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I'm sure we are all aware the Liam McCarthy starts todays and so does the championship (although none of these sides will be contesting finals unfortunately). Its a bit of a joke TBH that we are unable to see these matches on the telly or at least on the GAA websites. Obviously Galway and Tipp will be the headline game today and rightly so, but there should be the option to stream the games for others. An example yesterday was the Antrim V Carlow Christy Ring game, it seemed to be a proper ding dong battle and who has video footage of it? took extra time to separate the two sides. Its not fair that these games arent promoted enough, they give as much time to training as the other counties why not show off their talents?

butterfly (Meath) - Posts: 112 - 23/04/2017 12:58:34    1981853

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Replying To butterfly:  "I'm sure we are all aware the Liam McCarthy starts todays and so does the championship (although none of these sides will be contesting finals unfortunately). Its a bit of a joke TBH that we are unable to see these matches on the telly or at least on the GAA websites. Obviously Galway and Tipp will be the headline game today and rightly so, but there should be the option to stream the games for others. An example yesterday was the Antrim V Carlow Christy Ring game, it seemed to be a proper ding dong battle and who has video footage of it? took extra time to separate the two sides. Its not fair that these games arent promoted enough, they give as much time to training as the other counties why not show off their talents?"
Christy Ring Cup round 1
Wicklow v London, Arklow, 1pm, yes indeed, and Its also not fair that these games arent even given a mention on match tracker live, or a half time score even,they give as much time to training as the other counties why not reflect that in an appropriate comment.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2907 - 23/04/2017 13:53:39    1981856

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Does anyone know if any media outlets have broadcasting rights for the Ring/Rackard/Meaghar cups? Its a shame there's so little coverage, even a 1camera internet stream would be a start!

extranjero (Wexford) - Posts: 375 - 23/04/2017 14:23:18    1981860

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The Leinster round robin like the Ulster SHC and the Ring/Rackard/Meagher cups are an afterthought to the GAA. Unimportant competitions to be played off early in the season before the 'real action' starts. Even today the league finals are given much more attention. This will never change, for the majority of people hurling only exists in the part of Ireland which lies south of a line between Dublin and Galway.

M Lyster (Antrim) - Posts: 461 - 23/04/2017 15:24:50    1981872

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Replying To M Lyster:  "The Leinster round robin like the Ulster SHC and the Ring/Rackard/Meagher cups are an afterthought to the GAA. Unimportant competitions to be played off early in the season before the 'real action' starts. Even today the league finals are given much more attention. This will never change, for the majority of people hurling only exists in the part of Ireland which lies south of a line between Dublin and Galway."
To be fair, the top 2 teams from the Leinster round robin go on to the Leinster quarter-finals, which start at the end of May. How could the round robin be played any later in the season?

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 23/04/2017 16:14:48    1981882

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Great win for Meath today, fair play and well done to all concerned, getting a win in the first game is always important and this Meath team have great momentum behind them after a 100% record in the league, hope for more of the same against Laois next.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 23/04/2017 17:43:56    1981912

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Great win by Meath you can't beat momentum!! Kerry need to seriously look at themselves.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 23/04/2017 17:51:26    1981914

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Good to see Meath back in Leinster. That's a big result for them today.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 23/04/2017 18:46:27    1981932

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Great win for Meath today massive progress being made but I really can't understand why Kerry play in Leinster and not Munster surely Kildare should have that spot Galway play in Leinster as there's no Connacht but no excuse for leaving Leinster counties out to facilitate Kerry

runnerin (Meath) - Posts: 202 - 23/04/2017 23:07:45    1982023

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Replying To runnerin:  "Great win for Meath today massive progress being made but I really can't understand why Kerry play in Leinster and not Munster surely Kildare should have that spot Galway play in Leinster as there's no Connacht but no excuse for leaving Leinster counties out to facilitate Kerry"
Well the round robin is to facilitate weaker counties. I see your point about Kildare but Kerry were being trounced in Munster every year. There's very few counties who make real effort at Hurling so we should help people like those in Kerry who are sailing against the tide.

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1014 - 24/04/2017 08:52:48    1982077

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Great seeing Meath get an early win. They looked in control and professional for most of the game and didn't let the early sucker punch deflate them. Shame it wasn't closed out better. Kerry could of gotten 2 injury time goals.

RoyalBadger (Meath) - Posts: 571 - 24/04/2017 08:57:01    1982081

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Replying To Jack_Sparrow:  "Well the round robin is to facilitate weaker counties. I see your point about Kildare but Kerry were being trounced in Munster every year. There's very few counties who make real effort at Hurling so we should help people like those in Kerry who are sailing against the tide."
The only problem I have with the Leinster round robin is it's unfair when compared to the sacred Munster championship. A Munster county could lose all its Munster championship games for the next ten years and still be safe in the Liam McCarthy Cup. If a Leinster county loses all its Leinster championship games for the next ten years they will end up in the round robin and eventually relegated to the Christy Ring Cup. Why should Munster counties only be protected from relegation to the Christy Ring Cup?

M Lyster (Antrim) - Posts: 461 - 24/04/2017 17:14:59    1982290

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Replying To M Lyster:  "The only problem I have with the Leinster round robin is it's unfair when compared to the sacred Munster championship. A Munster county could lose all its Munster championship games for the next ten years and still be safe in the Liam McCarthy Cup. If a Leinster county loses all its Leinster championship games for the next ten years they will end up in the round robin and eventually relegated to the Christy Ring Cup. Why should Munster counties only be protected from relegation to the Christy Ring Cup?"
Fair point

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1014 - 24/04/2017 18:14:04    1982311

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Replying To M Lyster:  "The only problem I have with the Leinster round robin is it's unfair when compared to the sacred Munster championship. A Munster county could lose all its Munster championship games for the next ten years and still be safe in the Liam McCarthy Cup. If a Leinster county loses all its Leinster championship games for the next ten years they will end up in the round robin and eventually relegated to the Christy Ring Cup. Why should Munster counties only be protected from relegation to the Christy Ring Cup?"
Because that doesn't happen in the Munster C'ship. If a team was continuously getting hammered as Kerry used to be then Im sure there would be some change. Every Team in Munster has either won or competed in a Munster or AI final over the last 10 years.

ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 693 - 24/04/2017 19:49:13    1982336

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Do the winners of the round robin get to enter the qualifiers if they lost their quarter final matches? If so, could be a nice extra game for them against quality opposition.

liam500 (Wicklow) - Posts: 175 - 25/04/2017 11:10:59    1982477

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Interesting final day ahead. Laois are qualified but Meath, Kerry and Westmeath can all qualify or be relegated.

RoyalBadger (Meath) - Posts: 571 - 02/05/2017 09:49:34    1983890

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Replying To RoyalBadger:  "Interesting final day ahead. Laois are qualified but Meath, Kerry and Westmeath can all qualify or be relegated."
Laois probably have qualified but it's not absolutely certain. See link
It's notable that Westmeath could well qualify having lost two matches (if they beat Meath and Laois beat Kerry). Wait for the outcry when the same thing most likely happens in one of the future Super 8 groups.

CeachtPeile (Cavan) - Posts: 96 - 02/05/2017 11:09:07    1983908

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Replying To RoyalBadger:  "Interesting final day ahead. Laois are qualified but Meath, Kerry and Westmeath can all qualify or be relegated."
Are Laois 100% qualified though? A big win for Kerry in the final game coupled with a big an even bigger win for Meath would leave Laois 3rd on score difference if I'm not mistaken?
It's incredibly unlikely to happen, but it will hopefully stop Laois from playing all of their reserves in the final game.

Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1362 - 02/05/2017 11:37:15    1983919

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Replying To CeachtPeile:  "Laois probably have qualified but it's not absolutely certain. See link
It's notable that Westmeath could well qualify having lost two matches (if they beat Meath and Laois beat Kerry). Wait for the outcry when the same thing most likely happens in one of the future Super 8 groups."
And it's happened exactly like that! Westmeath qualify for the quarter finals having lost two matches and gained 2 points and Meath are relegated with the same number of points but a worse score difference. It didn't exactly garner much attention - there was no score tracker for these matches and the league table is hardly published anywhere. Similarly, it's hard to find the Lory Meagher league table anywhere - not a sign of it on this site. I can't imagine that the group tables for next year's football Super 8 won't be published and the permutations analysed.

A sign of how lower tier competitions are treated and a warning of what will happen if there ever is a football equivalent.

CeachtPeile (Cavan) - Posts: 96 - 14/05/2017 20:28:05    1986643

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Kerry and Meath are now finished for the year before most teams start.

Tough on Meath to be relegated having done so well at the higher level

carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 14/05/2017 20:37:06    1986644

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