three O'Se brothers, Gooch, Cinneide, Galvin and of course last but not least Spillane. They could be reviewing a game between Carlow and Leitrim and they could still manage to fit Kerry football into it 20 times. They havent won an all ireland in whats coming up to 4 years, Dublin should be the team theyre talking about nowadasy and Tyrone were the team they couldnt beat in the noughties. Need to get new blood to review games and stop talking about their own counties/agendas. End of Sunday game rant."
I used to have respect for his original views which I believe were honestly held. Now Brolly is just a parody of himself, a Spitting Image puppet who plays to the gallery. Joe sadly has become a figure of ridicule and fun now and no one really listens to him anymore. He has lost the one thing a sports pundit needs and that's respect. Brolly is part of the Dublin Establishment now.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9697 - 25/07/2017 23:03:13    2023555

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Replying To candlewax:  "Not sure how many of you remember Brolly picking Donegal to beat Tyrone earlier this year, cant turn sideways now without hearing Brolly spouting something about how brilliant this Tyrone team are. He was also feeling awful for the " end " of this great Donegal team instead of maybe pointing some credit to the team who had beaten them by 15points? Also like to add can we get a Kerry pundit that doesnt mention Kerry every 5seconds , between three O'Se brothers, Gooch, Cinneide, Galvin and of course last but not least Spillane. They could be reviewing a game between Carlow and Leitrim and they could still manage to fit Kerry football into it 20 times. They havent won an all ireland in whats coming up to 4 years, Dublin should be the team theyre talking about nowadasy and Tyrone were the team they couldnt beat in the noughties. Need to get new blood to review games and stop talking about their own counties/agendas. End of Sunday game rant."
Well when Galway get 37 All-Ireland's maybe people will talk about them more, ditto Dublin, Tyrone and whoever else.

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 25/07/2017 23:14:45    2023569

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Replying To candlewax:  "Not sure how many of you remember Brolly picking Donegal to beat Tyrone earlier this year, cant turn sideways now without hearing Brolly spouting something about how brilliant this Tyrone team are. He was also feeling awful for the " end " of this great Donegal team instead of maybe pointing some credit to the team who had beaten them by 15points? Also like to add can we get a Kerry pundit that doesnt mention Kerry every 5seconds , between three O'Se brothers, Gooch, Cinneide, Galvin and of course last but not least Spillane. They could be reviewing a game between Carlow and Leitrim and they could still manage to fit Kerry football into it 20 times. They havent won an all ireland in whats coming up to 4 years, Dublin should be the team theyre talking about nowadasy and Tyrone were the team they couldnt beat in the noughties. Need to get new blood to review games and stop talking about their own counties/agendas. End of Sunday game rant."
Hold on Brolly is nothing but inconsistent and that's the only thing that's consistent about him. He recently commented on the Donegal v Galway game and mentioned Tyrone, in a less than favourable way, more often than the 2 teams that actually played the game !!!!

IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 25/07/2017 23:18:46    2023572

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Replying To candlewax:  "Not sure how many of you remember Brolly picking Donegal to beat Tyrone earlier this year, cant turn sideways now without hearing Brolly spouting something about how brilliant this Tyrone team are. He was also feeling awful for the " end " of this great Donegal team instead of maybe pointing some credit to the team who had beaten them by 15points? Also like to add can we get a Kerry pundit that doesnt mention Kerry every 5seconds , between three O'Se brothers, Gooch, Cinneide, Galvin and of course last but not least Spillane. They could be reviewing a game between Carlow and Leitrim and they could still manage to fit Kerry football into it 20 times. They havent won an all ireland in whats coming up to 4 years, Dublin should be the team theyre talking about nowadasy and Tyrone were the team they couldnt beat in the noughties. Need to get new blood to review games and stop talking about their own counties/agendas. End of Sunday game rant."
Candlewax, I agree with you 100%...Brolly is an embarrassment at this stage.totally contradiction time after time...Kerry pundits the usual cute hoorism out of them..The one RTE pundit I have most respect for is Ciaran Whelan who usually calls it correct and is not on a "Dublin" agenda like some of his Kerry panellists when they speak on Kerry..
I'd love to see Bernard Flynn on the Sunday Game..I really enjoy his analysis on the radio...

HeadButter (Monaghan) - Posts: 280 - 26/07/2017 00:50:41    2023602

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Joe would lick himself to death if he were ice cream. Not content with a spot on the Sunday Game panel and a national newspaper column, but he makes sure to position himself at the centre of every controversy just in case we forget he's there. You just couldn't take him seriously anymore. I love the line about him that if you only won one all Ireland in Kerry you wouldn't be allowed write in the parish newsletter!

kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 26/07/2017 02:26:59    2023614

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Brolly plays to his perceived gallery. While he has the knowledge it is now buried deep within his tendency to try to make headlines and sound bites. But in fairness to him it's a legacy of his day job.
As for the Kerry bias, it's no different to the other big counties.
The past few years has seen Dublin, Kerry and Mayo pundits dominate the news because their counties have dominated the championship. They all have a bias for their own county. It'll be a a cold day in hell before we see a Sunday game panel made of Leitrim, Carlow and Wicklow men

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1105 - 26/07/2017 05:36:17    2023615

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I don't watch a lot of the football coverage but it seems that when pundits are from so called weaker counties that they can often make a lot of sense?

e.g. Eamon O'Hara & Dessie Dolan?

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 26/07/2017 08:50:16    2023638

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Replying To HeadButter:  "Candlewax, I agree with you 100%...Brolly is an embarrassment at this stage.totally contradiction time after time...Kerry pundits the usual cute hoorism out of them..The one RTE pundit I have most respect for is Ciaran Whelan who usually calls it correct and is not on a "Dublin" agenda like some of his Kerry panellists when they speak on Kerry..
I'd love to see Bernard Flynn on the Sunday Game..I really enjoy his analysis on the radio..."
I really like Whelan. He actually tries to discuss what's actually happening in the game. One thing though is he allows himself to get cut off too easily by Joe/Spillane when they want a rant.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4209 - 26/07/2017 11:33:35    2023756

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Replying To Whammo86:  "I really like Whelan. He actually tries to discuss what's actually happening in the game. One thing though is he allows himself to get cut off too easily by Joe/Spillane when they want a rant."
Whelan is not as good as you suggest - he is the self proclaimed highlighter of all that is wrong with the game unless of course it's the Dubs and then he goes blind esp when it comes to the Northern counties - quite boring also!

IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 26/07/2017 11:46:31    2023766

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Replying To TheHermit:  "Well when Galway get 37 All-Ireland's maybe people will talk about them more, ditto Dublin, Tyrone and whoever else."
TheHermit ye are not beating Dublin or Tyrone in too many A.I. finals recently! A little respect would not go astray.

lowballplease (Galway) - Posts: 935 - 26/07/2017 11:52:44    2023770

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Yeah how about Flynn and Whelan for a change.

dead_as_dodos (Carlow) - Posts: 459 - 26/07/2017 12:04:16    2023779

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Replying To TheHermit:  "Well when Galway get 37 All-Ireland's maybe people will talk about them more, ditto Dublin, Tyrone and whoever else."
But in discussions on the Ulster championship you don't have Cavan pundits talking endless drivel about themselves even though they have more titles than the rest?

Greenfield (Meath) - Posts: 522 - 26/07/2017 12:26:00    2023794

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Sounds like a jealous Galway man Up The Kingdom

wfkerry (USA) - Posts: 933 - 26/07/2017 12:27:51    2023795

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Replying To lowballplease:  "TheHermit ye are not beating Dublin or Tyrone in too many A.I. finals recently! A little respect would not go astray."
Listen, everyone in Kerry has respect for what Tyrone achieved a decade ago, and they respect the All-Ireland's Dublin have won in the last few years, we always respect those that have taken us on and beaten us.

But Dublin/Tyrone have/had once in a generation teams that managed to capture 3-4 All Irelands.

Kerry is a county that has consistently won All-Ireland's for over a century.

That's the difference and that's why Kerry pundits will always have a big presence in the Irish sports media.

There's obviously just a lot more respect for the Kingdom in the greater Irish sporting community than is ever displayed in this little bubble of a website.

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 26/07/2017 12:39:57    2023806

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This has always been an issue since way back in 03 when Spillane uttered the word "Puke football" It was always great to be the ones that fumed Spilline during the naughties. But lets call a spade a spade here, RTE when them two come into account talk complete waffle and Talk counties up while thrashing others and not give other teams the credit they deserve. It feels like they have personal vendetta's against some counties.

I am enjoying the younger breed of pundits coming through like the gooch, O'Se, Whealan, Dessie Dolan. I think they have a better grasp on the way recent football is and it is about time the pensioners past the torch on.

Find_the_space (Tyrone) - Posts: 313 - 26/07/2017 12:44:01    2023808

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I actually like the BBC "championship" commentators and pundits. They are all knowledgeable about the players and teams and don't seem to have an agenda. they respect all the teams whether they win or lose. The likes of the Sunday Game pannelists seem to get offended by teams that lose. Why ? every game has a winner and a loser. A team might win by 1 point and yet their analysis would consist of lauding the victor and demonising the vanquished when in truth there was little to separate the teams (sometimes the width of a post). I like Oisin McConville,Paddy Bradley, Marty Clarke,Dick Clerkin, Sean Cavanagh, Benny Tierney as pundits . (Martin McHugh can annoy sometimes as he does seem to be inflicted with the RTE virus and he has too many words for his mouth to deliver). Of the pundits on RTE . I turn off or down Brolly (I deliberately have not listened to a single word he has said this year as he makes me want to trash the TV. Spillane is barely tolerable. and O' Rourke doesn't do much research and his knowledge of the modern game is poor. Whelan and Dolan are OK and there have been a few others from time to time that were OK. Speaking of Eamonn O' Hara, I remember his rant about Kevin Walsh when he was in charge of Sligo, It was totally over the top and obviously he was upset at Sligo losing but he basically trashed Kevin Walsh and Walsh was removed from his duties shortly after. Jim McGuinness,Peter Canavan and James Horan are OK on Sky from what I have seen of them. I'm afraid the RTE pundits have had their day.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 26/07/2017 12:44:05    2023809

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Replying To HeadButter:  "Candlewax, I agree with you 100%...Brolly is an embarrassment at this stage.totally contradiction time after time...Kerry pundits the usual cute hoorism out of them..The one RTE pundit I have most respect for is Ciaran Whelan who usually calls it correct and is not on a "Dublin" agenda like some of his Kerry panellists when they speak on Kerry..
I'd love to see Bernard Flynn on the Sunday Game..I really enjoy his analysis on the radio..."
Headbutter, you must have forgot about last years all ireland when whelan went after lee keegan all he wanted to talk about with his marking off dermo basically begging for the ref to go after him which started the dublin witch hunt all week in the media, i personally find him v boring to listen to. You should have nobody covering games regarding there own counties they have all a agenda when its there own.

Yourjoking (USA) - Posts: 704 - 26/07/2017 12:57:01    2023818

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Yes agree with a few of ye regarding Whelan, very insightful and actually talks about modern football, also enjoy Jim McG, Canavan and was a fan of Eamonn O Hara before he left. Doesnt seem to be any pundit from Connaught on the Sunday game anymore , I know Kevin McStay was there for a few years and O'Hara but even the Connaught final was covered by Spillane and Dolan, Think they're should be a Connaught representative, obviously as long as hes not from Mayo :)

candlewax (Galway) - Posts: 282 - 26/07/2017 14:06:52    2023877

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Sunday Game, Brolly said "they will be murdered by Kerry, O Shea "they will".

Put this on the Galway dressing room wall. Brolly hates Galway/Mannion 01 etc

maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1196 - 26/07/2017 14:22:04    2023895

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