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I see where Tipp have refused a request by Westmeath to play this in Mullingar. Very disappointed in Tipp...Kilkenny have been far more gracious in previous years.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 28/06/2017 13:13:43    2006801

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Replying To keeper7:  "I see where Tipp have refused a request by Westmeath to play this in Mullingar. Very disappointed in Tipp...Kilkenny have been far more gracious in previous years."
It's not cheap running two teams Keeper. Kilkenny don't have that concern.

If the game was in Mullingar we wouldn't requesting they switch it to Thurles.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 28/06/2017 13:22:30    2006809

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Replying To keeper7:  "I see where Tipp have refused a request by Westmeath to play this in Mullingar. Very disappointed in Tipp...Kilkenny have been far more gracious in previous years."
I'd expect more from Westmeath County Board than to bring this up. If Tipp win this game, which without sounding cocky they should, then why would they want some of their players facing a 5 hour round trip a week before a possibly game against KK?
I'm sure the Westmeath players would rather the trip to Thurles anyway.
A non story.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 28/06/2017 13:25:47    2006811

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Its bad form...would have been a great occasion for hurling in westmeath if the all ireland champs came to mullingar and got a full house.

preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 734 - 28/06/2017 13:31:18    2006815

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Why should Tipp switch it.

derfil1 (Kildare) - Posts: 1612 - 28/06/2017 14:11:17    2006861

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It's poor form from Tipp, Kilkenny have accepted such a request before. It would do a great deal for hurling in Westmeath and the surrounding midlands counties

Darragh (Westmeath) - Posts: 301 - 28/06/2017 14:12:49    2006863

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This will be up there with some of the greatest beatings dished out over the past 20 years. It will be over after 20 minutes. They could play it in the middle of Iran and there would still be only one outcome Tipperary by 20-23 points

hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1660 - 28/06/2017 14:32:05    2006891

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Lot of us Tipp fans were certain game would be in Mullingar after draw was made. I was planning a weekend away and everything now I'm only flipping 30 mins from Thurles!!

Thought our CB would have offered rather than have to be asked. I made this point right after the draw in another thread that the game should be played up there.

Un-Reserved seating in Thurles on Saturday so they are expecting a small crowd where if it was in Mullinagar the pitch is on top of the crowd and id say there would be a cracker of an atmosphere.

I'm dissapointed to say the least given we should win anyway and whether travel or whatever time up there is about 2 hours for most of us in Tipp its about the same if we were drawn to play Dublin or Cork for example.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 28/06/2017 14:42:31    2006902

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Im from Westmeath but you can't have it every way. The smaller counties complain about being treated differently from the big guns then they want special treatment. They were drawn away,tough luck. The Westmeath chairman is letting himself down making this public. By all means chance your arm in private if you really want to but don't make Tipp look like bad guys because they are only claiming what they are entitled to. Take it as a sign of respect. You are being treated as an equal not a special case.

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1014 - 28/06/2017 14:54:48    2006916

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Replying To hurlorhurley:  "This will be up there with some of the greatest beatings dished out over the past 20 years. It will be over after 20 minutes. They could play it in the middle of Iran and there would still be only one outcome Tipperary by 20-23 points"
Ah that wouldn't be up there with a proper batin.
Now the Offaly batin was a proper batin.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 28/06/2017 15:00:25    2006919

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Replying To tiobraid:  "I'd expect more from Westmeath County Board than to bring this up. If Tipp win this game, which without sounding cocky they should, then why would they want some of their players facing a 5 hour round trip a week before a possibly game against KK?
I'm sure the Westmeath players would rather the trip to Thurles anyway.
A non story."
In the same vain, if Antrim win the Ulster u21 and reach a semi final or if any of our colleges in Antrim get to the college final it is played in Thurles a 10 hour round trip. Big deal if Tipp have to travel a few yards up the road to promote hurling in Westmeath.

Brian_Coyote (Antrim) - Posts: 346 - 28/06/2017 15:16:45    2006930

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Should read Derry not Offaly.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 28/06/2017 15:19:51    2006932

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Replying To Jack_Sparrow:  "Im from Westmeath but you can't have it every way. The smaller counties complain about being treated differently from the big guns then they want special treatment. They were drawn away,tough luck. The Westmeath chairman is letting himself down making this public. By all means chance your arm in private if you really want to but don't make Tipp look like bad guys because they are only claiming what they are entitled to. Take it as a sign of respect. You are being treated as an equal not a special case."
Thanks Jack, glad to see some common sense.

I don't think it's fair on Westmeath either that this is the only talking point heading into the game on Saturday.

Here are my thoughts on the actual game itself for what it's worth.

If the Westmeath goalkeeper plays like he did against Offaly he won't have fond memories of his trip to Tipp. He really panicked towards the end when Offaly came at Westmeath with a late surge.

Killian Doyle was very good against Offaly. It will be interesting to see how he fares against the Tipp backs.

It's a lose, lose, lose from a Tipp point of view cos if Westmeath pull off a shock we are out, if we have an unconvincing win we are still in crisis, if we hammer them we are heartless bullies.

Look, we got home advantage fair and square in the draw. With both our teams doing so well last year and both still in the championship we have plenty of bills to pay. We won't be staging the all-Ireland quarter finals this year so we are already down on that revenue compared with last year.

Here's to a good and fair game of hurling between the two teams.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 28/06/2017 15:49:13    2006957

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Replying To Brian_Coyote:  "In the same vain, if Antrim win the Ulster u21 and reach a semi final or if any of our colleges in Antrim get to the college final it is played in Thurles a 10 hour round trip. Big deal if Tipp have to travel a few yards up the road to promote hurling in Westmeath."
That's the GAA's decision to have those games in Thurles, nothing to do with the Tipperary County board.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 28/06/2017 15:50:39    2006959

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Replying To hurlorhurley:  "This will be up there with some of the greatest beatings dished out over the past 20 years. It will be over after 20 minutes. They could play it in the middle of Iran and there would still be only one outcome Tipperary by 20-23 points"
Hopefully not, we got enough bad press after the 2011 and 2016 Munster Finals.

Westmeath are an incredibly hard working team and Michael Ryan is a shrewd manager. He will have a good game plan in place. He will love playing Tipp too.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 28/06/2017 15:54:26    2006962

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Replying To hurlorhurley:  "This will be up there with some of the greatest beatings dished out over the past 20 years. It will be over after 20 minutes. They could play it in the middle of Iran and there would still be only one outcome Tipperary by 20-23 points"
No one is disputing that Tipp will win, merely the fact the occasion would mean more to the people of Westmeath seeing the All Ireland champions in Mullingar. No one in Thurles is getting excited about the Westmeath hurlers arriving in town.

dakid (Australia) - Posts: 284 - 28/06/2017 16:06:14    2006971

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Replying To tiobraid:  "I'd expect more from Westmeath County Board than to bring this up. If Tipp win this game, which without sounding cocky they should, then why would they want some of their players facing a 5 hour round trip a week before a possibly game against KK?
I'm sure the Westmeath players would rather the trip to Thurles anyway.
A non story."
I agree Tipp are entitled to keep the match on home soil but as for your point about a 5 hour round trip A WEEK before the prospective game with KK, you must surely be on a wind up with that one. Not exactly jetlag is it?

MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts: 2324 - 28/06/2017 16:33:13    2006987

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Anyone who was at the Kilkenny, Galway, Limerick or Waterford games held in Mullingar over the last few years will attest to them being novel occasions. It's the same debate as bringing the Dubs out of Croke Park for the Leinster championship. Tipperary would've garnered a lot of goodwill with a gesture such as this.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 28/06/2017 17:01:29    2007001

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Replying To keeper7:  "Anyone who was at the Kilkenny, Galway, Limerick or Waterford games held in Mullingar over the last few years will attest to them being novel occasions. It's the same debate as bringing the Dubs out of Croke Park for the Leinster championship. Tipperary would've garnered a lot of goodwill with a gesture such as this."
Goodwill is a myth a lot of the time when it comes to the GAA.
Maybe in small amount of cases but in general it's all about mé féin at this level.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 28/06/2017 17:18:19    2007011

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "Thanks Jack, glad to see some common sense.

I don't think it's fair on Westmeath either that this is the only talking point heading into the game on Saturday.

Here are my thoughts on the actual game itself for what it's worth.

If the Westmeath goalkeeper plays like he did against Offaly he won't have fond memories of his trip to Tipp. He really panicked towards the end when Offaly came at Westmeath with a late surge.

Killian Doyle was very good against Offaly. It will be interesting to see how he fares against the Tipp backs.

It's a lose, lose, lose from a Tipp point of view cos if Westmeath pull off a shock we are out, if we have an unconvincing win we are still in crisis, if we hammer them we are heartless bullies.

Look, we got home advantage fair and square in the draw. With both our teams doing so well last year and both still in the championship we have plenty of bills to pay. We won't be staging the all-Ireland quarter finals this year so we are already down on that revenue compared with last year.

Here's to a good and fair game of hurling between the two teams."
It can't all be about the almighty Euro and how much Tipp bring in from gate receipts. I understand the Tipperary right to host the game as the first team drawn out but having the game in Mullingar would have been better for hurling in the Midlands. Surely it is beholden on one of the most successful counties and current all Ireland champions with a team of greats to also look to promote the game in a weaker county. Then again maybe ye are still sore over losing a pair of League games in the 80s to us............doubtful as it is!!!

Darragh (Westmeath) - Posts: 301 - 28/06/2017 17:53:30    2007030

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