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Dubs and Tyrone V 1/4 opponents in Double Header?

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As things stand, Dubs V Monaghan/Down is on in Croker same day as Tyrone V Armagh/Kildare

So, say its Dubs V Monaghan and Tyrone V Kildare, surely that cant be a double header??
Sunday is not an option as the hurling is scheduled for that day in Croker, might we see a move to Monday like previous years for the Dubs game?

Considering there was 67000 at the Dubs kildare as a stand alone game, no way they can have those two teams plus Tyrone and Monaghan/Down if thats how the results go

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 18/07/2017 11:58:58    2018557

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Replying To Liamwalkinstown:  "As things stand, Dubs V Monaghan/Down is on in Croker same day as Tyrone V Armagh/Kildare

So, say its Dubs V Monaghan and Tyrone V Kildare, surely that cant be a double header??
Sunday is not an option as the hurling is scheduled for that day in Croker, might we see a move to Monday like previous years for the Dubs game?

Considering there was 67000 at the Dubs kildare as a stand alone game, no way they can have those two teams plus Tyrone and Monaghan/Down if thats how the results go"
Doubt that the game not involving Dublin could be a stand alone game. It just wouldn't make sense to have it in croker.

I remember a few years ago Tyrone and Dublin played in a quarter final as a double header with Down and Kerry so it has been done before.

Also Tyrone/Down couldn't play on the Monday as it's not a bank holiday up here in nordie land.

Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 912 - 18/07/2017 12:20:03    2018571

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Last year seen Tyrone v Mayo and Dublin v Donegal. Unfortunately It'll be a double header unless dublin agree to play somewhere other than Croker lol

Find_the_space (Tyrone) - Posts: 313 - 18/07/2017 12:21:54    2018572

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Replying To Liamwalkinstown:  "As things stand, Dubs V Monaghan/Down is on in Croker same day as Tyrone V Armagh/Kildare

So, say its Dubs V Monaghan and Tyrone V Kildare, surely that cant be a double header??
Sunday is not an option as the hurling is scheduled for that day in Croker, might we see a move to Monday like previous years for the Dubs game?

Considering there was 67000 at the Dubs kildare as a stand alone game, no way they can have those two teams plus Tyrone and Monaghan/Down if thats how the results go"
Why couldn't they? Last year they played Tyrone Mayo and Dublin Donegal as a double header and it was slightly under capacity with tickets available up until the day of the game. Would the quarter finals you listed by any bigger than those last year? I'd say the stadium will sell out or very close to sell out for the games and that would be better than Tyrone Kildare in front of maybe 30000 on its own and maybe say 55000 at the Dublin game.

A Another (None) - Posts: 192 - 18/07/2017 12:31:01    2018581

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Replying To Liamwalkinstown:  "As things stand, Dubs V Monaghan/Down is on in Croker same day as Tyrone V Armagh/Kildare

So, say its Dubs V Monaghan and Tyrone V Kildare, surely that cant be a double header??
Sunday is not an option as the hurling is scheduled for that day in Croker, might we see a move to Monday like previous years for the Dubs game?

Considering there was 67000 at the Dubs kildare as a stand alone game, no way they can have those two teams plus Tyrone and Monaghan/Down if thats how the results go"
It has been done before as stated. 67000 turned up for the Leinster final. I would say a lot of the Dublin bandwagoners will wait until the semi/final and show up.(no offence to the Dubs, all counties have bandwagon support, just Dublin have a lot more because of population etc.)

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 18/07/2017 12:41:27    2018590

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ye are failing to grasp the enormity of support Kildare get when things are motoring lads.
Thats the difference. Kildare will bring HUGE support, more then Sunday if they get there

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 18/07/2017 12:47:10    2018594

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Replying To Liamwalkinstown:  "ye are failing to grasp the enormity of support Kildare get when things are motoring lads.
Thats the difference. Kildare will bring HUGE support, more then Sunday if they get there"
There was 32000 at the Ulster final. Easily 3 to 1 more Tyrone support. Say 20000 Tyrone supporters there. I'm not naive enough to think 20000 Tyrone supporters will travel to Croke park for a quarter final. Tyrone have good support. So do Kildare but each county will bring 12000 each roughly.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 18/07/2017 13:41:45    2018625

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in 2014 Dublin v Monaghan and Donegal v Armagh was a double header, all those teams bring a good support and there was no problem. Fair enough Liam if Kildare fans will want to travel in numbers for a 1/4 final but tough sh*t if they don't get a ticket they don't get a ticket, hopefully the fans who have been supporting them at games all year will get one

turkeyplucker (UK) - Posts: 137 - 18/07/2017 13:45:51    2018630

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Replying To turkeyplucker:  "in 2014 Dublin v Monaghan and Donegal v Armagh was a double header, all those teams bring a good support and there was no problem. Fair enough Liam if Kildare fans will want to travel in numbers for a 1/4 final but tough sh*t if they don't get a ticket they don't get a ticket, hopefully the fans who have been supporting them at games all year will get one"
Totally agree ..

If they don't get a ticket or any Dublin/Tyrone/whoever band wagoner doesn't get a ticket ... Tough shit.

Demand may outweigh supply but so what ?? A stadium can only hold x amount of people .. Be it Croker, the nou camp or tolka park.. There seems to be this obsession that everyone absolutely it's be accommodated for.

These double header quarter finals have happened for years and are penciled in months and months in advance so moving it now won't happen.

Doesn't matter who is involved I don't envisage a scenario where It'll fully sell out but if it does and people who don't have season tickets/are unlucky not to get a ticket through club/general sale...... Tough

Barcelona can't accommodate all their fans... Boston Red Sox can't, and in big games at the biggest venue sometimes gaa hq can't. That's that

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 18/07/2017 14:28:01    2018671

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Replying To Wally:  "Doubt that the game not involving Dublin could be a stand alone game. It just wouldn't make sense to have it in croker.

I remember a few years ago Tyrone and Dublin played in a quarter final as a double header with Down and Kerry so it has been done before.

Also Tyrone/Down couldn't play on the Monday as it's not a bank holiday up here in nordie land."
Yep on a Saturday, back in 2010? The beginning of the current success really as was the first big win for this Dublin team.

Different circumstances now though. Bigger interest in Dublin and as of course Kildare would get a very good following if they got there. Back in 2010, I don't remember too many Kerry fans turning up. A good few from Down right enough.

poguemahone (Dublin) - Posts: 365 - 18/07/2017 14:28:27    2018672

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Jaysus when I think of it, we get some tough QFs

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8584 - 18/07/2017 15:51:54    2018744

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Well Armagh better just not turn up then against Kildare since you have the semi-final pairings done and the tickets printed. If Armagh happen to beat Kildare, they'd fill Croker with Tyrone on their own. Tyrone and Armagh are probably (outside of Dublin) the biggest travelling supporters. Would love that semi-final - dare to dream eh!

DooReg (Armagh) - Posts: 33 - 19/07/2017 16:44:09    2019402

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Replying To Liamwalkinstown:  "As things stand, Dubs V Monaghan/Down is on in Croker same day as Tyrone V Armagh/Kildare

So, say its Dubs V Monaghan and Tyrone V Kildare, surely that cant be a double header??
Sunday is not an option as the hurling is scheduled for that day in Croker, might we see a move to Monday like previous years for the Dubs game?

Considering there was 67000 at the Dubs kildare as a stand alone game, no way they can have those two teams plus Tyrone and Monaghan/Down if thats how the results go"
So ur saying if Monaghan beats down they play Dublin even if Armagh beats Kildare

Cuppa (Monaghan) - Posts: 159 - 19/07/2017 21:15:48    2019571

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So if Monaghan beats down they are playing dublin even if Armagh wins???

Cuppa (Monaghan) - Posts: 159 - 19/07/2017 21:29:55    2019585

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Replying To Cuppa:  "So if Monaghan beats down they are playing dublin even if Armagh wins???"
If Monaghan and Armagh win it will be a draw.

If Kildare win then Monaghan/Down must play Dublin.

If Down win then they must play Dublin and Kildare/Armagh play Tyrone.

the_walls (Mayo) - Posts: 495 - 20/07/2017 09:13:29    2019754

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1 thing people seem to forget in regards to supporters and venues, Dublin, Mayo, Tyrone and Donegal have a large number of supporters with croke park season tickets or county board season tickets and that's leaving out the supporters who buy tickets from clubs or online and shops, then you have teams with large footballing or hurling supporters like Kildare, Meath, Wexford, Galway etc especially when the team is successful so double headers may cause a problem

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 20/07/2017 10:41:54    2019816

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Every county outside munster are going to bring big support if the get to a quarter final. Clearly the bigger a counties population the more people the can bring.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 20/07/2017 13:13:51    2019935

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